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J4J is a Christian organization.
The issue has nothing to do with point of view. It has a great deal more to do with whether they are factually accurate.Of course they'll argue from that PoV.
Irrelevant.Because their only goal is to convert Jews to Christianity. They are Christian. They are an offshoot of Baptists. Their scholarship on Jewish subjects will always be biased through a Christian lens.
They are not accurate. None of the translations and interpretation of Isaiah purporting to be about the coming of Jesus are.Thank you captain obvious. Already covered.
The issue has nothing to do with point of view. It has a great deal more to do with whether they are factually accurate.
I am a fan of the New York Yankees. If I report that they have been playing very well lately, that’s just a fact. Nothing to do with POV.
Sorry. But I don’t believe in soothsayers and I don’t buy your spin. Back then someone or something (perhaps just a dream) informed Isaiah that God would provide a sign and the sign would be that a young woman of marriageable age (presumably a virgin) would give birth to the Messiah. He shared it.They are not accurate. None of the translations and interpretation of Isaiah purporting to be about the coming of Jesus are.
To understand, you must understand that the Prophets were not soothsayers. They were more like today's pundits. They ranted at their contemporaries to change their ways or face some consequences. And if you read Isaiah, you will see that fater/son, mother/son is a common metaphor for God's relationship with Israel.
It's not spin. It is from reading the text in the original, and discussing with Torah scholars who also read in the original. And understanding the context.Sorry. But I don’t believe in soothsayers and I don’t buy your spin. Back then someone or something (perhaps just a dream) informed Isaiah that God would provide a sign and the sign would be that a young woman of marriageable age (presumably a virgin) would give birth to the Messiah. He shared it.
Joseph had a dream, too, so it said.
I didn’t know “us” is Hebrew. Good to know. Oy Vey!!!
It’s so obvious that God is speaking to others. It’s plural dufus. And God and Lord God are two separate beings. One a little lower than the other. And, it wasn’t translated from Hebrew. Get over yourself.
They are not accurate. None of the translations and interpretation of Isaiah purporting to be about the coming of Jesus are.
To understand, you must understand that the Prophets were not soothsayers. They were more like today's pundits. They ranted at their contemporaries to change their ways or face some consequences. And if you read Isaiah, you will see that fater/son, mother/son is a common metaphor for God's relationship with Israel.
Sorry. But I don’t believe in soothsayers and I don’t buy your spin. Back then someone or something (perhaps just a dream) informed Isaiah that God would provide a sign and the sign would be that a young woman of marriageable age (presumably a virgin) would give birth to the Messiah. He shared it.
Joseph had a dream, too, so it said.
Anyone who actually has spoken directly to either one. They call them prophets and apostles. Joseph Smith was such a prophet.God and Lord God are separate? Who teaches that?
Anyone who actually has spoken directly to either one. They call them prophets and apostles. Joseph Smith was such a prophet.
So, I learn from prophets and apostles of today. Sorry so many are stuck in the past going off of so-called scholars and their limited information and understanding of things 2-6,000 years ago.
This will occur at the second coming of Christ
Christ will come and reign for 1000 years at is second coming
He is the king who will come and sit upon the throne of David and rule for 1000 years.
After Jesus saves the Jews at his second coming, those who survive the tribulation will then worship him.
a Millennial prophesy after his second coming.
Again this will occur during his 1000 year Millennial reign.
Another Millennial prophesy
To be alive after Christ makes his second coming will truly be glorious.
Prophets weren't fortune tellers. They were astute observers and the conscience of the community.
No, they did not. They were more like pundits. They told the people of the possible outcome if they did not change their ways. They did not predict events hundreds of year in the future. Read the prophets. In their entirety. In the original language,Why do you lie? They spoke for God and foretold future events. Lord you need theological help.
No, they did not. They were more like pundits. They told the people of the possible outcome if they did not change their ways. They did not predict events hundreds of year in the future. Read the prophets. In their entirety. In the original language,
FREE CHOICE-----makes man---MAN. Free choice is the MISTAKE MAGNUS ofLOL, another one. Go sit with surada in the corner.
Yeah, another one who has studied the texts for decades. In context and in Hebrew.LOL, another one. Go sit with surada in the corner.
FREE CHOICE-----makes man---MAN. Free choice is the MISTAKE MAGNUS of
CREATION-----it took the future out of uhm...."GOD'S" "hands"
Yeah, another one who has studied the texts for decades. In context and in Hebrew.
Are you seriously trying to tell Jews what our texts mean? You can't even read them properly.....and yet remains illiterate. All these years and I've on run into 2 people who believe that way. You are dismissed.
Wrong and incomplete. Yes, they are "fortune tellers." But, you don't obviously know the definition of a fortune teller. Prophets are communicators with God, seers of the future and revelators giving new information on past, present and future.Prophets weren't fortune tellers. They were astute observers and the conscience of the community.
