Here’s the List: More Than a Dozen Proven Victims of Obama’s Many Wiretaps

[S.J.]

So isn't this just an obvious diversion, play bait to get the puppets talking about something different than Sessions and collusion?

No one has provided any evidence whatsoever that there was any "collusion" to influence the election. Don't act like there is.

You said yourself that there is no evidence and this whole narrative is based on the presumption that it's something Obama could have done because he doesn't respect the law.

No evidence has been provided yet but that doesn't mean there is none. We're only a few days into it. And there was no evidence required to launch an investigation into your phony Russian collusion allegations, only an accusation, so if we're gonna have a policy of investigating without providing evidence first, you'll have to live by your own standard (as much as you don't want to).

 

[Missouri_Mike]

Thanks for the information. Obama's administration listened in on foreign diplomats and heads of state. They tapped/hacked specific journalists, looking for the source of classified leaks. Both of those make sense to me and are probably going on today, as well, under President Trump.

So you buy Obama's BS about Rosen being a 'flight risk'?!

That doesn't explain why Obama illegally spied on Congress. And I find it hard to believe Obama was spying on people to find leaks when he himself made it possible for the Intel community to illegally leak the information he illegally (according to CNN) collected on Trump's team.

You CHOOSE to see Obama's spying on individual reporters (who were critical of his administration), media (whose reporters were writing articles critical of Obama and his administration, and Congress (Why them...?) as trying to protect the COUNTRY whereas to me it seems obvious he was protecting himself and his party.

The IRS targeting of Conservatives is further evidence it was all PARTISAN.

From the OP:
The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged

That doesn't explain why Obama illegally spied on Congress.
I don't know what you're talking about.

Was any information collected about these journalists ever leaked to the press or anywhere else to discredit them or stop them from reporting? No? The FBI was after the leakers contacting the reporters. As I said, I'd bet that's happening right now, as we speak.

So as long as there were no charges it's all good! You should be happy to have all of your information listened to by the government.

 

[S.J.]

A Trump tweet hardly counts as evidence.

No, but a history of using government agencies to go after your political opponents is good reason to take the charge seriously.

No it's not!!! Look at the timing, look at how Trump responds every time he is under pressure... he throws a shiney object for the puppets to chase. Don't be a puppet

Man, that's a weak response. You completely ignore the fact that Obama has done this sort of thing many times before against his political opponents. Own up to that FACT.

 

[easyt65]

No one has provided any evidence whatsoever that there was any "collusion" to influence the election. Don't act like there is.

BUH-BAM!

 

[Slade3200]

From the OP:
The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged

That doesn't explain why Obama illegally spied on Congress.
I don't know what you're talking about.

Was any information collected about these journalists ever leaked to the press or anywhere else to discredit them or stop them from reporting? No? The FBI was after the leakers contacting the reporters. As I said, I'd bet that's happening right now, as we speak.

"From the OP:
The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged"

Thank you for regurgitating the Obama administration's excuse / justification for labeling Rosin a 'threat' and a 'flight risk' (REALLY?!) so they could hack his computer and find out what the media was saying about them.

And you're saying Obama illegally collected personal data on Trump and his team, according to CNN, in the days before he left office ...what, in an attempt to find out who was leaking info - giving it to 16 Intel agencies where his appointed hold-overs illegally leaked the info after Trump became President....all for the 'good' of the country?

Are the leaks your talking about the ones that exposed Flynn for lying to the vice president which led to his firing? You just admitting a couple posts ago that there is no evidence of wiretaps so why are you now saying that Obama illegally collected data on Trump and his team. Again, honesty... try harder

 

[easyt65]

Man, that's a weak response. You completely ignore the fact that Obama has done this sort of thing many times before against his political opponents. Own up to that FACT.

Buh-BAM!

S.J., just smackin' that Snowflake ass.

 

[Slade3200]

So isn't this just an obvious diversion, play bait to get the puppets talking about something different than Sessions and collusion?

No one has provided any evidence whatsoever that there was any "collusion" to influence the election. Don't act like there is.

You said yourself that there is no evidence and this whole narrative is based on the presumption that it's something Obama could have done because he doesn't respect the law.

No evidence has been provided yet but that doesn't mean there is none. We're only a few days into it. And there was no evidence required to launch an investigation into your phony Russian collusion allegations, only an accusation, so if we're gonna have a policy of investigating without providing evidence first, you'll have to live by your own standard (as much as you don't want to).

I don't think there is collusion. There hasn't been any evidence or claims of evidence, only calls for an investigation by an independent prosecutor. This call is being reenforced by the multiple members of Trumps campaign that lied about meeting with the Russians.

 

[Slade3200]

No one has provided any evidence whatsoever that there was any "collusion" to influence the election. Don't act like there is.

BUH-BAM!

What are you Buh-Bamming? First of all SJ wrote that, not I. Second I never claimed there was evidence of collusion.

 

[Rob37]

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[easyt65]

Are the leaks your talking about the ones that exposed Flynn for lying to the vice president which led to his firing?

I am talking about the ILLEGAL leaks Obama facilitated that resulted in ZERO criminal acts being performed by Flynn.

 

[Rob37]

 

[easyt65]

What are you Buh-Bamming? First of all SJ wrote that, not I. Second I never claimed there was evidence of collusion.

My bad - I apologize. SJ - great point.

 

[Slade3200]

Are the leaks your talking about the ones that exposed Flynn for lying to the vice president which led to his firing?

I am talking about the ILLEGAL leaks Obama facilitated that resulted in ZERO criminal acts being performed by Flynn.

First of all you are making another claim with no evidence behind it. Second, Flynn got fired, that didn't happen for doing nothing. I never said Flynn was a criminal, you keep putting words in my mouth. Apparently you can't argue against my actual positions you need to distort them into something different. WEAK

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here’s the List: More Than a Dozen Proven Victims of Obama’s Many Wiretaps

"WikiLeaks released the following list on February 23rd (see link here) of Obama Administration wire taps:

* The US National Security Agency bugged a private climate change strategy meeting; between UN Secretary General Ban Ki-Moon and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Berlin;

* Obama bugged Chief of Staff of UN High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) for long term interception targetting his Swiss phone;

* Obama singled out the Director of the Rules Division of the World Trade Organisation (WTO), Johann Human, and targetted his Swiss phone for long term interception;

* Obama stole sensitive Italian diplomatic cables detailing how Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu implored Italy’s Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi to help patch up his relationship with US President Barack Obama, who was refusing to talk to Netanyahu;

* Obama intercepted top EU and Japanese trade ministers discussing their secret strategy and red lines to stop the US “extort[ing]” them at the WTO Doha arounds (the talks subsequently collapsed);

* Obama explicitly targeted five other top EU economic officials for long term interception, including their French, Austrian and Belgium phone numbers;
* Obama explicitly targetted the phones of Italy’s ambassador to NATO and other top Italian officials for long term interception; and

* Obama intercepted details of a critical private meeting between then French president Nicolas Sarkozy, Merkel and Berluscon, where the latter was told the Italian banking system was ready to “pop like a cork”.

* In addition to the above list we also know now that Obama wire tapped various individuals in the US media that were reporting information not flattering to the Obama Administration. It is widely known that Obama’s Justice Department targeted journalists with wiretaps in 2013:

* In 2013 the liberal Washington Post expressed outrage after the revelation that the Justice Department had investigated the newsgathering activities of a Fox News reporter as a potential crime in a probe of classified leaks. The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged but his movements and actions were tracked.

* Also in 2013, members of the Associated Press were also a target of the surveillance. The ultra liberal New Yorker even noted that “In moderate and liberal circles, at least, the phone-records scandal, partly because it involves the dear old A.P. and partly because it raises anew the specter of Big Brother, may well present the most serious threat to Obama’s reputation.”

* Reporter Sharyl Attkisson said in 2014 that her personal computer and CBS laptop were hacked after she began filing stories about Benghazi that were unflattering to the Obama administration. A source who checked her laptop said the hacker used spyware “proprietary to a government agency,” according to an article in the New York Post.

Update – WikiLeaks tweeted overnight that the Obama Administration spied on their journalists as well"


....and yet Snowflakes be like:



"How DARE Trump accuse Obama of ever wire-tapping anyone?! "



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lol they've fallen back to the criminal enterprise of wikileaks to aid their propaganda.

That is more irony than I can cope with!!!!!!!!

 

[easyt65]

lol they've fallen back to the criminal enterprise of wikileaks to aid their propaganda. That is more irony than I can cope with!!!!!!!!

Smart man not denying any of it, only giving that snide, ridiculous comment. Of course you can't handle having Obama's wore-tapping history brought up.

 

[mamooth]

I am not saying Obama definitely wire-tapped / had Trump wire-tapped. I am just saying there is enough evidence in Obama's history making it impossible for anyone to claim he was / is above doing so.

So by your standard, any president can be investigated for anything at any time, since they've all wiretapped somebody at some point.

Yet being a raging partisan hack, you only apply your standard selectively to Obama.

Your obvious double standard is obvious, which is why your standard is laughed at.

 

[Lewdog]

How many wiring tap threads is this for one poster? This must be a record. And there were those that thought some Libs had lost their rocker after Trump won the election, this beats that by a mile.

 

[OldLady]

From the OP:
The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged

That doesn't explain why Obama illegally spied on Congress.
I don't know what you're talking about.

Was any information collected about these journalists ever leaked to the press or anywhere else to discredit them or stop them from reporting? No? The FBI was after the leakers contacting the reporters. As I said, I'd bet that's happening right now, as we speak.

"From the OP:
The reporter, Fox News’ James Rosen and his family, were part of an investigation into government officials anonymously leaking information to journalists. Rosen was not charged"

Thank you for regurgitating the Obama administration's excuse / justification for labeling Rosin a 'threat' and a 'flight risk' (REALLY?!) so they could hack his computer and find out what the media was saying about them.

And you're saying Obama illegally collected personal data on Trump and his team, according to CNN, in the days before he left office ...what, in an attempt to find out who was leaking info - giving it to 16 Intel agencies where his appointed hold-overs illegally leaked the info after Trump became President....all for the 'good' of the country?

Whoa, you're doing that lying thing again, Easy. Obama never collected "personal data" on Trump and his team! There was a "tap" into a Trump owned server and a Russian bank, and as far as I know, even that has never been actually confirmed because all the sources had to remain anonymous due to the nature of their business. Don't be putting lies in anyone's mouth--especially mine.

 

[easyt65]

So by your standard, any president can be investigated for anything at any time, since they've all wiretapped somebody at some point.

No, snowflake - YOU said that.

 

[Rob37]

Obama is going to fucking prison before this is all over.