“Hell yes we are going to take your AR-15”

[LeftofLeft]

I have no doubt that is exactly how it finishes in your fantasy world.

As I have no doubt that in your fantasy it ends with 3 day lines for toilet paper and starving peasants eating zoo Animals. But you nor any other Nazi here can explain just how you're going to pull this off? You're just going to tell the peasants to disarm and they'll be say "Yaza massa suh, we sho nuff gunna scrap and bow to ewe"

So you pass an unconstitutional law, then what?

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

 

[BULLDOG]

As I have no doubt that in your fantasy it ends with 3 day lines for toilet paper and starving peasants eating zoo Animals. But you nor any other Nazi here can explain just how you're going to pull this off? You're just going to tell the peasants to disarm and they'll be say "Yaza massa suh, we sho nuff gunna scrap and bow to ewe"

So you pass an unconstitutional law, then what?

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

Nope.

 

[Rigby5]

Anyone attempting to confiscate legally purchased guns is an idiot and a traitor.
The Constitution clearly forbids Ex Post Facto laws that try to criminalize things with have been previously purchased legally.
And clearly the only solution to violent people who would cause harm to others is arrest and restrain them, not pretend it is possible to render them safe by making all weapons access for them illegal.
No one intending murder is going to at all be deterred by a lesser charge.
So then the goal can NOT be to reduce violence, but instead to increase government violence, coercion and intimidation.
Any government that would do that is fatally corrupt and must be destroyed, at all costs.
We must protect the democratic republic by whatever it takes.

 

[BluesLegend]

No you didn't, any law abiding citizen can apply for the tax stamp and own one.

Well who do you think did limit access to fully automatic weapons?

Nobody limited access. You are not the brightest bulb are you.

You think there is the same access to fully auto weapons as there is to ar15s? Really?

Sure is, does that trigger you snowflake?

Yep. You're still nuts. No, fully automatic weapons are not as accessible as other types of guns.

^^^ and the libtard outed for being a stupid shit moves the goal posts.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

Big difference between a democrat and a Nazi thug. Oh wait, there is no difference at all....

 

[Rigby5]

Go ahead an introduce an amendment repealing the 2nd Amendment. Right now! Do it, and see how far you get!

What possible reason would anyone have to do that? It didn't take an amendment to get fully automatic weapons off the street.

That's funny! I can buy a fully automatic weapon at any number of gun stores in my local area. You are an idiot of the highest caliber!

You have now reached the credibility point of an idiot who argues that the world is flat. While there is a rout for an average person to own a fully automatic weapon, they are no where near as accessible as other types of guns. I'll leave you to your silly babbling now.

You said it was impossible or words to that effect. Failure!

Please point to the post where I said impossible, or words to that effect.

You said, "What possible reason would anyone have to do that? It didn't take an amendment to get fully automatic weapons off the street.."
That is not totally accurate.
Fully automatic weapons were cheap and available mail order after WWI, with Thompson machineguns going for less than $30, but almost no one wanted them. The only reason they became a problem was Prohibition, which caused large amounts of unprotected cash and turf wars. The problem was not Thompson machineguns, but that Prohibition of Alcohol was illegal and irrational.
While we then did pass laws to make machineguns more difficult to buy legally, they are still cheap and easy to obtain illegally, and the laws never had anything at all to do with their small number on the street. The reality is they are hard to conceal, so are almost never used in crime.
So your claim that laws succeeded with fully automatic weapons is just wrong.
And even more important is the fact that federal gun laws are also inherently illegal.
While people accepted them due to the bad media coverage of things like the St. Valentines day massacre, the reality is that no federal weapons law has ever been legal, they were never a good idea, and they never improved anything.
So in general your claim was wrong, that more federal laws helped in the past.
That is not accurate that federal laws helped, nor are things better now.
Weapons are supposed to be under state and local jurisdiction only.
It would be like the EU suddenly made strict gun laws in Europe, totally violating the sovereignty of countries like Switzerland that do not have strict gun laws.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Anyone attempting to confiscate legally purchased guns is an idiot and a traitor.
The Constitution clearly forbids Ex Post Facto laws that try to criminalize things with have been previously purchased legally.
And clearly the only solution to violent people who would cause harm to others is arrest and restrain them, not pretend it is possible to render them safe by making all weapons access for them illegal.
No one intending murder is going to at all be deterred by a lesser charge.
So then the goal can NOT be to reduce violence, but instead to increase government violence, coercion and intimidation.
Any government that would do that is fatally corrupt and must be destroyed, at all costs.
We must protect the democratic republic by whatever it takes.

What's a Crip or a Blood without their full auto Uzi? That's why the Communist focus on the AR15, legitimate Americans own those. The killings in Chicago every weekend are done with Mac-10, MP-5, and Uzi's. Small, cheap, fully automatic, bought from China or Eastern Europe.

 

[Rigby5]

That's funny! I can buy a fully automatic weapon at any number of gun stores in my local area. You are an idiot of the highest caliber!

You have now reached the credibility point of an idiot who argues that the world is flat. While there is a rout for an average person to own a fully automatic weapon, they are no where near as accessible as other types of guns. I'll leave you to your silly babbling now.

You said it was impossible or words to that effect. Failure!

Please point to the post where I said impossible, or words to that effect.

"It didn't take an amendment to get fully automatic weapons off the street."

There! Automatic weapons are not "off the street". You are either in error or you lied.

You saying that doesn't make it true. I'm surprised you would make such an obviously dumb remark. On second thought, I'm not that surprised.

About the only time assault weapons were used in a crime was the failed LA bank robbery.
They used AK-47s, that were fully automatic.
But anyone can easily convert most rifles or pistols to fully automatic if they want to.
It is not hard.
But almost no one wants to.
About the only case where anyone bothered was Pollard in Las Vegas, and he could not even see the individuals he was shooting.
Although it is odd that Beto attacks ARs, considering that they are likely the single hardest to make full auto.
The laws making full auto more expensive to own accomplished nothing.
No one intent on using a full auto weapon is at all going to be deterred by the minor additional penalty for having a full auto weapon illegally.
There just is no logic to the claims and they are "feel good" platitudes used by some to manipulate others.
I won't say "lie" because you likely believed what you wrote, but now that I have pointed out the truth, you should reconsider the lack of logic to your beliefs you got from others.
Then consider why others told you these claims in the first place?
Why would government want a monopoly on the means of empowering a democratic republic?

 

[Rigby5]

I have no doubt that is exactly how it finishes in your fantasy world.

As I have no doubt that in your fantasy it ends with 3 day lines for toilet paper and starving peasants eating zoo Animals. But you nor any other Nazi here can explain just how you're going to pull this off? You're just going to tell the peasants to disarm and they'll be say "Yaza massa suh, we sho nuff gunna scrap and bow to ewe"

So you pass an unconstitutional law, then what?

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

Not in the eyes of autocratic government that wants the general population to be unable to resist tyranny.
The fact police and military are given firearms is proof they are necessary.
And anyone who believes the government can be trusted with weapons more than the general public, is a traitor to the democratic republic.

 

[Rigby5]

Anyone attempting to confiscate legally purchased guns is an idiot and a traitor.
The Constitution clearly forbids Ex Post Facto laws that try to criminalize things with have been previously purchased legally.
And clearly the only solution to violent people who would cause harm to others is arrest and restrain them, not pretend it is possible to render them safe by making all weapons access for them illegal.
No one intending murder is going to at all be deterred by a lesser charge.
So then the goal can NOT be to reduce violence, but instead to increase government violence, coercion and intimidation.
Any government that would do that is fatally corrupt and must be destroyed, at all costs.
We must protect the democratic republic by whatever it takes.

What's a Crip or a Blood without their full auto Uzi? That's why the Communist focus on the AR15, legitimate Americans own those. The killings in Chicago every weekend are done with Mac-10, MP-5, and Uzi's. Small, cheap, fully automatic, bought from China or Eastern Europe.

End the War on Drugs by legalization, and I am pretty sure the problem of 90% of the murders due to the War on Drugs will go away, without having to pass any more draconian gun laws.
If we look at statistics, the last shooting spike before the War on Drugs, was from Prohibition. We should have learned something from these obvious statistical correlations. It is pretty clear it is the federal laws that are the causation of these shooting spikes.

 

[Lesh]

As I have no doubt that in your fantasy it ends with 3 day lines for toilet paper and starving peasants eating zoo Animals. But you nor any other Nazi here can explain just how you're going to pull this off? You're just going to tell the peasants to disarm and they'll be say "Yaza massa suh, we sho nuff gunna scrap and bow to ewe"

So you pass an unconstitutional law, then what?

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

 

[Uncensored2008]

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

Yeah, but your's all have cords and hook to your XBox....

 

[LeftofLeft]

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

Check with Leftists... they will tell you yes or no and also send your address to Beto.

 

[Lesh]

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

Yeah, but your's all have cords and hook to your XBox....

How do I hook my 870 up to an Xbox?

 

[Rigby5]

How did they get fully auto weapons off the street?

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

I not only own about 6, but consider that all leftest must always be armed.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn explains it well.

No one that believes in individual liberties or a democratic republic can ever allow government to have a monopoly on the means of power.

 

[Rigby5]

They didn't. There are still fully automatic weapons on the street. It something you Nazis just can't grasp, criminals don't care much about the laws you pass, Otherwise you would just make a law against mass shootings and be done with it.

You can see it in the eyes of the anti-gun crowd. They rage about the mass shooting at hand and their vitriol is at the John Q. Public gun owner. They also have no problem with their liberal elite Hollywood gods putting out content after content of gun violence being glorified.

Big difference between a gun owner and a gun nut. They are not the same.

I sincerely thank you for noting that difference. The problem is that most Leftist wingnuts believe anyone who owns a gun is a gun nut.

I own four. I guess I'm not a leftist huh?

Check with Leftists... they will tell you yes or no and also send your address to Beto.

The right is where the history of gun control comes from, with the left trying to arm labor organizers, civil rights organizers, immigrants, etc., from attacks by organizations like the KKK.
The government is always inclined to the right, and is controlled mostly by the wealthy corporations.
The only way for a left to exist is to resist gun control attempts.

 

[rightwinger]

The fact that 32,000 Americans are killed by guns each year pisses us off. 20 six year olds killed at Sandy Hook pisses us off

The fact that you have to blatantly lie is proof of how weak the position of you fascists is.

Gun violence since 1980 is DOWN 32%. That's third less murders and robberies for you Marxists who are intellectually challenged.

11,208 Americans were murdered in 2017 using a firearm, a far cry from your ******* lie of 32,000. Of those, 10,741 were murdered by a handgun, meaning less than 500 by ANY type of rifle or shotgun. Those killed by the AR-15 you so blatantly lie about are less than 100, considering all the mass shootings as well.

Look, you have zero integrity, not a hint or shred - you are a sociopathic scumbag, a reprehensible pig with no honor. We get it. You are at war to end civil rights. All that is needed for pile of shit democrats to get away with lies is for good men not to post facts.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

Guess you are right

To make any real impact on gun violence, we need to go after handguns before AR15s

 

[Uncensored2008]

The fact that 32,000 Americans are killed by guns each year pisses us off. 20 six year olds killed at Sandy Hook pisses us off

The fact that you have to blatantly lie is proof of how weak the position of you fascists is.

Gun violence since 1980 is DOWN 32%. That's third less murders and robberies for you Marxists who are intellectually challenged.

11,208 Americans were murdered in 2017 using a firearm, a far cry from your ******* lie of 32,000. Of those, 10,741 were murdered by a handgun, meaning less than 500 by ANY type of rifle or shotgun. Those killed by the AR-15 you so blatantly lie about are less than 100, considering all the mass shootings as well.

Look, you have zero integrity, not a hint or shred - you are a sociopathic scumbag, a reprehensible pig with no honor. We get it. You are at war to end civil rights. All that is needed for pile of shit democrats to get away with lies is for good men not to post facts.

Gun violence in the United States - Wikipedia

Guess you are right

To make any real impact on gun violence, we need to go after handguns before AR15s

But you need to get both before you can end the 1st Amendment, your real goal.

 

[pismoe]

the problem with going after handguns first is that if you get the handgun the Real Americans still have the more Effective and Efficient Rifles in their procession . Plus even wishy washy FUDDS and moderate gun owners would [should] be fully alerted as to Gov and liberals plans to totally disarm gunowners RWinger . I think that libs going after rifles first is the smart way though . Course I disagree with going after any guns in the USA RWinger .

 

[iceberg]

it's just funny we've gone from WE ARE NOT COMING FOR YOUR GUNS to HELL YEA WE'RE GONNA TAKE 'EM!!!

the ironic part is the anti-gun crowd started out thinking the AR15 was fully automatic. the media fed that ignorance 24x7. the anti-gunners eat it up cause they don't want to understand, they just want what they want. but unfortunately the more the anti-gunners learn, the more they just want all guns gone cause they can't define "assault rifle" outside their emotional force field.

when you debate the issue and ask how it's different, their frustration sets in and they just want all semi-automatic guns gone now.

but they're not coming for gun and just want "common sense" when that in fact is the last thing they have cause they refuse to learn, just broaden their definition and demands.