Zone1 Here's Why White Guilt About Slavery Is Insane

[Lisa558]

Still speaking for people you believe are inferior makes you the racist

And don’t forget….IM2 is bitching and whining about people being prejudiced against blacks, while he called Jews “satanic” and “evil.”

If Dems didn’t have double standards….well, you know the thing.

 

[rightwinger]

It was by intent. LBJ said that [with welfare], he “have the n’s voting Democrat for 200 years.”

He never said that

 

[Meathead]

He never said that

Yeah LBJ did, but he said he'd have the nigers voting Dem for 100 years.

 

[Lisa558]

Yeah LBJ did, but he said he'd have the nigers voting Dem for 100 years.

1) You’re not allowed to use that word. Careful.

2) He said 200 years.

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah LBJ did, but he said he'd have the nigers voting Dem for 100 years.

Myth

He actually stated that passing the Civil Rights act will lose the southern vote
Blacks had been voting Democratic since FDR

 

[JoeB131]

The problem with your story is that we were primarily Republicans until 1964. It was Repubicans that took our vote for granted. They took our vote so much for granted that they thought blacks would still vote Republican even if the Republican presidential nominee voted against the Civil Rights Act. What Goldwater did was so offensive that MLK campaigned for Johnson in 1964.

That's not entirely true. Blacks started voting Majority Democrat starting in 1932 with FDR. FDR balanced advancing civil rights with mollifying the White Southerners to keep together his coalition.

Goldwater's opposition to the Civil Rights Act knocked black GOP support down from the 35% Nixon got in 1960 to the 6% that Goldwater got, and it's rarely topped 15% since then.

Democrats have nominated and helped elect the only black president America has ever had. Democrats have had the only black vice president this country has ever had. Meanwhile, Republicans mocked her, called her DEI, ho, and a slut. So I do not know why you think that you can continue repeating your bullshit as if none of these things have happened, and that is why blacks vote Democrat. You racists seem to have the belief that white liberals are the ones telling us how to vote, as if we cannot think for ourselves. So even as you guys consistently offend us, you cannot see why we would choose not to be part of a party full of peple like you.

Um, okay, while all of this is very true (I think a chunk of white America completely lost their minds after Obama got elected), let's not forget that a lot of blacks didn't like Harris all that much either. Trump got 14% of the Black vote because some black men just couldn't bring themselves to vote for a woman.

We don’t blame racism for whites’ problems. It’s time you stop blaming racism for YOURS.

Because whites don't encounter racism, we benefit from white privilege. If you aren't honest enough to admit this, there isn't much to be said for you.

Whites and blacks both make irresponsible, bad choices in life. You just can’t admit that any black has any responsibility for his,

Here's the thing. Whites don't suffer as much of an impact from their bad choices.

Race, Criminal Background, and Employment - Sociological Images

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What was surprising was that race actually turned out to be more significant than a criminal background. Notice that employers were more likely to call Whites with a criminal record (17% were offered an interview) than Blacks without a criminal record (14%). And while having a criminal background hurt all applicants’ chances of getting an interview, African Americans with a non-violent offense faced particularly dismal employment prospects. Imagine if the fake criminal offense had been for a property or violent crime?

 

[ding]

That's not entirely true. Blacks started voting Majority Democrat starting in 1932 with FDR.

That's not entirely true.

Black voters began leaving the Republican Party after the 1877 Compromise due to the end of Reconstruction, which allowed Southern Democrats to regain control and systematically disenfranchise Black citizens through violence and voter suppression. Federal troops were withdrawn, leaving Black Republicans vulnerable.
Key factors for this shift include:

• The Compromise of 1877: The end of Reconstruction (1877) withdrew federal protection for Black voters in the South, enabling Southern Democrats to take control.
• Voter Suppression: Southern states implemented poll taxes, literacy tests, and violence to suppress the Black vote, effectively ending Black political power in the region.
• Physical Intimidation: Violence and intimidation by Democrats against Black Republicans during elections, particularly around 1874-1877, forced them away from the party.

While some Black voters remained with the Republican Party, the mass shift began with the betrayal of Reconstruction-era protections, as detailed by the National Museum of African American History and Culture and History.com.

 

[JoeB131]

That's not entirely true.

Black voters began leaving the Republican Party after the 1877 Compromise due to the end of Reconstruction, which allowed Southern Democrats to regain control and systematically disenfranchise Black citizens through violence and voter suppression. Federal troops were withdrawn, leaving Black Republicans vulnerable.
Key factors for this shift include:

• The Compromise of 1877: The end of Reconstruction (1877) withdrew federal protection for Black voters in the South, enabling Southern Democrats to take control.
• Voter Suppression: Southern states implemented poll taxes, literacy tests, and violence to suppress the Black vote, effectively ending Black political power in the region.
• Physical Intimidation: Violence and intimidation by Democrats against Black Republicans during elections, particularly around 1874-1877, forced them away from the party.

While some Black voters remained with the Republican Party, the mass shift began with the betrayal of Reconstruction-era protections, as detailed by the National Museum of African American History and Culture and History.com.

Specious argument. Blacks were banned from voting at all after Reconstruction.

But you do make a good point that the GOP abandoned Civil Rights fairly early on, but they kept coasting with what little black support there was up until FDR.

But Goldwater and subsequent Republican Racism killed it.

And this is why the Electoral College sucks. Since Blacks aren't the majority in any given state, there's no real incentive to cultivate their votes by either party nationally. (Locally is another issue.)

 

[ding]

Specious argument. Blacks were banned from voting at all after Reconstruction.

But you do make a good point that the GOP abandoned Civil Rights fairly early on, but they kept coasting with what little black support there was up until FDR.

But Goldwater and subsequent Republican Racism killed it.

And this is why the Electoral College sucks. Since Blacks aren't the majority in any given state, there's no real incentive to cultivate their votes by either party nationally. (Locally is another issue.)

You are arguing with the...

National Museum of African American History and Culture

 

[JoeB131]

You are arguing with the...

Historical facts are historical facts. Democrats didn't win the majority of the black vote until 1932, when FDR swept something like 42 states.

 

[jc456]

Yeah LBJ did, but he said he'd have the nigers voting Dem for 100 years.

he was right.

 

[jc456]

Specious argument. Blacks were banned from voting at all after Reconstruction.

Do you have a link to that one?

 

[Lisa558]

Do you have a link to that one?

Blacks got the vote before women did. Just saying.

 

[jc456]

Blacks got the vote before women did. Just saying.

Well during reconstruction the blacks had a 3/5th vote, the Federal Government was afraid of the democrats using the black vote to take control of the government right after the civil war. It's why Lincoln was assassinated. the democrats needed him out. Most always the assassination of a president was by democrats removing power from their opposition. there was no one as bright a Lincoln as a republican and of course the replacements were manipulated by the democrats.

 

[Lisa558]

Well during reconstruction the blacks had a 3/5th vote, the Federal Government was afraid of the democrats using the black vote to take control of the government right after the civil war. It's why Lincoln was assassinated. the democrats needed him out. Most always the assassination of a president was by democrats removing power from their opposition. there was no one as bright a Lincoln as a republican and of course the replacements were manipulated by the democrats.

Even so, our government recognized blacks to SOME degree before they recognized women at all.

It’s hard to imagine that my grandmother didn’t have the right to vote until she was almost 30 years old.

Do you have any idea when blacks were given a “full” vote?

 

[jc456]

Even so, our government recognized blacks to SOME degree before they recognized women at all.

It’s hard to imagine that my grandmother didn’t have the right to vote until she was almost 30 years old.

Do you have any idea when blacks were given a “full” vote?

I don't, it's why I asked the other dude.

 

[IM2]

I live in the real world. Like I said before, that's what people tell themselves.


They escaped the plantation only to voluntarily re-enter it.

You don't live anywhere near the real world.

 

[IM2]

Well during reconstruction the blacks had a 3/5th vote, the Federal Government was afraid of the democrats using the black vote to take control of the government right after the civil war. It's why Lincoln was assassinated. the democrats needed him out. Most always the assassination of a president was by democrats removing power from their opposition. there was no one as bright a Lincoln as a republican and of course the replacements were manipulated by the democrats.

Lies.

 

[IM2]

Still speaking for people you believe are inferior makes you the racist

Wrong. It's funny how you racists try imagining things that don't happen.

 

[jc456]

Lies.

What is?