Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery

[rightwinger]

More like not ignoring and censoring history.

Nothing is being censored
Discussing the southern legacy of slavery and segregation is not ignoring it

It is Trump demanding it not be discussed

 

[rightwinger]

AMERICA had disagreed with you for over 150 years. including the generation that actually defeated the confedates.

Get over it, retard.

After the Civil War, America turned its back on the rights of its black citizens. In the name of “unity” they were willing to allow terrorism and official mistreatment of its blacks

 

[Delldude]

After the Civil War, America turned its back on the rights of its black citizens. In the name of “unity” they were willing to allow terrorism and official mistreatment of its blacks

Mostly the one's who lost.

 

[EMH]

After the Civil War, America turned its back on the rights of its black citizens. In the name of “unity” they were willing to allow terrorism and official mistreatment of its blacks

Only because Jew John Wilkes Booth shot Lincoln to install Jew Andrew Johnson.

 

[longly]

Most of the world voluntarily gave it up
The US insisted on fighting to the death and killing 600,00

I'm afraid you're mistaken again. Most of the world did not voluntarily give up slavery. A large portion of the globe at the time was under the control of the British Empire, which abolished slavery in 1833—after decades of activism, economic shifts, and fear of uprisings—not pure moral awakening.

France abolished slavery in its colonies in 1794, reinstated it under Napoleon in 1802, and finally abolished it again in 1848. Even then, enforcement was uneven, and slavery persisted in parts of French West Africa until the early 20th century.

In sub-Saharan Africa, slavery did not officially end until European colonial powers waged military crusades and established colonies and protectorates to suppress it. Mauritania, which was not targeted, for example, didn’t formally abolish slavery until 1981, and it wasn’t criminalized until 2007. In many regions, slavery ended only under external pressure, not voluntary reform.

So no, most of the world did not give up slavery voluntarily. England and France led anti-slavery movements, but even those were driven by a mix of economic, political, and military factors. And in the United States, only the Northern states abolished slavery peacefully.

 

[Correll]

After the Civil War, America turned its back on the rights of its black citizens. In the name of “unity” they were willing to allow terrorism and official mistreatment of its blacks

After the civil war the focus of American politics was not about blacks. Other shit was going on.

This clashes with the narrative that you want to spin.

But it is the actual history, the real history.

The civil war was about freeing the blacks. But not everything is about the blacks.

YOu made a claim, a number of claims about how, in your opinion, it was ok to "honor your dead".

I pointed out that America has for 160 years, clearly disagreed with you.


What you would do here, if you were serious about what you pretend to be serious about, is to ADMIT that you were wrong about that, adn that AMERICAN HISTORY, accepts teh south celebrating and honoring it's dead soldiers.


you are making an issue of this TODAY, not becasue it is important, but solely because it gives you an excuse to DIVIDE Americans against each other and to spread hate and racial division.


YOU are looking to cause harm to America and Americans, by picking at wounds long, long healed.


you are a bad person. Doing bad shit.

 

[rightwinger]

What you would do here, if you were serious about what you pretend to be serious about, is to ADMIT that you were wrong about that, adn that AMERICAN HISTORY, accepts teh south celebrating and honoring it's dead soldiers.

Again you are gaslighting Southern celebrating the confederacy.

It goes way beyond honoring the dead.

Confederate flags and the erection of monuments to confederate heroes has been used to give the finger to blacks seeking civil rights. THIS is what we think of you

I fail to see how this is the heritage the South chooses to celebrate. A nation formed to ensure the existence of slavery, a nation that was 40 percent slave, a heritage of Jim Crow and terrorism against blacks

 

[Correll]

Again you are gaslighting Southern celebrating the confederacy.

It goes way beyond honoring the dead.

Confederate flags and the erection of monuments to confederate heroes has been used to give the finger to blacks seeking civil rights. THIS is what we think of you

I fail to see how this is the heritage the South chooses to celebrate. A nation formed to ensure the existence of slavery, a nation that was 40 percent slave, a heritage of Jim Crow and terrorism against blacks

That is clearly a retarded view of the monumtents.


When they were erected, JIM CROW was in full swing. No one needed statues in the park to "give a finger" to blacks seeking civil rights.


They had cops with guns and the klan with lynchings, to give those blacks a REAL answer, one that would shut them up, or put them down, for real.


A statue to some long dead soldiers, the fathers or grandfathers of the people putting them up, was about remembering their fallen family and community members and their service.


Which is fine. Only a ******* asshole would make an issue about it, then or now.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Putting monuments to the enemies of the nation in the national cemetery.

What's next? Statues of hitler?

Learn from the past or repeat it. You morons refuse to understand this.

George Orwell warned us about this kind of shit.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”​

― George Orwell, 1984

 

[rightwinger]

That is clearly a retarded view of the monumtents.

Purpose and Ideology

The Daughters of the Confederacy were not simply commemorating the past—they were actively shaping the historical narrative:

• They promoted the Lost Cause ideology, which reframed the Civil War as a noble struggle for states’ rights rather than an effort to preserve slavery.
• Many monuments and markers downplayed slavery or portrayed enslaved people as “faithful,” supporting a whitewashed version of history.

 

[Correll]

Purpose and Ideology

The Daughters of the Confederacy were not simply commemorating the past—they were actively shaping the historical narrative:

• They promoted the Lost Cause ideology, which reframed the Civil War as a noble struggle for states’ rights rather than an effort to preserve slavery.
• Many monuments and markers downplayed slavery or portrayed enslaved people as “faithful,” supporting a whitewashed version of history.

Wow. THe DAUGHTERS, of the confederate soliders wanted to put a positive spin on their fathers' military service?

What a shock. I am shocked.


To, you, this is worth getting mad about TODAY?


bullshit. This is about you trying to "cancel" your political enemies. This is about power TODAY.

You want it, you are trying to excerize it.


YOu did have it. When you tore down teh statues and renamed shit. But we are putting them back up and changing the names BACK.


MAGA has the power today adn we are using it against your shit.


Suck it up buttercup.

 

[rightwinger]

Wow. THe DAUGHTERS, of the confederate soliders wanted to put a positive spin on their fathers' military service?

They wanted to rewrite the narrative
The war was about states rights
Slavery was not that bad, they liked it
It was the Union that was the bad guys

The monuments, celebrations, holidays coincided with the rise of Civil Rights
Along with the Klan

 

[Nostra]

Yes, absolutely.

In fact, they were much worse.

They enslaved human beings for CENTURIES. They were TRAITORS who caused a Civil War. And long after slavery was finally abolished, they continued the same practices under Jim Crow for another 100 years.

The Nazis were a flash in the pan compared to the slave masters.

The same schizos who fly the Confederate flag and defend Confederate monuments are the same idiots who think they are clever when they start timeworn monthly topics to say Confederates were Democrats.

With absolutely no cognitive dissonance whatsoever.

.

Racists like you want to erase history so you can repeat it.

Scumbag.

 

[Nostra]

Fighting for slavery is moral?

Who is doing that? I mean, besides in African countries these days.

 

[Crepitus]

Learn from the past or repeat it. You morons refuse to understand this.

George Orwell warned us about this kind of shit.

“Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.”​

― George Orwell, 1984

 

[Astrostar]

Hegseth defends returning Confederate monument removed by ‘woke lemmings’ to Arlington National Cemetery

The Reconciliation Monument was removed from Arlington National Cemetery in 2023.

www.al.com

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth backed up his decision to return a Confederate monument to Arlington National Cemetery removed by “the woke lemmings” who have erased Confederate symbols from American culture.

The Reconciliation Monument, a memorial to the Confederacy, was removed from Arlington National Cemetery in Virginia in 2023.

Hegseth explained his decision to bring back the monument to Arlington during a Fox News appearance Thursday afternoon.

“Because we recognize our history, we don’t erase it. We don’t follow the woke lemmings off the cliff that want to tear down statues,” the secretary said.

Good. That's American history. Sadly the dems made it into a political/ethnic issue.

Whether you agree or disagree with the government in charge, the soldiers fought for their states.

Union or confederate they should be honored. And hopefully remembered so similar events won’t repeat themselves.

It fits Republican ideology. They support losing causes, I.e., the confederacy, slavery, Trump, etc...

 

[Nostra]

It fits Republican ideology. They support losing causes, I.e., the confederacy, slavery, Trump, etc...

A Republican freed the slaves, and Trump won twice, Dumbass.

 

[Correll]

They wanted to rewrite the narrative
The war was about states rights
Slavery was not that bad, they liked it
It was the Union that was the bad guys

The monuments, celebrations, holidays coincided with the rise of Civil Rights
Along with the Klan

"COINCIDED"?

YOU mean, like these two events happened during the same time frame?


Maybe. Does not prove a connection.


It makes complete sense that a community that lost men at the rate that the south lost men in that war, would want memorials to remember them and their service.


For generations, the rest of the country was fine with that.


You are a hateful, bigoted piece of shit.

 

[rightwinger]

It makes complete sense that a community that lost men at the rate that the south lost men in that war, would want memorials to remember them and their service.

Again you try to gaslight us into believing confederate memorials were there only to honor the dead.

Those memorials honor the Confederacy
They honor Jeff Davis, Lee, Jackson and other leaders
US Army forts honor Confederate Generals not Union Generals
The South has state holidays for Jeff Davis and Lees Birthday
They still proudly fly the Rebel Flag

That is not honoring the dead

 

[Nostra]

Again you try to gaslight us into believing confederate memorials were there only to honor the dead.

Those memorials honor the Confederacy
They honor Jeff Davis, Lee, Jackson and other leaders
US Army forts honor Confederate Generals not Union Generals
The South has state holidays for Jeff Davis and Lees Birthday
They still proudly fly the Rebel Flag

That is not honoring the dead

Your Cult wants to erase your racist history so you can repeat it.