Heather Heyer Did Not Die From Getting Hit By Field's Car, But From A Heart Attack

[Lewdog]

Sorry but the crowd was not innocent, they were very angry and hostile towards anyone who seemed out of place.

The crowd was innocent of anything that would justify someone running into them with their car.

How 'bout violent intimidation for starters?

The crowd "violently intimidated" the driver of the car, and that provided justification to run them down? Really? How does that work, exactly? The driver saw someone looking at him with a dangerous glint in their eye, so he's now justified in driving his car into that person?

The one person who actually did anything to the car before it crashed into the crowd wasn't one of the people the car ran into. That's the only person you might reasonably claim intimidated the driver in such a way as to merit being driven into. Even with that person, it is only barely reasonable to make such a claim; the rest of the crowd did nothing at all to the driver to justify his running into them.

I think the main point that needed to be made, you already said. If he was scared for his safety, he would have just slammed his car into reverse like he did after running into the crowd... he wouldn't have driven into more danger.

Why can't you people just admit you're wrong and I am right? Your hypocrisy is overwhelming.

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

 

[impuretrash]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

 

[Lewdog]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

 

[impuretrash]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

 

[Lewdog]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Nope, I've never backed BLM protesters. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

 

[impuretrash]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Nope, I've never backed BLM protesters. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

'He's alt-left! He's alt-left!'
'Yeah he is! Commie motherfucker right there!'
'Take his phone! Take his phone!'
'You think you're gonna go now?'

 

[Lewdog]

... because you are wrong. Have you ever been shot at? Do you run towards or away from the gunfire? So why would the driver run towards a crowd he thinks is hostile if he wants to get away from it? He sure didn't have a problem running away from it in reverse after he ran over people and bystanders started smashing his car...

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Nope, I've never backed BLM protesters. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

'He's alt-left! He's alt-left!'
'Yeah he is! Commie motherfucker right there!'
'Take his phone! Take his phone!'
'You think you're gonna go now?'

Another logical fallacy, non sequitur. What's that have to do with the idiot, racist driver?

 

[impuretrash]

Have you ever been a 20 year old with a long history of mental issues and found yourself surrounded by a hostile mob and the police stand by and do nothing to protect you?

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Nope, I've never backed BLM protesters. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

'He's alt-left! He's alt-left!'
'Yeah he is! Commie motherfucker right there!'
'Take his phone! Take his phone!'
'You think you're gonna go now?'

Another logical fallacy, non sequitur. What's that have to do with the idiot, racist driver?

*shrug*

 

[Lewdog]

Except he wasn't surrounded by a mob when he went speeding into the crowd. So start over and try again.

If the roles were reversed and it was a young BLM activist driving the car with hordes of right wingers everywhere you'd be singing a different tune.

Hypocrite.

Nope, I've never backed BLM protesters. Do you know what a strawman argument is?

'He's alt-left! He's alt-left!'
'Yeah he is! Commie motherfucker right there!'
'Take his phone! Take his phone!'
'You think you're gonna go now?'

Another logical fallacy, non sequitur. What's that have to do with the idiot, racist driver?

*shrug*

Exactly. You can't defend the actual event. All you can do is argue with faulty assumptions or with fallacies.

 

[impuretrash]

Another logical fallacy, non sequitur. What's that have to do with the idiot, racist driver?

What proof do you have that fields was a racist?

 

[Lewdog]

Another logical fallacy, non sequitur. What's that have to do with the idiot, racist driver?

What proof do you have that fields was a racist?

He lied to his mom about why he was going to Charlottesville. He is pictured standing with people that are a part of a a hate group, of which Fields is pictured holding a shield with the emblem of the group Vanguard American.

"Southern Poverty Law Center spokeswoman Rebecca Sturtevant told the News that the logo — two white axes — is a variation of imagery used by the white supremacists and Fields’ outfit is standard among the hate group’s ranks.

The Anti-Defamation League depicted Vanguard American as one focused on white identity, but noted that its members have “increasingly demonstrated a neo-Nazi ideology.”

Charlottesville suspect held hate group shield before attack

 

[impuretrash]

He lied to his mom about why he was going to Charlottesville. He is pictured standing with people that are a part of a a hate group, of which Fields is pictured holding a shield with the emblem of the group Vanguard American.

This Vanguard America?

 

[Lewdog]

He lied to his mom about why he was going to Charlottesville. He is pictured standing with people that are a part of a a hate group, of which Fields is pictured holding a shield with the emblem of the group Vanguard American.

This Vanguard America?
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Nice... so you have one tweet.

 

[impuretrash]

He lied to his mom about why he was going to Charlottesville. He is pictured standing with people that are a part of a a hate group, of which Fields is pictured holding a shield with the emblem of the group Vanguard American.

This Vanguard America?
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Nice... so you have one tweet.

 

[Dalia]

Yup. In the lefty safe space...

If the woman in green is Heyer, I'm wondering why the docs would tell her mother she died instantly from a heart attack when you can clearly see she is alive in the FG video, sitting up getting some help from bystanders? Is it even legal to lie to the next of kin about how and when their family member died?

It's possible that she had the heart attack after being struck, but not the moment she was struck; you can see the same woman in green lying on the ground later in the video. Perhaps she died of a heart attack during the 2 minutes or so between seeing her sitting up and seeing her again supine on the road.

It's possible that isn't Heyer.

Perhaps the mother misunderstood the explanation given to her about Heyer's death.

It could be that whoever told the mother that Heyer died instantly of a heart attack was not a medical professional, and misunderstood or misrepresented the facts.

An aunt of mine was in a bad car accident. They brought her into the ER cussing and fussing, and a half hour later she died of a massive heart attack. Doctors said it was the physical shock of the crash; her body just couldn't take it. So it doesn't have to be instantaneous.

A lot of people on FB are saying the woman in green is not Heyer.

It may be that the woman in black in the video Faun poster earlier is Heyer. The woman who made that video, Marissa Blair, supposedly was friends with Heyer. According to the article in the link Faun posted, Blair said Heyer was standing in front of Blair's fiance, Marcus Martin, who was hit and had his leg broken. In the video, a heavyset woman in black is walking in front of Blair and Martin.

Yes, in the video ( 1.45 ) we see a woman in black walking but we see her from the back, no image of her from the front.

 

[Faun]

The counter protestors had a legal permit TOO! That is totally fucking irrelevant! NOBODY had a permit to MURDER and the only people who are under criminal indictment for murder and malicious assault are the Nazi in the Charger whose name I will not write, and some other Nazis who beat the fuck out of a black counter protestor.

Where are all the dead and seriously wounded Nazis?! Oh wait - there are NONE - because Antifa and other counter protestors are NOT the sick and violent fucks to blame for the stain on Charlottesville!

No, the counter protesters did NOT have a permit.

Oh look, yet another brain-dead imbecile who likes to argue his ridiculous position without knowing all the facts.

Yes, brain-dead imbecile, the counter protesters did in fact have permits to protest...

Charlottesville Grants 2 Permits for Counterprotests of Unite the Right Rally

 

[Lewdog]

He lied to his mom about why he was going to Charlottesville. He is pictured standing with people that are a part of a a hate group, of which Fields is pictured holding a shield with the emblem of the group Vanguard American.

This Vanguard America?
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Nice... so you have one tweet.

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Cool beans... now tell me why the government is looking to charge him with a hate crime?


"Speaking on ABC’s “Good Morning America,” Attorney General Jeff Sessions said Monday, “It does meet the definition of domestic terrorism in our statute.”

In a fact sheet, the administration mentioned both possibilities. But a hate crimes case would be easier to bring because domestic terrorism cases involve a much higher burden for prosecutors, said Horace Cooper, a former constitutional law professor at George Mason University."

Should Fields Be Charged with Terrorism or Hate Crime?

 

[Faun]

Glad to see this thread where it belongs.....

Yup. In the lefty safe space...

If the woman in green is Heyer, I'm wondering why the docs would tell her mother she died instantly from a heart attack when you can clearly see she is alive in the FG video, sitting up getting some help from bystanders? Is it even legal to lie to the next of kin about how and when their family member died?

It's possible that she had the heart attack after being struck, but not the moment she was struck; you can see the same woman in green lying on the ground later in the video. Perhaps she died of a heart attack during the 2 minutes or so between seeing her sitting up and seeing her again supine on the road.

It's possible that isn't Heyer.

Perhaps the mother misunderstood the explanation given to her about Heyer's death.

It could be that whoever told the mother that Heyer died instantly of a heart attack was not a medical professional, and misunderstood or misrepresented the facts.

An aunt of mine was in a bad car accident. They brought her into the ER cussing and fussing, and a half hour later she died of a massive heart attack. Doctors said it was the physical shock of the crash; her body just couldn't take it. So it doesn't have to be instantaneous.

A lot of people on FB are saying the woman in green is not Heyer.

No shit?

 

[impuretrash]

Cool beans... now tell me why the government is looking to charge him with a hate crime?

For the same reason the Alt-Right is justified and necessary. For the same reason republicans said this:

...because the world hates white people.

 

[ricechickie]

Cool beans... now tell me why the government is looking to charge him with a hate crime?

For the same reason the Alt-Right is justified and necessary. For the same reason republicans said this:

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...because the world hates white people.

Well, look at you!