Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[JimH52]

The MAGA NAZI/Racist are taking over the party.

 

[JimH52]

The goal of the modern left is to tear down western civilization.


America is the leader of that, so they really hate US.

and trump uses Poootin's foreign policy.

 

[Correll]

Wrong. If you didn't agree with Vietnam you can't honor Vietnam veterans?
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Leftards will say the most retarded shit and stand by it, no matter HOW ******* retarded it makes them look.

THey are utterly soulless sociopaths.

 

[Unkotare]

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If you choose to display the Confederate flag and pray to Robert E Lee, you are free to do so.
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"Pray"? Who does that?

 

[Unkotare]

To blacks, the Confederacy represents a nation formed to ...

The so-called confederacy was never a nation.

 

[Correll]

"Pray"? Who does that?

Lefties just say stupid shit.

 

[Correll]

The so-called confederacy was never a nation.

The leftard is too historically ignorant to realize that he is supporting the ideas and argument of the confederacy.

ie that they did have the right to seceed and that their secession was thus legal and they were indeed a legitimate and seperate government, and that the war was thus a "War of Northern Agression".


He doesn't have the self awareness to get the irony.

 

[rightwinger]

And again, we see the point. You consider blacks to be morally superior to whites and to have the PRIVILEGE of passing judgement on whites.

That is you admitting that "multiculturalism" is NOT about different cultures all living in tolerance and equality,

The subjugation of blacks was the reason for the Confederacy
Not a reason for whites to celebrate.

 

[rightwinger]

And here you are spamming a retarded point that was repeatedly addressed.

You are retarded.

You are being retarded becasue that is the ONLY way, to justify your giving blacks moral authority over whites, you racist piece of shit.

You have yet to defend your affection for an evil society

What about the Confederacy is worth honoring?
Still waiting

I am sorry but personal insults are not an answer. I have responded respectfully to you.

 

[SweetTea]

The subjugation of blacks was the reason for the Confederacy
Not a reason for whites to celebrate.

You have been indoctrinated to believe that because that is the narrative that the left wants to project. Indeed, many Southerners were fighting to protect their homestead and state which was being invaded. That is an undeniable fact.

 

[rightwinger]

Wrong. If you didn't agree with Vietnam you can't honor Vietnam veterans?

Again, many Southerners were literally defending thie homestead as Union soldiers burned and stole. Such is war, and I dont fault the Union soldiers, but dont pretend that all Southerners were all fighting to protect slavery. That simply wasnt the case.

I have no issue with honoring the dead
Even Germany honors those who died in WWII but they never honor the Nazis

In the South, they honor Confederate heroes, wave the Confederate flag, Celebrate Lees birthday
Some states celebrate Lees Birthday instead of Martin Luther Kings Birthday

 

[rightwinger]

Here you are spamming another point that has been repeatedly addressed.

You are a retard and an asshole.

Again you substitute personal insults instead of making a credible argument

Shows you have lost the argument

 

[rightwinger]

All you are doing now is spamming stupid shit that was already addressed over and over.

You are doing it, because you think that you are doing the logical fallacy of argument by assertion as a form of political propaganda.


In response to that, pointing out that you are just spamming and that you are a retarded asshole, is the correct response.

The discussion reached a point where it was very clear that you support anti-white discrimination and I want racial equality,

so go **** yourself.

I have made very cogent points about why the Confederacy was evil and not worthy of celebration.
You are the one spamming with personal insults

Shows you are incapable of defending your position

 

[OODA_Loop]

The subjugation of blacks was the reason for the Confederacy
Not a reason for whites to celebrate.

There were free blacks in the South.


Free Blacks in Virginia numbered 58,042 on the eve of the American Civil War (1861–1865), or about 44 percent of the future Confederacy’s free Black population. Of the slave states, only Maryland had a larger population, with 83,942.

Free Blacks during the Civil War - Encyclopedia Virginia

Free Blacks Under Confederate Authority During the war, free Blacks in Virginia suffered the usual oppressions of a slave society. They could not vote or hold office or even testify against whites in courts of law. They were required to carry certification of their free status and were liable to...

encyclopediavirginia.org

 

[rightwinger]

I repeatedly answered that question. YOu are spamming a "point" that was repeatedly addressed, and you are being a smug asshole about it.

Thus, pointing out that you are spamming and then personally insulting you, is the proper response.

You retarded asshole.


This discussion, if anyone wants to go back to review it, demonstrated that your side's position is one based solely on anti-white racism and oppression, and mine is based on racial equality.


Also, that multiculturalism has utterly failed, and needs to be shit canned immediately.

You keep demonstrating you have no valid argument
Personal insults is not an argument

 

[rightwinger]

There were free blacks in the South.


Free Blacks in Virginia numbered 58,042 on the eve of the American Civil War (1861–1865), or about 44 percent of the future Confederacy’s free Black population. Of the slave states, only Maryland had a larger population, with 83,942.

Free Blacks during the Civil War - Encyclopedia Virginia

Free Blacks Under Confederate Authority During the war, free Blacks in Virginia suffered the usual oppressions of a slave society. They could not vote or hold office or even testify against whites in courts of law. They were required to carry certification of their free status and were liable to...

encyclopediavirginia.org

There were close to four million slaves in the south in 1860 almost 40 percent of the southern population
The southern economy was built on free labor and secession was an attempt to preserve that economic model.

 

[OODA_Loop]

There were close to four million slaves in the south in 1860 almost 40 percent of the southern population
The southern economy was built on free labor and secession was an attempt to preserve that economic model.

Slavery was legal and Constitutionally supported. There wasn't the political will or votes to abolish it in accordance with Constitutional process.

 

[rightwinger]

Slavery was legal and Constitutionally supported. There wasn't the political will or votes to abolish it in accordance with Constitutional process.

All the more reason why the secession of southern states was not warranted. They were not in danger of losing their slaves but listened to the hotheads who said the election of Lincoln meant the end of slavery.

 

[OODA_Loop]

All the more reason why the secession of southern states was not warranted. They were not in danger of losing their slaves but listened to the hotheads who said the election of Lincoln meant the end of slavery.

If you can take the engine of my economy outside of the legal process......you can do anything to me without due process and thus the reason for secession.

 

[rightwinger]

These are the memorials that should have been erected after the Civil War.
Towns and cities throughout the south should have celebrated the freedom of 40 percent of their population…….NOT those who fought to keep them as slaves