Hey lefties, bet you didnt see this coming. "GreenPeace Co-founder speaks out about CO2".

[Mikeoxenormous]

Greenpeace co-founder Dr Patrick Moore says we need much more CO2 in the atmosphere

I was fascinated by Patrick Moore’s comment about CO2 at 150 ppm and how the plants would die. I went and did some research and sure enough he’s right. Here’s a bit from my research –
Atmospheric CO2 is not alarmingly high, it is too low for optimal plant growth and alarmingly low for the survival of carbon-based terrestrial life. The real danger is not too much CO2 – it is CO2 starvation. Over geologic time, CO2 is ~permanently sequestered in carbonate rocks.
Plants evolved at atmospheric CO2 concentrations of 2000 ppm and greater, and many grow best at about 1200 ppm CO2 – about 3 times current levels. That is why greenhouse operators maintain 1000-1200 ppm CO2 in their greenhouses.
Major food crops (except corn) use the C3 photosynthetic pathway, and die at about 150 ppm from CO2 starvation – that is just 30 ppm below the minimum levels during the last Ice Age, which ended just 10,000 years ago – “the blink of an eye” in geologic time. Earth came that close to a major extinction event.

Now i know that at one time, all your lefties parents, loved Greenpeace and save the whales and the planet. But what happened to you all, did you lose it completely when Al Jazeera Gore went on a tirade and told you guys that CO2 would burn up the world? Must have, that was part of the dumbing down of America. But here is some "REAL" science, saying that the lefties want to kill you, because less CO2 would mean less food for the people. That would mean you would go hungry, and from what i see, a few of you could miss a few days of eating.

 

[The Duke]

Greenpeace co-founder Dr Patrick Moore says we need much more CO2 in the atmosphere Now i know that at one time, all your lefties parents, loved Greenpeace and save the whales and the planet. But what happened to you all, did you lose it completely when Al Jazeera Gore went on a tirade and told you guys that CO2 would burn up the world? Must have, that was part of the dumbing down of America. But here is some "REAL" science, saying that the lefties want to kill you, because less CO2 would mean less food for the people. That would mean you would go hungry, and from what i see, a few of you could miss a few days of eating.

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They actually did make concentration camps in Australia.

 

[mamooth]

Patrick Moore is not a co-founder of Greenpeace. He lies about that.

He's spent most of his life taking money from polluters in return for shilling fake science, and he's taking money from polluters now.

Since he's a corrupt liar who sucks at the science, conservatives consider him to be just like themselves, so they love him.

I'd ask the denier cranks to discuss the actual science here, but they can't. They have no idea why Moore's stuff is so stupid. They just know their masters want them to cut and paste.

 

[sealybobo]

Greenpeace co-founder Dr Patrick Moore says we need much more CO2 in the atmosphere Now i know that at one time, all your lefties parents, loved Greenpeace and save the whales and the planet. But what happened to you all, did you lose it completely when Al Jazeera Gore went on a tirade and told you guys that CO2 would burn up the world? Must have, that was part of the dumbing down of America. But here is some "REAL" science, saying that the lefties want to kill you, because less CO2 would mean less food for the people. That would mean you would go hungry, and from what i see, a few of you could miss a few days of eating.

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Old news. He sold out. Wouldn’t you? Of course you would. Already have

 

[sealybobo]

Greenpeace co-founder Dr Patrick Moore says we need much more CO2 in the atmosphere Now i know that at one time, all your lefties parents, loved Greenpeace and save the whales and the planet. But what happened to you all, did you lose it completely when Al Jazeera Gore went on a tirade and told you guys that CO2 would burn up the world? Must have, that was part of the dumbing down of America. But here is some "REAL" science, saying that the lefties want to kill you, because less CO2 would mean less food for the people. That would mean you would go hungry, and from what i see, a few of you could miss a few days of eating.

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Bush got hit on 9-11 Trump got hit by Wuhan

 

[toobfreak]

I was fascinated by Patrick Moore’s comment about CO2 at 150 ppm and how the plants would die.

Actually, while CO2 is plant-food, studies show that over time, plants adjust to lower and higher CO2 levels by adjusting the number of stomata they have in their leaves, which are like tiny mouths which take in CO2. The net result is that plants adjust to cope with varying CO2.

 

[jackflash]

Greenpeace co-founder Dr Patrick Moore says we need much more CO2 in the atmosphere Now i know that at one time, all your lefties parents, loved Greenpeace and save the whales and the planet. But what happened to you all, did you lose it completely when Al Jazeera Gore went on a tirade and told you guys that CO2 would burn up the world? Must have, that was part of the dumbing down of America. But here is some "REAL" science, saying that the lefties want to kill you, because less CO2 would mean less food for the people. That would mean you would go hungry, and from what i see, a few of you could miss a few days of eating.

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[mamooth]

Why Moore and the deniers are so stupid:

Global greening from CO2 fertilization peaked in the late 1990's. It's been downhill since then. More CO2 has not helped plant growth.

But that's just reality, so deniers will do what they do best, which is deny reality.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Why Moore and the deniers are so stupid:

Global greening from CO2 fertilization peaked in the late 1990's. It's been downhill since then. More CO2 has not helped plant growth.

But that's just reality, so deniers will do what they do best, which is deny reality.

You are continuing to promote this stupid lies about CO2 fertilization effect which are still ongoing, which were fully addressed elsewhere, and you ran away because you can't handle the evidence.

Meanwhile Dr. Moore was indeed a founder of Greenpeace, it is made clear when the Wayback Machine is used since Greenpeace scrubbed him off their website after he left them.

2002 Greenpeace:

2005 Greenpeace:

You have a talent of being wrong, what school did you attend to achieve this level of inability.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Patrick Moore is not a co-founder of Greenpeace. He lies about that.

He's spent most of his life taking money from polluters in return for shilling fake science, and he's taking money from polluters now.

Since he's a corrupt liar who sucks at the science, conservatives consider him to be just like themselves, so they love him.

I'd ask the denier cranks to discuss the actual science here, but they can't. They have no idea why Moore's stuff is so stupid. They just know their masters want them to cut and paste.

A lot of personal attacks but ZERO evidence to support any of it.

You once claimed you had a Physics degree, yet you write like a cheap juvenile being paid in pennies.

 

[mamooth]

You are continuing to promote this stupid which fully addressed elsewhere and you ran away.

Drunk, butthurt and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Nobody forces you to pout-stalk me. You choose to humiliate yourself that way. Just try to choose not to.

Oh, if anyone wants to see you repeatedly running on this topic, they can do it here. Funny how I want to link to the evidence. You always want to avoid the evidence. You'll lie about various research (in that particular case, you lied proudly about what NASA supposedly said), then ignore how I pointed out you lied, and then you'll point to the original lie and declare victory. You're boring and pathetic that way.

What puts more CO2 into the atmosphere cars or forest fires?

The picture with the red was 2024. The 2017 picture was simply topographic green. It used no added colors at all. There is nothing unusual about using the spectrum to indicate relative temperatures. Is using blue for cooler temps alarmist? How about green for rain? Is that too scary? Deep...

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What puts more CO2 into the atmosphere cars or forest fires?

The picture with the red was 2024. The 2017 picture was simply topographic green. It used no added colors at all. There is nothing unusual about using the spectrum to indicate relative temperatures. Is using blue for cooler temps alarmist? How about green for rain? Is that too scary? Deep...

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Meanwhile Dr. Moore was indeed a founder of Greenpeace,

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Greenpeace was founded in 1970. Moore first applies to the group in 1971, and only stays briefly.

Who Founded Greenpeace? Not Patrick Moore. | ScienceBlogs

Who are the founders of Greenpeace? Not Patrick Moore. Patrick Moore is a Hippie for Hire. He makes the claim that he co-founded Greenpeace, and charges a fee to show up at conferences or other venues, or sit on boards, to provide a story that anti-environmentalists, global warming deniers, and...

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In a addition to showing how the founders of Greenpeace say that Moore wasn't a founder of Greenpeace, that page gives you a link to Moore's application letter to join Greenpeace. A non-cultist would look at that and conclude "Hmmm. If he was a founder, he wouldn't have to fill out an application".

Oh, you can also read the wiki page that says that Moore was not a founder. Of course, to you, that just means wiki is part of the conspiracy.

Now, do what you do best. Piss yourself uncontrollably, then run away screaming and crying. Then, a month later, declare absolute victory. You are such a sad little cult pissant.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Drunk, butthurt and stupid is no way to go through life, son. Nobody forces you to pout-stalk me. You choose to humiliate yourself that way. Just try to choose not to.

Oh, if anyone wants to see you repeatedly running on this topic, they can do it here. Funny how I want to link to the evidence. You always want to avoid the evidence. You'll lie about various research (in that particular case, you lied proudly about what NASA supposedly said), then ignore how I pointed out you lied, and then you'll point to the original lie and declare victory. You're boring and pathetic that way.

What puts more CO2 into the atmosphere cars or forest fires?

The picture with the red was 2024. The 2017 picture was simply topographic green. It used no added colors at all. There is nothing unusual about using the spectrum to indicate relative temperatures. Is using blue for cooler temps alarmist? How about green for rain? Is that too scary? Deep...

www.usmessageboard.com

What puts more CO2 into the atmosphere cars or forest fires?

The picture with the red was 2024. The 2017 picture was simply topographic green. It used no added colors at all. There is nothing unusual about using the spectrum to indicate relative temperatures. Is using blue for cooler temps alarmist? How about green for rain? Is that too scary? Deep...

www.usmessageboard.com

Meanwhile, back in the real world, Greenpeace was founded in 1970. Moore first applies to the group in 1971, and only stays briefly.

Who Founded Greenpeace? Not Patrick Moore. | ScienceBlogs

Who are the founders of Greenpeace? Not Patrick Moore. Patrick Moore is a Hippie for Hire. He makes the claim that he co-founded Greenpeace, and charges a fee to show up at conferences or other venues, or sit on boards, to provide a story that anti-environmentalists, global warming deniers, and...

scienceblogs.com

In a addition to showing how the founders of Greenpeace say that Moore wasn't a founder of Greenpeace, that page gives you a link to Moore's application letter to join Greenpeace. A non-cultist would look at that and conclude "Hmmm. If he was a founder, he wouldn't have to fill out an application".

Oh, you can also read the wiki page that says that Moore was not a founder. Of course, to you, that just means wiki is part of the conspiracy.

Now, do what you do best. Piss yourself uncontrollably, then run away screaming and crying. Then, a month later, declare absolute victory. You are such a sad little cult pissant.

We went over this even posted recent published papers that continues to see CO2 continuing to green the earth YOUR link was a MODELING construct.


Greenpeace website shows him listed as a FOUNDER you MORON!!!

"In 1970, the Don't Make A Wave Committee was established; its sole objective was to stop the second test. The committee's founders and first members included:

•	Paul Cote, a law student at the University of British Columbia
•	Jim Bohlen, a former deep-sea diver and radar operator in the US Navy
•	Irving Stowe, a Quaker and Yale-educated lawyer
•	Patrick Moore, ecology student at the University of British Columbia
•	Bill Darnell, a social worker"

You can't lie your way out of this one since its right there on the website.

 

[mamooth]

We went over this

You got humiliated. Stop crying about it. You're only making yourself look worse.

There's a reason you're a marginalized kook. You get every single thing totally wrong, because of the cult brainwashing, and because you're just not very smart. For example, we have this ...

Greenpeace website shows him listed as a FOUNDER you MORON!!!

No, it doesn't.

The page says "Founders and first members". Those are two different categories. There are "founders", and there are "first members". Moore is in the latter category.

Yes, they could have written that more clearly, but still, a person of normal intelligence could have figured it out.

So, you have nothing. I have hard evidence. 'Nuff said.

Let's watch you squirm now. You're not actually as dumb as you pretend to be. You know you 'effed up badly, but you're too much of a manbaby to admit it. So, you're going to have to pretend the English doesn't really mean what it says. Please proceed.

Anyways, why is it so emotionally important for you to believe Moore's big lie here?

 

[ding]

You got humiliated. Stop crying about it. You're only making yourself look worse.

There's a reason you're a marginalized kook. You get every single thing totally wrong, because of the cult brainwashing, and because you're just not very smart. For example, we have this ...


No, it doesn't.

The page says "Founders and first members". Those are two different categories. There are "founders", and there are "first members". Moore is in the latter category.

Yes, they could have written that more clearly, but still, a person of normal intelligence could have figured it out.

So, you have nothing. I have hard evidence. 'Nuff said.

Let's watch you squirm now. You're not actually as dumb as you pretend to be. You know you 'effed up badly, but you're too much of a manbaby to admit it. So, you're going to have to pretend the English doesn't really mean what it says. Please proceed.

Anyways, why is it so emotionally important for you to believe Moore's big lie here?

Squirm away from the present being 2C colder than the previous interglacial period with 26ft shallower seas and 120 ppm more atmospheric CO2.

 

[ding]

Global greening from CO2 fertilization peaked in the late 1990's. It's been downhill since then. More CO2 has not helped plant growth.

How can you possibly make that argument? More CO2 always helps plant growth. Why do you think pot farms pump CO2 into their grow houses? Could it be that they do so because it increases yield? Maybe try googling is the planet getting more green.

 

[mamooth]

How can you possibly make that argument? More CO2 always helps plant growth.

Because more CO2 doesn't always help plant growth. Duh.

After a certain point, it doesn't matter if you add more fertilizer.

However, it does matter if, say, that CO2 changes the climate and makes places drier.

Squirm away from the present being 2C colder than the previous interglacial period with 26ft shallower seas and 120 ppm more atmospheric CO2.

What in glub's name are you babbling about? Your stuff never makes any sense.

Stick to the topic. If you can't debate the current topic, just admit it. Don't try to change the topic with nonsense. That fools nobody.

 

[ReinyDays]

How can you possibly make that argument? More CO2 always helps plant growth. Why do you think pot farms pump CO2 into their grow houses? Could it be that they do so because it increases yield? Maybe try googling is the planet getting more green.

Yes ... more CO2 always helps plants grow ... and warmer temperatures make most everything grow faster ... Biochemistry 301 ...

However ... the true benefit is a warmer world is a wetter world ... and more water is better for most all plants ... especially human food plants which have a higher density of stomata ... see post #6 above ...

"Green leaves use energy from sunlight through photosynthesis to chemically combine carbon dioxide drawn in from the air with water and nutrients tapped from the ground to produce sugars, which are the main source of food, fiber and fuel for life on Earth. Studies have shown that increased concentrations of carbon dioxide increase photosynthesis, spurring plant growth." -- NASA -- April 26th, 2016 ...

I learned this is high school health class ... California expects more from her 14-year-old children ...

 

[ding]

Because more CO2 doesn't always help plant growth. Duh.

After a certain point, it doesn't matter if you add more fertilizer.

However, it does matter if, say, that CO2 changes the climate and makes places drier.



What in glub's name are you babbling about? Your stuff never makes any sense.

Stick to the topic. If you can't debate the current topic, just admit it. Don't try to change the topic with nonsense. That fools nobody.

You are a moron. See post #17 to become less of a moron.

 

[ReinyDays]

You are a moron. See post #17 to become less of a moron.

See post #6 ...

 

[ding]

See post #6 ...

I get that but commercial grow houses have empirically proven that 1200 ppm of CO2 increases their yields.