Here's the real Economy- Before it implodes Pt2

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Part 1 Here.

Consumer spending in the U.S. accounts for approximately 70 percent of gross domestic product, though it is important to note that the manner in which “official” GDP is calculated is highly inaccurate. For example, all government money used within the Medicare coverage system to pay for “consumer health demands,” as well as the now flailing Obamacare socialized welfare program, are counted toward GDP, despite the fact that such capital is created from thin air by the Federal Reserve and also generates debt for the average taxpayer. Government debt creation does not beget successful domestic production. If that was a reality, then all socialist and communist countries (same thing) would be wildly enriched today. This is simply not the case.

That said, the swift decline in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. over the past two decades, including a considerable 33 percent overall decline in manufacturing jobs from 2001 to 2010, leaves only the consumer and service sectors as the primary areas of employment and “production.” The service sector provides about three out of every four jobs available in America, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The truth is that America actually produces very little that is tangible beyond Big Macs, pharmaceuticals and the occasional overpriced fighter jet that doesn’t function correctly and is filled with Chinese parts. All three will kill you at varying degrees of speed...

In the first part of this article series, I discussed the true state of global demand, along with the unstable situation within numerous indicators from exports to retail. Swiftly falling global demand for raw materials as well as consumer goods is an undeniable reality. This is a distinct problem in terms of the U.S., which has been, up until recently, the primary consumption driver for much of the world. As I plan to show, U.S. demand is about to fall even further into the abyss as real unemployment and personal debt take their toll.

Now, it is probably important to address the lies presented in the mainstream and by the BLS in terms of unemployment statistics because even after years of alternative analysts debunking establishment stats and how they are calculated, we STILL end up hearing the same arguments parroted by disinformation agents and unwitting useful idiots.

Such people continue to parade around boasting about the latest BLS reports on job creation claiming that “all is well” because the unemployment rate has dropped to 5.5% and all other talk to the contrary is “doom and gloom.” So, once again, I must relate the fact that the current BLS numbers are an utter sham.

Official unemployment stats are arrived at through disingenuous methods of calculation that were introduced in the 1990s, just before the bursting of the dot com bubble; the introduction of artificially low interest rates, which created the derivatives crisis; and the steady derailment of the U.S. financial system, which has occurred ever since.

So who is actually counted as employed and who is NOTcounted as employed by the BLS?

Of the 102 million working-age Americans without work today, only 8.7 million are counted by the BLS as unemployed. Out of all working-age Americans, over 92 million are without jobs and are not counted by the BLS as unemployed. Why?

Well, if you ever read establishment-leaning propaganda websites like Factcheck or Poltifact, the argument is essentially that these 92 million Americans are not counted because they “refuse to participate,” not because they can’t find adequate employment and not because the government is misrepresenting the numbers. Yes, that’s right, 92 million Americans don’t count because they clearly must not want work.

One Last Look At The Real Economy Before It Implodes - Part 2 Zero Hedge
 
Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.

We call it "Zero Money," because that's what you'd have if you listened to them.

If those guys worked for us, they'd have been fired a long time ago. Totally fucking incompetent.
 
Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.

We call it "Zero Money," because that's what you'd have if you listened to them.

If those guys worked for us, they'd have been fired a long time ago. Totally fucking incompetent.

Who by the way is, 'us'?

-Geaux
 
This economy is not built on economics, but that of smoke and mirrors

-Geaux

======================
Part 1 Here.

Consumer spending in the U.S. accounts for approximately 70 percent of gross domestic product, though it is important to note that the manner in which “official” GDP is calculated is highly inaccurate. For example, all government money used within the Medicare coverage system to pay for “consumer health demands,” as well as the now flailing Obamacare socialized welfare program, are counted toward GDP, despite the fact that such capital is created from thin air by the Federal Reserve and also generates debt for the average taxpayer. Government debt creation does not beget successful domestic production. If that was a reality, then all socialist and communist countries (same thing) would be wildly enriched today. This is simply not the case.

That said, the swift decline in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. over the past two decades, including a considerable 33 percent overall decline in manufacturing jobs from 2001 to 2010, leaves only the consumer and service sectors as the primary areas of employment and “production.” The service sector provides about three out of every four jobs available in America, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The truth is that America actually produces very little that is tangible beyond Big Macs, pharmaceuticals and the occasional overpriced fighter jet that doesn’t function correctly and is filled with Chinese parts. All three will kill you at varying degrees of speed...

In the first part of this article series, I discussed the true state of global demand, along with the unstable situation within numerous indicators from exports to retail. Swiftly falling global demand for raw materials as well as consumer goods is an undeniable reality. This is a distinct problem in terms of the U.S., which has been, up until recently, the primary consumption driver for much of the world. As I plan to show, U.S. demand is about to fall even further into the abyss as real unemployment and personal debt take their toll.

Now, it is probably important to address the lies presented in the mainstream and by the BLS in terms of unemployment statistics because even after years of alternative analysts debunking establishment stats and how they are calculated, we STILL end up hearing the same arguments parroted by disinformation agents and unwitting useful idiots.

Such people continue to parade around boasting about the latest BLS reports on job creation claiming that “all is well” because the unemployment rate has dropped to 5.5% and all other talk to the contrary is “doom and gloom.” So, once again, I must relate the fact that the current BLS numbers are an utter sham.

Official unemployment stats are arrived at through disingenuous methods of calculation that were introduced in the 1990s, just before the bursting of the dot com bubble; the introduction of artificially low interest rates, which created the derivatives crisis; and the steady derailment of the U.S. financial system, which has occurred ever since.

So who is actually counted as employed and who is NOTcounted as employed by the BLS?

Of the 102 million working-age Americans without work today, only 8.7 million are counted by the BLS as unemployed. Out of all working-age Americans, over 92 million are without jobs and are not counted by the BLS as unemployed. Why?

Well, if you ever read establishment-leaning propaganda websites like Factcheck or Poltifact, the argument is essentially that these 92 million Americans are not counted because they “refuse to participate,” not because they can’t find adequate employment and not because the government is misrepresenting the numbers. Yes, that’s right, 92 million Americans don’t count because they clearly must not want work.

One Last Look At The Real Economy Before It Implodes - Part 2 Zero Hedge

despite the fact that such capital is created from thin air by the Federal Reserve and also generates debt for the average taxpayer.

Huh? WTF is that supposed to mean?
 
Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.

We call it "Zero Money," because that's what you'd have if you listened to them.

If those guys worked for us, they'd have been fired a long time ago. Totally fucking incompetent.

Who by the way is, 'us'?

-Geaux

"Us" is an organization that would never hire anyone from Zero Hedge.

We're charged with making money. Zero Hedge is charge with writing shrill hysteria that appeals to a certain ideological crowd, regardless of whether they actually make any money.
 
This economy is not built on economics, but that of smoke and mirrors

-Geaux

======================
Part 1 Here.

Consumer spending in the U.S. accounts for approximately 70 percent of gross domestic product, though it is important to note that the manner in which “official” GDP is calculated is highly inaccurate. For example, all government money used within the Medicare coverage system to pay for “consumer health demands,” as well as the now flailing Obamacare socialized welfare program, are counted toward GDP, despite the fact that such capital is created from thin air by the Federal Reserve and also generates debt for the average taxpayer. Government debt creation does not beget successful domestic production. If that was a reality, then all socialist and communist countries (same thing) would be wildly enriched today. This is simply not the case.

That said, the swift decline in manufacturing jobs in the U.S. over the past two decades, including a considerable 33 percent overall decline in manufacturing jobs from 2001 to 2010, leaves only the consumer and service sectors as the primary areas of employment and “production.” The service sector provides about three out of every four jobs available in America, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics.

The truth is that America actually produces very little that is tangible beyond Big Macs, pharmaceuticals and the occasional overpriced fighter jet that doesn’t function correctly and is filled with Chinese parts. All three will kill you at varying degrees of speed...

In the first part of this article series, I discussed the true state of global demand, along with the unstable situation within numerous indicators from exports to retail. Swiftly falling global demand for raw materials as well as consumer goods is an undeniable reality. This is a distinct problem in terms of the U.S., which has been, up until recently, the primary consumption driver for much of the world. As I plan to show, U.S. demand is about to fall even further into the abyss as real unemployment and personal debt take their toll.

Now, it is probably important to address the lies presented in the mainstream and by the BLS in terms of unemployment statistics because even after years of alternative analysts debunking establishment stats and how they are calculated, we STILL end up hearing the same arguments parroted by disinformation agents and unwitting useful idiots.

Such people continue to parade around boasting about the latest BLS reports on job creation claiming that “all is well” because the unemployment rate has dropped to 5.5% and all other talk to the contrary is “doom and gloom.” So, once again, I must relate the fact that the current BLS numbers are an utter sham.

Official unemployment stats are arrived at through disingenuous methods of calculation that were introduced in the 1990s, just before the bursting of the dot com bubble; the introduction of artificially low interest rates, which created the derivatives crisis; and the steady derailment of the U.S. financial system, which has occurred ever since.

So who is actually counted as employed and who is NOTcounted as employed by the BLS?

Of the 102 million working-age Americans without work today, only 8.7 million are counted by the BLS as unemployed. Out of all working-age Americans, over 92 million are without jobs and are not counted by the BLS as unemployed. Why?

Well, if you ever read establishment-leaning propaganda websites like Factcheck or Poltifact, the argument is essentially that these 92 million Americans are not counted because they “refuse to participate,” not because they can’t find adequate employment and not because the government is misrepresenting the numbers. Yes, that’s right, 92 million Americans don’t count because they clearly must not want work.

One Last Look At The Real Economy Before It Implodes - Part 2 Zero Hedge

despite the fact that such capital is created from thin air by the Federal Reserve and also generates debt for the average taxpayer.

Huh? WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.
.

They haven't been wrong about the economy. It's actually awful and the gover-media is lying. They've been wrong about the stock marke only because obozo gives the bankers trillions of dollars and they use it to prop up the stock market and the US dollar. Keep gold suppressed at all costs. THINK
 
Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.
.

They haven't been wrong about the economy. It's actually awful and the gover-media is lying. They've been wrong about the stock marke only because obozo gives the bankers trillions of dollars and they use it to prop up the stock market and the US dollar. Keep gold suppressed at all costs. THINK

They've been wrong about the stock marke only because obozo gives the bankers trillions of dollars

How does Obozo do that? Spell it out.
 
And you know where that leads..............We've been down that road many times and we'll continue to disagree...............

But you always show up anytime people mention the thread.................Are they paying you...............

Anyway........old battle and not interested.

And you know where that leads..............

You say stupid things and I mock your ignorance.
That is a matter of opinion............As you are the mouth piece on these boards for too big to fail.............They should have been LIQUIDATED............and let the chips fall where they may...............

You say Derivatives GOOD.........as they went through the roof in a period of a few years........trading crap to inflated values and crashed the whole thing............

They knew exactly what they were doing, and are in bed with the Gov't............They help fuck our entire country and that is the deal...........You ignore Fractional Banking and reserve balances.............the OCC show's that data on a site already listed...............and we are feeding corpses.........

TOO BIG TO FAIL IS BS..............as was the QE program..........as was the over 3 TRILLION from the FEDS and as was 0% Loans from the FEDERAL Reserve to a tune of 16 TRILLION dollars to these PONZI BANKS to keep them afloat.

Tis what it is...........but you are so far up their ass that you don't care..........Mr. probably paid to post on this subject BRO........
 
Zero Hedge sucks.

I can't think of a site which has been more spectacularly wrong about the economy and the markets over the past five years than Zero Hedge.
.

They haven't been wrong about the economy. It's actually awful and the gover-media is lying. They've been wrong about the stock marke only because obozo gives the bankers trillions of dollars and they use it to prop up the stock market and the US dollar. Keep gold suppressed at all costs. THINK

You're fired.
 
And you know where that leads..............We've been down that road many times and we'll continue to disagree...............

But you always show up anytime people mention the thread.................Are they paying you...............

Anyway........old battle and not interested.

And you know where that leads..............

You say stupid things and I mock your ignorance.
That is a matter of opinion............As you are the mouth piece on these boards for too big to fail.............They should have been LIQUIDATED............and let the chips fall where they may...............

You say Derivatives GOOD.........as they went through the roof in a period of a few years........trading crap to inflated values and crashed the whole thing............

They knew exactly what they were doing, and are in bed with the Gov't............They help fuck our entire country and that is the deal...........You ignore Fractional Banking and reserve balances.............the OCC show's that data on a site already listed...............and we are feeding corpses.........

TOO BIG TO FAIL IS BS..............as was the QE program..........as was the over 3 TRILLION from the FEDS and as was 0% Loans from the FEDERAL Reserve to a tune of 16 TRILLION dollars to these PONZI BANKS to keep them afloat.

Tis what it is...........but you are so far up their ass that you don't care..........Mr. probably paid to post on this subject BRO........

You say Derivatives GOOD.........

They can be useful tools.

.........as they went through the roof in a period of a few years........trading crap to inflated values and crashed the whole thing............

Derivatives didn't cause the crash.

You ignore Fractional Banking and reserve balances

What about fractional reserve banking do you think I'm ignoring?

Mr. probably paid to post on this subject BRO........

Is everyone more who knows more than you paid to post here, or just me?
 
Official unemployment stats are arrived at through disingenuous methods of calculation that were introduced in the 1990s,
Note that he never says exactly what changed or what the old or new methods were/are. In 1994 the redesigned survey became official. Things were computerizd and some questions changed to be more accurate. The methods of calculating weren't really changed. The only definitional change for Unemployment was requiring people waiting to start a new job to have looked for work in the last 4 weeks to be classified unemployed.

So who is actually counted as employed and who is NOTcounted as employed by the BLS?

Of the 102 million working-age Americans without work today, only 8.7 million are counted by the BLS as unemployed. Out of all working-age Americans, over 92 million are without jobs and are not counted by the BLS as unemployed. Why?[/quote] Because Unemployed has always been defined as wanting work, available for work, and actively looking for work. People not trying to work have never been classified as unemployed (there were some exceptions until 1967 for specific issues and at interviewer discretion) unless on temporary layoff or waiting to start a new job (until 1994). Anyone not workiing who did not look for work that month, or wasn't available for work in the reference week, or didn't want a job is classified as "Not in the Labor Force."

Well, if you ever read establishment-leaning propaganda websites like Factcheck or Poltifact, the argument is essentially that these 92 million Americans are not counted because they “refuse to participate,” not because they can’t find adequate employment and not because the government is misrepresenting the numbers. Yes, that’s right, 92 million Americans don’t count because they clearly must not want work.
Let's look: Of the 93,686,000 people not in the Labor Force in February, 87,111,000 said they didn't want a job.
Of the 6,575,000 who said they did want to work, 3,740,000 had not done anything at all about getting a job in the previous 12 months: not one application, didn't send out a single resume, didn't even ask any friends or family....no effort at all in the previous 12 months.
Of the 2,835,000 who did look the previous 12 months but not previous 4 weeks, 676,000 couldn't have started a job if handed one on a silver platter.
So that leaves 2,159,000 people who want work, are available to work, and have looked for work in the last year but not last month. These are the Marginally Attached and are included in the U-5 and U-6 measures of underutilization. Most stopped looking for reasons such as family, school, illness,or other personal problems.
The remaining 732,000 "gave up" due to the belief they wouldn't find work.
A-38. Persons not in the labor force by desire and availability for work age and sex
Fourth, a common misrepresentation attached to the claim of “refusal to participate” is that many of these Americans are teens in school (16 to 18) and possible “retirees” (55 or older). The BLS and the mainstream media simply assume these people do not want a job and should not be counted as unemployed. Of course, the BLS includes such people in its stats when they DO have jobs. So, according to the BLS, if you are 16 or 55 or 65 and you have a job, then you count. If you are 16 or 55 or 65 and don’t have a job, then you don’t count. See how that works?
No, they don't assume. Census asks. Did you work last week? No? What did you do to look for work in the last 4 weeks? Nothing? Then they're not in the labor force. If they looked for work, they're unemployed.

Fifth, millions of Americans are losing long-term unemployment benefits every quarter and are being removed from BLS statistics.
That's a flat out lie. The survey doesn't even ask about benefits...If you're trying to work, you're unemployed.
 

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