Hillary Ordered Classified Marks to be Removed & Sent Unsecure

[LoneLaugher]

This is awesome.

I expect whoever the GOP nominee is to make Benghazi a major part of his ( yeah....Fiorina is not a possibility ) campaign. It's a winner!

 

[Care4all]

Um, actually she DOES say in the e-mail to strip the classification and sent the info via UNclassified method. It spells it out - there is NO way to twist her words to mean otherwise.

I understand why libs are still trying to do so, though....this is 'damning' - her ticket to 'cell block D'!

Here is what the right wing Headings to their articles say:

Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

But when you read her comment, no where does she say the words "Strip Classified Marking"

In response to Aide saying "They've said they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it."

She said to her Aide about the talking points memo that she needed, "If they can't, turn in to non paper, with no identifying heading, and send non secure"

She did NOT SAY

STRIP IT OF ITS CLASSIFIED MARKINGS

as the media is plastering everywhere and in their Headings of all of their articles as I have shown above with just one link.

They, the media, has MADE THIS UP.....

Also,

HEADING means TITLE

It could be, the rules are, when you send a fax, no matter what it is about, it runs on a secure fax system, that was simply DOWN.

No TOP SECRET information goes over Fax, no TOP SECRET info goes on the dot GOV system either....there is a separate government server for TOP SECRET info that is only available to use for people with TOP SECRET clearance and it is in a government Office and NEVER goes through the internet or secure fax, it stays within the govt building....

So, the media has taken her words of ''remove the Heading'', which is Title and CHANGED THIS to "Strip the Classification Marking"

She NEVER SAID THAT.... the media is making this in to something, it is sensationalizing this, using words she never said....and that is simply wrong, and unethical reporting.

In addition to this, what Hillary needed from her Aide that she had waited hours for....was a TALKING POINTS memo, and talking points memos are memos with talking points on a subject that have been UNCLASSIFIED, and able to release to the Public.... so how could anyone in the media know that this talking points memo was even classified top secret or secret or even sensitive but unclassified, SBU? They DON'T know. This is why I call bull crap!

And on another note:

The dot gov email system is the government's unclassified email system, so even if Hillary had used the .gov email system, it was an UNCLASSIFIED system and TOP SECRET is not put on it.....

emails on the .gov system are classified, after the fact, just like with Hillary's emails....there would be no difference in the "classified email count" on the release of her emails from her server than there would be if she was using the Unclassified .gov system server...there would still be over a thousand emails classified in some way, AFTER THE FACT, and before an FOIA release.

 

[Vigilante]

Um, actually she DOES say in the e-mail to strip the classification and sent the info via UNclassified method. It spells it out - there is NO way to twist her words to mean otherwise.

I understand why libs are still trying to do so, though....this is 'damning' - her ticket to 'cell block D'!

Here is what the right wing Headings to their articles say:

Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

But when you read her comment, no where does she say the words "Strip Classified Marking"

In response to Aide saying "They've said they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it."

She said to her Aide about the talking points memo that she needed, "If they can't, turn in to non paper, with no identifying heading, and send non secure"

She did NOT SAY

STRIP IT OF ITS CLASSIFIED MARKINGS

as the media is plastering everywhere and in their Headings of all of their articles as I have shown above with just one link.

They, the media, has MADE THIS UP.....

Also,

HEADING means TITLE

It could be, the rules are, when you send a fax, no matter what it is about, it runs on a secure fax system, that was simply DOWN.

No TOP SECRET information goes over Fax, no TOP SECRET info goes on the dot GOV system either....there is a separate government server for TOP SECRET info that is only available to use for people with TOP SECRET clearance and it is in a government Office and NEVER goes through the internet or secure fax, it stays within the govt building....

So, the media has taken her words of ''remove the Heading'', which is Title and CHANGED THIS to "Strip the Classification Marking"

She NEVER SAID THAT.... the media is making this in to something, it is sensationalizing this, using words she never said....and that is simply wrong, and unethical reporting.

In addition to this, what Hillary needed from her Aide that she had waited hours for....was a TALKING POINTS memo, and talking points memos are memos with talking points on a subject that has been UNCLASSIFIED, and able to release to the Public.... so how could anyone in the media know that this talking points memo was even classified top secret or secret or even sensitive but unclassified, SBU? They DON'T know.

And on another note:

The dot gov email system is the government's unclassified email system, so even if Hillary had used the .gov email system, it was an UNCLASSIFIED system and TOP SECRET is not put on it.....

emails on the .gov system are classified, after the fact, just like with Hillary's emails....there would be no difference in the "classified email count" on the release of her emails from her server than there would be if she was using the Unclassified .gov system server...there would still be over a thousand emails classified in some way, AFTER THE FACT, and before an FOIA release.

Have you ever heard of the word IMPLIED?

Dozens of Hillary Clinton Emails Were 'Born Classified ...
www.newsweek.com/questions-raised-over-declassification-dates-hillary-...
Aug 21, 2015 - Clinton has repeatedly said she did not handle information on her ... said she did not send or receive classified information on her unsecured, ...

 

[Jackson]

Apparently not if your name was Clinton.

Massive pardons are just around the corner...

AFTER the election, I hope.

 

[Jackson]

Um, actually she DOES say in the e-mail to strip the classification and sent the info via UNclassified method. It spells it out - there is NO way to twist her words to mean otherwise.

I understand why libs are still trying to do so, though....this is 'damning' - her ticket to 'cell block D'!

Here is what the right wing Headings to their articles say:

Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

But when you read her comment, no where does she say the words "Strip Classified Marking"

In response to Aide saying "They've said they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it."

She said to her Aide about the talking points memo that she needed, "If they can't, turn in to non paper, with no identifying heading, and send non secure"

She did NOT SAY

STRIP IT OF ITS CLASSIFIED MARKINGS

as the media is plastering everywhere and in their Headings of all of their articles as I have shown above with just one link.

They, the media, has MADE THIS UP.....

Also,

HEADING means TITLE

It could be, the rules are, when you send a fax, no matter what it is about, it runs on a secure fax system, that was simply DOWN.

No TOP SECRET information goes over Fax, no TOP SECRET info goes on the dot GOV system either....there is a separate government server for TOP SECRET info that is only available to use for people with TOP SECRET clearance and it is in a government Office and NEVER goes through the internet or secure fax, it stays within the govt building....

So, the media has taken her words of ''remove the Heading'', which is Title and CHANGED THIS to "Strip the Classification Marking"

She NEVER SAID THAT.... the media is making this in to something, it is sensationalizing this, using words she never said....and that is simply wrong, and unethical reporting.

In addition to this, what Hillary needed from her Aide that she had waited hours for....was a TALKING POINTS memo, and talking points memos are memos with talking points on a subject that have been UNCLASSIFIED, and able to release to the Public.... so how could anyone in the media know that this talking points memo was even classified top secret or secret or even sensitive but unclassified, SBU? They DON'T know. This is why I call bull crap!

And on another note:

The dot gov email system is the government's unclassified email system, so even if Hillary had used the .gov email system, it was an UNCLASSIFIED system and TOP SECRET is not put on it.....

emails on the .gov system are classified, after the fact, just like with Hillary's emails....there would be no difference in the "classified email count" on the release of her emails from her server than there would be if she was using the Unclassified .gov system server...there would still be over a thousand emails classified in some way, AFTER THE FACT, and before an FOIA release.

It's obvious just what kind of fantasy land you want to imagine for Hillary.

She said to her Aide about the talking points memo that she needed, "If they can't, turn in to non paper, with no identifying heading, and send non secure"

"Turn into non paper with NO IDENTIFYING HEADING and SEND NON SECURE"
How low will you go, Care4 All?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Um, actually she DOES say in the e-mail to strip the classification and sent the info via UNclassified method. It spells it out - there is NO way to twist her words to mean otherwise.

I understand why libs are still trying to do so, though....this is 'damning' - her ticket to 'cell block D'!

Here is what the right wing Headings to their articles say:

Bombshell: In Newly-Released Email, Hillary Orders Aide to Strip Classified Marking

But when you read her comment, no where does she say the words "Strip Classified Marking"

In response to Aide saying "They've said they've had issues sending secure fax. They're working on it."

She said to her Aide about the talking points memo that she needed, "If they can't, turn in to non paper, with no identifying heading, and send non secure"

She did NOT SAY

STRIP IT OF ITS CLASSIFIED MARKINGS

as the media is plastering everywhere and in their Headings of all of their articles as I have shown above with just one link.

They, the media, has MADE THIS UP.....

Also,

HEADING means TITLE

It could be, the rules are, when you send a fax, no matter what it is about, it runs on a secure fax system, that was simply DOWN.

No TOP SECRET information goes over Fax, no TOP SECRET info goes on the dot GOV system either....there is a separate government server for TOP SECRET info that is only available to use for people with TOP SECRET clearance and it is in a government Office and NEVER goes through the internet or secure fax, it stays within the govt building....

So, the media has taken her words of ''remove the Heading'', which is Title and CHANGED THIS to "Strip the Classification Marking"

She NEVER SAID THAT.... the media is making this in to something, it is sensationalizing this, using words she never said....and that is simply wrong, and unethical reporting.

In addition to this, what Hillary needed from her Aide that she had waited hours for....was a TALKING POINTS memo, and talking points memos are memos with talking points on a subject that have been UNCLASSIFIED, and able to release to the Public.... so how could anyone in the media know that this talking points memo was even classified top secret or secret or even sensitive but unclassified, SBU? They DON'T know. This is why I call bull crap!

And on another note:

The dot gov email system is the government's unclassified email system, so even if Hillary had used the .gov email system, it was an UNCLASSIFIED system and TOP SECRET is not put on it.....

emails on the .gov system are classified, after the fact, just like with Hillary's emails....there would be no difference in the "classified email count" on the release of her emails from her server than there would be if she was using the Unclassified .gov system server...there would still be over a thousand emails classified in some way, AFTER THE FACT, and before an FOIA release.

What a good sheeple.
But everyone familiar with a secret clearance knows "make it a nonpaper" means put it in draft mode without a clearance marking.

You have the lamest of lame excuses for Felon Hillary.

 

[Care4all]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

 

[Care4all]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

 

[Weatherman2020]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

 

[The Rabbi]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

 

[skookerasbil]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Irrelevant s0n!!!. We'll let the FBI decide.........

Gotta say.........today, for the first time since this whole story broke, I think the wench may well go down.

One political note for the curious in this thread........invariably, the Hillary backers making posts in this thread are hard core progressives who are ok with people breaking laws as long as its their people breaking laws. But a lot of Democrats seeing this are going to be off the Hill bandwagon for good.......and thank God for that!!

In any case, can you just imagine what Trump can do with this in a debate??!!

 

[skookerasbil]

OK....ask me how hard Im laughing??

New poll = 20% of Dums set to vote for Trump

Trump Could Win It All

 

[LoneLaugher]

OK....ask me how hard Im laughing??

New poll = 20% of Dums set to vote for Trump

Trump Could Win It All

Gee whiz! If I didn't know better, I'd say that your primary interest in investigating Hillary Clinton's emails is the possibility that it will help your candidate win an election.

 

[LoneLaugher]

It does not say what the sensationalized headers are touting and without some true journalism, with research of what the talking points were, and whether the "talking points" were some how not really "talking points" at all....because talking points ARE UNCLASSIFIED Points on a subject to be given to the public.

I'm just sick and tired of the faux media not doing their jobs and reporting the facts and truth that they gathered through actually investigating instead of simply pushing the propaganda, sensationalized garbage.....and you all following this kind of thoughtless crap without thinking for yourselves.

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

I believe Nixon had motive. You ignored that question for some reason.

 

[The Rabbi]

1,340 emails SO FAR have contained classified information on her personal server. That's 1,340 more than she said existed. That's 1,340 felonies.

Her clearly ordering a subordinate to remove classification markings is just icing on the cake and another 10 years in prison.

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

I believe Nixon had motive. You ignored that question for some reason.

Motive is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she clearly broke the law. Why is this a hard concept for you?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Again you are twisting facts and truth. She said she did not send or receive classified documents that were marked Classified at the time the emails were sent or received, and so far, it shows that she didn't.

And even if she used the .gov system, (which was the Unclassified email system gvt workers used) the whole time as Secretary of state, all of those thousand plus emails NOW classified and redacted in some manner for the FOIA requests, would now be redacted and classified AFTER the fact as well.

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

I believe Nixon had motive. You ignored that question for some reason.

Motive is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she clearly broke the law. Why is this a hard concept for you?

Clearly? According to who? Where is the indictment?

By the way....a person who says motive is irrelevant cannot be taken seriously.

 

[The Rabbi]

You're delusional. She's going to prison if justice still exists in America.

And BTW - she only changed her story about marked documents AFTER classified data was found on her personal server.

Now we are up to 1,340. And it is HER responsibility to know what's classified information.

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

I believe Nixon had motive. You ignored that question for some reason.

Motive is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she clearly broke the law. Why is this a hard concept for you?

Clearly? According to who? Where is the indictment?

Mens rea is not a factor in federal crimes. Either she did or she didnt. And she did.
Where is the indictment? Coming down shortly. Are you honestly this stupid to think just because someone isnt indicted it means they didnt commit a crime? Dont answer that.

 

[LoneLaugher]

She is not in prison. She has not been charged with a crime. These are facts. Is it your contention that justice does not still exist in America?

What, my friend, do you think her criminal motive was? Please....be specific and support your claim with some rational thought. Thanks.

Nixon was innocent, by that standard.

I believe Nixon had motive. You ignored that question for some reason.

Motive is irrelevant. What is relevant is that she clearly broke the law. Why is this a hard concept for you?

Clearly? According to who? Where is the indictment?

Mens rea is not a factor in federal crimes. Either she did or she didnt. And she did.
Where is the indictment? Coming down shortly. Are you honestly this stupid to think just because someone isnt indicted it means they didnt commit a crime? Dont answer that.

What did she do?

It's coming shortly? Cool!