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Hillary Clinton Colluded In The 2016 Election

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Well until then I will just be lighting a fire under people who make false accusations.

All I ask is to make sure the accusations are false and also light a fire under the people who are actually guilty of something. Particularly if it means it has caused an increase in the lack of trust on our gov't. We should expect better outcomes, and should get better outcomes than what we've received lately from our elected officials and those they appoint.
 

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Nothing wrong with the premise but there has to be a point when if it can't be proven in a court of law then it is time to let it go.
 

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Well until then I will just be lighting a fire under people who make false accusations. But it brings a smile to me when repub have nothing constructive to say and now they just want to convert to their true colors.
Whatever you say.
 

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She's not above the rule of law, she just hasn't broken the law, silly one!
You obviously have never handled classified information. Hillary is guilty as hell of negligently handling highly classified information but she is totally above the rule of law so it doesn’t matter.




One reason our government is so damn corrupt is nothing happens to high level people who break the law. If the police ignored speed limits for people driving Mercedes-Benz luxury cars the people who owned one would drive it like a bat out of hell.

 

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There were tons of evidence linking Hillary to a conspiracy to undermine the Trump administration. The FBI's phony "dossier" should have resulted in indictments but the fix was in in the federal government and the media was in on it. Who do you see when the "justice" Dept. is a crooked extension of the democrat propaganda machine and the media is part of it? Nobody I guess.
 

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The House of Cards is falling down.....the Obamagate gang, and the Clinton Collusion is being exposed.

Remember democracy dies in darkness....glad Durham is shining some light on this
 

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You obviously have never handled classified information. Hillary is guilty as hell of negligently handling highly classified information but she is totally above the rule of law so it doesn’t matter.




One reason our government is so damn corrupt is nothing happens to high level people who break the law. If the police ignored speed limits for people driving Mercedes-Benz luxury cars the people who owned one would drive it like a bat out of hell.


Yet the FBI didn't charge her with any crime nor sough an indictment.

the FBI found “no clear evidence” that Clinton had intentionally violated the laws concerning classified information, Comey said there is evidence that the former secretary of state and her team were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

concerning the number of emails they reviewed.

Comey said “we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort,” by the former secretary of state’s lawyers.

negligent is a minor crime but it still unintentional rather than intentional

Mueller report did not seek prosecution but the report did confirm intentional behavior on the part of Trump. Trump was not exonerated. Yes in a political version of a trial he was found not guilty. Is it because he was above the law or republicans did not want the stain on their party?
 
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But the tard herd was jumping up and down with glee, absolutely ecstatic that Durham's investigation was going to result in the imprisonment of Peter Strzok, Andrew Weissmann, James Comey, Sally Yates, Rod Rosenstein, John Brennan, James Clapper, and Susan Rice!

They must be so disappointed. I guess Durham will now go down as a member of the D33P STAIT.
I guess you would know how it feels when Mueller wound up indicting Russian spies for spying activities.
 
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Durham has nothing... In near 3 years of investigating.... WOW! What a waste of money!
Just as the Mueller investigation. We spent like 2 million dollars finding out that Russian spies were guilty of spying.
 
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Yet the FBI didn't charge her with any crime nor sough an indictment.

the FBI found “no clear evidence” that Clinton had intentionally violated the laws concerning classified information, Comey said there is evidence that the former secretary of state and her team were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

concerning the number of emails they reviewed.

Comey said “we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort,” by the former secretary of state’s lawyers.

negligent is a minor crime but it still unintentional rather than intentional

Mueller report did not seek prosecution but the report did confirm intentional behavior on the part of Trump. Trump was not exonerated. Yes in a political version of a trial he was found not guilty. Is it because he was above the law or republicans did not want the stain on their party?
LOL. Yes, the FBI do bang up jobs. Just ask the US Olympic gymnists.
 

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Well he had the support of the lawless who will wave a flag in one hand and then use it to break into the capitol.

With the capitol police opening the doors for them and moving barricades.
 

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Just as the Mueller investigation. We spent like 2 million dollars finding out that Russian spies were guilty of spying.
The Mueller investigation made a profit, off of Manafort finally paying for the tax evasion charge.
 

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Yet the FBI didn't charge her with any crime nor sough an indictment.

the FBI found “no clear evidence” that Clinton had intentionally violated the laws concerning classified information, Comey said there is evidence that the former secretary of state and her team were “extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.

concerning the number of emails they reviewed.

Comey said “we believe our investigation has been sufficient to give us reasonable confidence there was no intentional misconduct in connection with that sorting effort,” by the former secretary of state’s lawyers.

negligent is a minor crime but it still unintentional rather than intentional

Mueller report did not seek prosecution but the report did confirm intentional behavior on the part of Trump. Trump was not exonerated. Yes in a political version of a trial he was found not guilty. Is it because he was above the law or republicans did not want the stain on their party?
Of course the FBI didn’t find Hillary guilty of anything. Hillary is above the rule of law.

The FBI is corrupt at the top if not all the way through and through. That’s one reason there is so much corruption in our government. The rule of law doesn’t apply equally to all. Those who are lucky enough to be above the rule of law take full advantage of that fact.


As I have recently explained, the misimpression that Clinton’s case is primarily about “extreme carelessness” rather than willful misconduct is the result of Obama administration sleight-of-hand. Mrs. Clinton should have been investigated (and charged) under section 793(e) since she, like Lee, willfully and unlawfully retained classified information in unauthorized places (and transmitted it to unauthorized people). The gross-negligence felony (793(f)) should have been the prosecutors’ fallback position — i.e., even if a jury somehow rejected the overwhelming evidence that she willfully mishandled the intelligence, she could still be convicted if the jury concluded she was grossly negligent.

Clinton was like Lee: She should have been prosecuted for willful misconduct.
In a deceptive two-step, the Obama Justice Department first claimed Clinton could not be prosecuted for willful mishandling because she did not have a motive to harm the United States (not an element of the offense, and thus not true). Then, it claimed that she could not be prosecuted for gross negligence, either. To do so, they insisted, would (a) be constitutionally problematic because negligence is usually a civil-law standard, not a basis for criminal guilt; and (b) unfairly single her out because the Justice Department rarely brings such cases. This was nonsense on stilts: There is plenty of constitutional support for using negligence as a basis for criminal liability (for example, negligent homicide); the standard here was gross negligence, and it was applied only to a special category of government officials who were given security clearances after extensive training in the proper handling of classified materials; military officials have been prosecuted for gross negligence for misconduct far less serious than Clinton’s; and section 793(f) is a presumptively valid congressional statute that has never been held unconstitutional in its century on the books, so if there was any question, the Justice Department should have defended the law, not undermined it.

The Justice Department and FBI arguments about negligence were specious. Yet, by drawing us into this morass, the Obama administration ingeniously set the framework for public discussion of Clinton’s case: just carelessness, not real crime. In reality, Clinton was like Lee: She should have been prosecuted for willful misconduct.



Imagine an investigation of racial bias in a bank, with investigators discovering a long series of serious errors and departures from ordinary standards and practices, violations of business norms, etc., not by a single loan officer but by three separate business units overseen by the highest levels of management — with all of those errors disadvantaging African-American mortgage borrowers. Would we need texts and emails documenting active racial bias on the part of the bankers to conclude that there was racial bias at play? If we found that a police department had violated its own standards on a regular basis in its treatment of African-American suspects but uncovered no texts or emails documenting racial intent, would we be satisfied that no racial bias existed?

Of course not.

And, in the case of the Obama administration, using investigative agencies as political weapons fits a well-established pattern of behavior. Under the Obama administration, the IRS abused its powers for political purposes: Conservative nonprofits were targeted for investigation and harassment. So was the National Labor Relations Board. So was the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. In fact, this is part of a pattern of behavior among Democrats both inside and outside of the federal government: New York State has just been forced to abandon a political jihad against Exxon, which Democrats attempted to prosecute for indulging wrongthink on global warming, using securities law as a pretext. Democratic prosecutors have abused their powers to harass and intimidate climate-policy critics including policy nonprofits such as the Competitive Enterprise Institute. That isn’t a conspiracy theory — New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (later driven from office) organized the campaign and announced his intentions in the New York Times.

The FBI’s actions in the Trump matter were outrageous, with agents going so far as to alter documents included as part of the FISA warrant process.


Focus in on that for a moment: The Federal Bureau of Investigation under the Obama administration sought to launch an investigation of the rival party’s presidential campaign in order to spy on it under powers reserved for national-security purposes. (FISA stands for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.) In order to activate those powers, the FBI had to go to a federal court for permission, which it did — with falsified documents in hand. If the FBI attorney who altered that document avoids seeing the inside of a federal prison cell, it will be a grave disservice to justice.



The FBI’s handling of the Nassar case reflects a stunning failure of empathy by the agents, as well as a callous abandonment of duty amid the ongoing threat to public safety that Nassar posed. Gymnasts and Nassar victims Simone Biles, Maggie Nichols and Aly Raisman, along with Maroney, told the Senate on Wednesday that the agency’s derelictions were both procedural and moral. In downplaying their experiences, delaying the investigation, and failing to collect evidence of Nassar’s crimes, the FBI committed a second, additional harm against Nassar’s victims: not only were they abused, but they were insulted and disregarded by those who were supposedly there to help them.

As Maroney put it in her testimony, “What is the point of reporting abuse if our own FBI agents are going to take it upon themselves to bury that report in a drawer?”[/i]


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She's not above the rule of law, she just hasn't broken the law, silly one!
Hillary wasn’t charged because the FBI is corrupt at the top and Hillary is therefore above the rule of law.




 

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Of course the FBI didn’t find Hillary guilty of anything. Hillary is above the rule of law.

The FBI is corrupt at the top if not all the way through and through. That’s one reason there is so much corruption in our government. The rule of law doesn’t apply equally to all. Those who are lucky enough to be above the rule of law take full advantage of that fact.


As I have recently explained, the misimpression that Clinton’s case is primarily about “extreme carelessness” rather than willful misconduct is the result of Obama administration sleight-of-hand. Mrs. Clinton should have been investigated (and charged) under section 793(e) since she, like Lee, willfully and unlawfully retained classified information in unauthorized places (and transmitted it to unauthorized people). The gross-negligence felony (793(f)) should have been the prosecutors’ fallback position — i.e., even if a jury somehow rejected the overwhelming evidence that she willfully mishandled the intelligence, she could still be convicted if the jury concluded she was grossly negligent.


In a deceptive two-step, the Obama Justice Department first claimed Clinton could not be prosecuted for willful mishandling because she did not have a motive to harm the United States (not an element of the offense, and thus not true). Then, it claimed that she could not be prosecuted for gross negligence, either. To do so, they insisted, would (a) be constitutionally problematic because negligence is usually a civil-law standard, not a basis for criminal guilt; and (b) unfairly single her out because the Justice Department rarely brings such cases. This was nonsense on stilts: There is plenty of constitutional support for using negligence as a basis for criminal liability (for example, negligent homicide); the standard here was gross negligence, and it was applied only to a special category of government officials who were given security clearances after extensive training in the proper handling of classified materials; military officials have been prosecuted for gross negligence for misconduct far less serious than Clinton’s; and section 793(f) is a presumptively valid congressional statute that has never been held unconstitutional in its century on the books, so if there was any question, the Justice Department should have defended the law, not undermined it.

The Justice Department and FBI arguments about negligence were specious. Yet, by drawing us into this morass, the Obama administration ingeniously set the framework for public discussion of Clinton’s case: just carelessness, not real crime. In reality, Clinton was like Lee: She should have been prosecuted for willful misconduct.



Imagine an investigation of racial bias in a bank, with investigators discovering a long series of serious errors and departures from ordinary standards and practices, violations of business norms, etc., not by a single loan officer but by three separate business units overseen by the highest levels of management — with all of those errors disadvantaging African-American mortgage borrowers. Would we need texts and emails documenting active racial bias on the part of the bankers to conclude that there was racial bias at play? If we found that a police department had violated its own standards on a regular basis in its treatment of African-American suspects but uncovered no texts or emails documenting racial intent, would we be satisfied that no racial bias existed?

Of course not.

And, in the case of the Obama administration, using investigative agencies as political weapons fits a well-established pattern of behavior. Under the Obama administration, the IRS abused its powers for political purposes: Conservative nonprofits were targeted for investigation and harassment. So was the National Labor Relations Board. So was the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms. In fact, this is part of a pattern of behavior among Democrats both inside and outside of the federal government: New York State has just been forced to abandon a political jihad against Exxon, which Democrats attempted to prosecute for indulging wrongthink on global warming, using securities law as a pretext. Democratic prosecutors have abused their powers to harass and intimidate climate-policy critics including policy nonprofits such as the Competitive Enterprise Institute. That isn’t a conspiracy theory — New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman (later driven from office) organized the campaign and announced his intentions in the New York Times.

The FBI’s actions in the Trump matter were outrageous, with agents going so far as to alter documents included as part of the FISA warrant process.


Focus in on that for a moment: The Federal Bureau of Investigation under the Obama administration sought to launch an investigation of the rival party’s presidential campaign in order to spy on it under powers reserved for national-security purposes. (FISA stands for Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.) In order to activate those powers, the FBI had to go to a federal court for permission, which it did — with falsified documents in hand. If the FBI attorney who altered that document avoids seeing the inside of a federal prison cell, it will be a grave disservice to justice.



The FBI’s handling of the Nassar case reflects a stunning failure of empathy by the agents, as well as a callous abandonment of duty amid the ongoing threat to public safety that Nassar posed. Gymnasts and Nassar victims Simone Biles, Maggie Nichols and Aly Raisman, along with Maroney, told the Senate on Wednesday that the agency’s derelictions were both procedural and moral. In downplaying their experiences, delaying the investigation, and failing to collect evidence of Nassar’s crimes, the FBI committed a second, additional harm against Nassar’s victims: not only were they abused, but they were insulted and disregarded by those who were supposedly there to help them.

As Maroney put it in her testimony, “What is the point of reporting abuse if our own FBI agents are going to take it upon themselves to bury that report in a drawer?”[/i]


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Either did the 9 investigations by the retarded Republicans.
10 years, millions of taxpayer $$$ wasted and not ONE arrest.

The Trump regime had more than that, in the first month of their criminal mob.
 

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OEither did the 9 investigations by the retarded Republicans.
10 years, millions of taxpayer $$$ wasted and not ONE arrest.

The Trump regime had more than that, in the first month of their criminal mob.
I’ll spend a lot of my day watching football. The reason I watch it is that I believe in most cases the referees try to insure both teams in a game follow the rules.

Now if the referees were to suddenly decide to favor my team over its opponents I might be pleased for a while but eventually I would quit watching football.

Recently the DOJ and the FBI has shown favoritism toward certain high level politicians and some say these agencies have been “weaponized” by the Democratic Party against conservative groups like the Tea Party and the Trump Deplorables.

You may be happy as can be that Hillary Clinton, Joe and Hunter Biden and a bunch of other high level liberal politicians and a few conservative politicians are totally above the rule of law but eventually the day will come when this nation will break apart. People hate unfairness be it corrupt referees in sports or corrupt law enforcement agencies.

If and when the United States spits up it will no longer be the strongest nation in the world. Perhaps China will take over. If the Communist Chinese ever end up running things in this nation people will curse the day they took over. And don’t kid yourself. The Chinese are busy buying our corrupt politicians lock stick and barrel right now.




 

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There were tons of evidence linking Hillary to a conspiracy to undermine the Trump administration. The FBI's phony "dossier" should have resulted in indictments but the fix was in in the federal government and the media was in on it. Who do you see when the "justice" Dept. is a crooked extension of the democrat propaganda machine and the media is part of it? Nobody I guess.

Anne Coulter exposed Hillary's collusion back in 2018 in her book 'Resistance is Futile', with footnotes!
This is not any kind of a new revelation.
 

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She's not above the rule of law, she just hasn't broken the law, silly one!

Yeah, she did. As I recall, Comey did not recommend an indictment against her because he didn't believe the prosecution couldn't prove criminal intent. The only problem is, that's not the law. Federal law states that 'gross negligence' in handling the nation's intelligence can be punished criminally with prison time or fines, and there is no requirement that defendants act intentionally or recklessly. Since no one has ever been successfully prosecuted under that federal law for that crime without proving criminal intent, the democrats used that as an excuse to let her off the hook. It was funny, Comey's own finding was that Hillary did in fact exhibit gross negligence, but the wording got changed by that smarmy Strzok bastard to look less criminal. Okay, not funny but that's DC politics and justice for you.

But make no mistake, she WAS guilty as hell and should've gone to jail for it. An ordinary person would have been indicted and convicted; many others have been convicted without proving intent, but well, she was a democrat and a Clinton. Different rules for some people. To say she was not above the law is ridiculous.
 

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LOL. Yes, the FBI do bang up jobs. Just ask the US Olympic gymnasts.

It really had nothing to do with the FBI investigation into Clinton. They said that Clinton did things wrong but it wasn't enough to warrant prosecution.

Mistake were made in the gymnastic case.
Still the guy who did molest her is in jail. The guys in the FBI who made mistakes were fired.

so you really can't quote the two and say that it is the same.

FBI foils alleged plot to kidnap Michigan governor

well I guess as a republican then you would assumed the FBI messed up and should have allowed them to kidnap her.
 

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