Here Comes The Quagmire

[g5000]

It was obvious the War Department (was that name change by our FIFA Peace Prize laureate foreshadowing, or what?) had no intention of regime change in Iran. This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

As I have pointed out continuously on this forum, if the original Iran Plan™ was regime change, the US would have forward deployed ground troops

Before anyone jumps the gun and claims there was regime change in Venezuela without troops...no. The same regime is in place, and the military there are hardcore Chavismos. Nothing has changed.

Trump and MAGA World are always trying to change definitions. Like "landslide" when you haven't even won 50 percent of the popular vote, ever. And he and MAGA World are going to try to redefine "regime change" and "victory".

But when you think regime change, think Iraq or Afghanistan or Nazi Germany. That's regime change.

Donald Trump is now at a crossroads. He has not achieved regime change. As soon as one head of government is killed, another pops up to take their place.

The worst case scenario here is that when enough Ayatollahs or other leaders are killed, there will be a military coup and Iran will be run by a strongman. And Trump loves him a strongman. He will actually consider this a victory.

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

So...

Sooner or later, Trump is going to have to quit...or deploy ground troops.

Ground troops would be the quagmire. When body bags begin piling up, that's the death of the economy, the Republican Party, and Donald Trump.


LINKS:

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

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Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran​

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[Natural Citizen]

I'm not really interested in another 200 billion dollar Israel tax at the barrel of a government gun.

So far as troops go, I was reading today that Netanyahu has already given his shine boy the directive that it will be American boots on the ground in Iran and not Israeli ones. Of course, that was predictable.

 

[Rocko]

This war would be worth it in the least if we decimate all of Iran’s military capabilities. Everything else would be icing on the cake.

 

[rightwinger]

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

Trump is basically lazy
He does not want to put in the work to generate real regime change that is favorable to the US
He thinks he can just bomb the crap out of a country, kill the leader and have a new regime take over that is motherhood and apple pie

What Iran will get is chaos and Civil War with 90 million lives at stake.

 

[g5000]

This war would be worth it in the least if we decimate all of Iran’s military capabilities.

It's okay. They'll make more.

And they will sell their oil to China in exchange for yuan and erode the US dollar as the world's reserve currency.

 

[Zincwarrior]

5,000 combat troops. We are going to be stuck in for a long time. MAGA!

 

[g5000]

5,000 combat troops. We are going to be stuck in for a long time. MAGA!

The Democrats would end up with a supermajority in the Senate and House. Enough to impeach and convict Trump.

 

[struth]

It was obvious the War Department (was that name change by our FIFA Peace Prize laureate foreshadowing, or what?) had no intention of regime change in Iran. This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

As I have pointed out continuously on this forum, if the original Iran Plan™ was regime change, the US would have forward deployed ground troops

Before anyone jumps the gun and claims there was regime change in Venezuela without troops...no. The same regime is in place, and the military there are hardcore Chavismos. Nothing has changed.

Trump and MAGA World are always trying to change definitions. Like "landslide" when you haven't even won 50 percent of the popular vote, ever. And he and MAGA World are going to try to redefine "regime change" and "victory".

But when you think regime change, think Iraq or Afghanistan or Nazi Germany. That's regime change.

Donald Trump is now at a crossroads. He has not achieved regime change. As soon as one head of government is killed, another pops up to take their place.

The worst case scenario here is that when enough Ayatollahs or other leaders are killed, there will be a military coup and Iran will be run by a strongman. And Trump loves him a strongman. He will actually consider this a victory.

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

So...

Sooner or later, Trump is going to have to quit...or deploy ground troops.

Ground troops would be the quagmire. When body bags begin piling up, that's the death of the economy, the Republican Party, and Donald Trump.


LINKS:

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

​

Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran​

​

If asking for 200 billion equates to a quagmire what does that say about hundreds of billions we sent to Ukraine since Obama decided to be more flexible with Putin?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

Yep.

The self interested, self dealing , malignant narcissist isnt going to 'change his stripes' at age 80. Especially not when he has one foot in the grave due to disease and is pondering his legacy.

 

[Zincwarrior]

If asking for 200 billion equates to a quagmire what does that say about hundreds of billions we sent to Ukraine since Obama decided to be more flexible with Putin?

Irrelevant. We are talking about the current admin and OUR BOYS you dicking Russobot.

 

[struth]

Irrelevant. We are talking about the current admin and OUR BOYS.

I thought we were discussing quagmires

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30/europe/american-fighters-ukraine-bodies-repatriation-intl-cmd

Last I checked we had no troops on the ground in Iran…so when you say our boys are you referring to the Iranian guard?

 

[Zincwarrior]

I thought we were discussing quagmires

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/30/europe/american-fighters-ukraine-bodies-repatriation-intl-cmd

Last I checked we had no troops on the ground in Iran…so when you say our boys are you referring to the Iranian guard?

You missed the TWO BRIGADES in transit. Quit looking at Fox News

 

[g5000]

The amphibious assault ship USS Tripoli is headed to the Persian Gulf with MEU 31 on board.

https://www.31stmeu.marines.mil/

 

[Captain Creeper]

Giggity!

 

[cnm]

The Democrats would end up with a supermajority in the Senate and House. Enough to impeach and convict Trump.

They will vote to fund the $200 billion.

 

[Robert W]

Trump is basically lazy
He does not want to put in the work to generate real regime change that is favorable to the US
He thinks he can just bomb the crap out of a country, kill the leader and have a new regime take over that is motherhood and apple pie

What Iran will get is chaos and Civil War with 90 million lives at stake.

Iran appreciates the help you and others give to them.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It was obvious the War Department (was that name change by our FIFA Peace Prize laureate foreshadowing, or what?) had no intention of regime change in Iran. This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

As I have pointed out continuously on this forum, if the original Iran Plan™ was regime change, the US would have forward deployed ground troops

Before anyone jumps the gun and claims there was regime change in Venezuela without troops...no. The same regime is in place, and the military there are hardcore Chavismos. Nothing has changed.

Trump and MAGA World are always trying to change definitions. Like "landslide" when you haven't even won 50 percent of the popular vote, ever. And he and MAGA World are going to try to redefine "regime change" and "victory".

But when you think regime change, think Iraq or Afghanistan or Nazi Germany. That's regime change.

Donald Trump is now at a crossroads. He has not achieved regime change. As soon as one head of government is killed, another pops up to take their place.

The worst case scenario here is that when enough Ayatollahs or other leaders are killed, there will be a military coup and Iran will be run by a strongman. And Trump loves him a strongman. He will actually consider this a victory.

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

So...

Sooner or later, Trump is going to have to quit...or deploy ground troops.

Ground troops would be the quagmire. When body bags begin piling up, that's the death of the economy, the Republican Party, and Donald Trump.


LINKS:

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

​

Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran​

​

I’m on board with ya G! I agree we should leave Iran. We should not be concerned about their nuclear or geopolitical ambitions.

 

[Invisibleflash]

It was obvious the War Department (was that name change by our FIFA Peace Prize laureate foreshadowing, or what?) had no intention of regime change in Iran. This exercise is just Trump flexing his sadistic impulses to blow things up like the strongmen he admires so much.

As I have pointed out continuously on this forum, if the original Iran Plan™ was regime change, the US would have forward deployed ground troops

Before anyone jumps the gun and claims there was regime change in Venezuela without troops...no. The same regime is in place, and the military there are hardcore Chavismos. Nothing has changed.

Trump and MAGA World are always trying to change definitions. Like "landslide" when you haven't even won 50 percent of the popular vote, ever. And he and MAGA World are going to try to redefine "regime change" and "victory".

But when you think regime change, think Iraq or Afghanistan or Nazi Germany. That's regime change.

Donald Trump is now at a crossroads. He has not achieved regime change. As soon as one head of government is killed, another pops up to take their place.

The worst case scenario here is that when enough Ayatollahs or other leaders are killed, there will be a military coup and Iran will be run by a strongman. And Trump loves him a strongman. He will actually consider this a victory.

At this juncture, Trump can simply "declare victory and leave", but that will just cause everyone to ROTFLMAO. And he clearly has no intention of declaring victory yet as he is requesting 200 billion more dollars to continue his boondoggle. We've already hit $1 trillion of federal deficit just five months into FY2026, in case you haven't noticed. MAGA hasn't noticed because they are deliberately kept from noticing or saying anything about it.

So...

Sooner or later, Trump is going to have to quit...or deploy ground troops.

Ground troops would be the quagmire. When body bags begin piling up, that's the death of the economy, the Republican Party, and Donald Trump.


LINKS:

Pentagon seeks more than $200 billion in budget request for Iran war​

​

Trump administration making heavy preparations for potential use of ground troops in Iran​

​

Trump don't care about all that. He just shoots from the hip.

 

[Robert W]

The Democrats would end up with a supermajority in the Senate and House. Enough to impeach and convict Trump.

Democrats fare poorly with the public. Propose solutions and stop being problems. Iran appreciates all the help you give to them.

 

[ThisIsMe]

I'm not really interested in another 200 billion dollar Israel tax at the barrel of a government gun.

So far as troops go, I was reading today that Netanyahu has already given his shine boy the directive that it will be American boots on the ground in Iran and not Israeli ones. Of course, that was predictable.

Death to Israel!