Spare_change
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If you offer $200 of anything, you already have a nanny state.
Here It Is---Trump's New Food Stamp Plan: A Basket Of U.S. Food, Direct To Your Doorstep!
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Silhouette
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No ******. I want a state where an expensive food program doesn't render out into an even more expensive healthcare loss. Again: it's called logic & wise investing. You want another deficit from stupid planning?
We have pigs chickens & goats who can live off of municipal wastes. We have fallow municipal lands that could be converted to truck produce farms. The wastes from the farms also can feed pigs chickens & goats for protein & eggs. These direct & fresh food sources will improve the health of the poor, cost less & cost less in healthcare.
Unless you're a lobbiest for the junk food industry keen on retaining subsidies for your company at the gross expense of everyone. Got stock in Frito lay rightwinger?
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No ******. I want a state where an expensive food program doesn't render out into an even more expensive healthcare loss. Again: it's called logic & wise investing. You want another deficit from stupid planning?
We have pigs chickens & goats who can live off of municipal wastes. We have fallow municipal lands that could be converted to truck produce farms. The wastes from the farms also can feed pigs chickens & goats for protein & eggs. These direct & fresh food sources will improve the health of the poor, cost less & cost less in healthcare.
Unless you're a lobbiest for the junk food industry keen on retaining subsidies for your company at the gross expense of everyone. Got stock in Frito lay rightwinger?
Nanny state
You take a $4000 a child tax deduction....maybe the state should monitor how you are feeding them
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That's a general tax deduction. We're talking about a nutrition program specifically. Would you argue that federal funding for education could also be spent on ponies at the track? Or are you going to quit shilling or lobbying for your stake in Frito-Lay continuing to get subsidies via the ebt program?
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Its a tax deduction specifically to you
What if you are taking that $4000 deduction and using it to buy crack?
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Lousy plan. The grocery store shelves would be looking like Venezuela within twenty years and the people who are doing the most bitching now about the poor will wondering what happen to all those products they used to be able to buy at the local grocery store if the local grocery store survives it all.
They do. Every bit as much as their brethren across the isle.
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There was no Welfare in (as I can recall) the late 1940s and the early 50s. In New York there was a program called Home Relief, which was manifest in the form of store-front Centers located in depressed areas of the City. People who were in need of assistance would go to their Center and be interviewed by an Investigator who determined their eligibility. If they needed rent money it was paid directly to the landlord by their Investigator. If they needed cash their eligibility was likewise determined and disbursed by the Investigator. Medical care was provided via the City's Health Department if there was legitimate need.
These Centers also were food banks where boxes of food were provided to those in genuine need. The Centers also conducted weekly cooking classes which taught the most economical use of the distributed food items. My aunt worked at the Red Hook Home Relief Center. Her title was "Counselor." Her job was ordering food items, packing and distributing boxes, and teaching a weekly cooking class on how to make the most of pasta, rice, lentils, beans, etc.
The very character of those Centers was obviously shaped by the Great Depression which spawned them. Compare their very nature to the present Welfare entity which consists of mailing out monthly checks and handing out booklets of food stamps. Clearly missing from the existing system is the social element which operated to charitably provide hand-to-hand assistance to the genuinely needy and deserving. It has been replaced by what is best described as a recognized and accepted Welfare class.
These Centers also were food banks where boxes of food were provided to those in genuine need. The Centers also conducted weekly cooking classes which taught the most economical use of the distributed food items. My aunt worked at the Red Hook Home Relief Center. Her title was "Counselor." Her job was ordering food items, packing and distributing boxes, and teaching a weekly cooking class on how to make the most of pasta, rice, lentils, beans, etc.
The very character of those Centers was obviously shaped by the Great Depression which spawned them. Compare their very nature to the present Welfare entity which consists of mailing out monthly checks and handing out booklets of food stamps. Clearly missing from the existing system is the social element which operated to charitably provide hand-to-hand assistance to the genuinely needy and deserving. It has been replaced by what is best described as a recognized and accepted Welfare class.
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So Trump will set up a whole new government program to deliver food to people.
What a great job of shrinking government!
Instead of changing food stamps so that they only work for the exact things that Trump wants poor people to be eating.
BlueGin
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Umm... it's the Mexican population that keeps Kmart in business.
jillian
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nice fantasy.
BlueGin
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I agree vouchers for those things. You can go to any grocery store or farmers market.
NYcarbineer
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Will there be a Food Stamp Prime guaranteeing 2 day delivery and free shipping!?
NYcarbineer
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For chrissakes Mr. Trump, you're a ******* billionaire. Find something better to do with your time than dream up insane schemes to **** with the poor people.
NYcarbineer
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This is what the Right ultimately envisions for America's poor:
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More liberal broad brush emotive horsesh*tThis is what the Right ultimately envisions for America's poor:
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Come on. We are talking about Republicans.
You don't seriously think Republicans would give anyone a basket of real food do you? They are Republicans. They would send out a basket of sh!t. Because that's what Republicans do. It's who they are. The honest ones admit it.
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Puerto Rico had infrastructure problems well before the Hurricane hit. Primarily decades of Lack of maintenance to their power grid and water system. I'm not going to bother with the links, anyone can look it up.
Hurricane response is not meant to replace what should have been taken care of for years, through proper diligence of elected officials.
As far as the food program goes, I don't really think a delivery system would work though, people still need to pick it up. There needs to be another method of eliminating the fraud I think
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