Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

[eagle1462010]

Study Details | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

How does the study work?
If you consent to participate, we will ask you to:

• Agree to be randomly assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine or a vitamin. If you agree to this study, there would be a 50-50 chance of receiving a vitamin instead of hydroxychloroquine.
• Take the study medication for five days.
• Answer 3 - 5 short, online follow-up surveys.
• There are no required in-person visits.
• Anyone nationwide can participate, if eligible. You do not need to be in Minnesota.

The hydroxychloroquine dose in this study is similar to what is given for malaria treatment. It is a very safe medicine when used for short periods. The most common side effect is upset stomach and is usually mild. Other side effects reverse when the medication is stopped. Serious side effects can occur, but generally only when taken for extended periods, typically greater than 1 year of continuous use.

Technical details of this study can be found at ClinicalTrials.gov

 

[colfax_m]

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

9000 dead, Trump hasn't been listening to the right people.

Could act like Obama and do nothing for 6 months... Then you could have a nice number of dead to tout... 2.2 million

Fake news.

The report is due out Wednesday....

You folks are going to look shittier than you usually do... AGAIN!

You’re lying about Obama just to make Trump’s incompetence look less incompetent.

Shame.

This is how a competent government handles a pandemic.

CDC Novel H1N1 Flu | The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010

www.cdc.gov

 

[ColonelAngus]

Bulldog is hoping and praying for more deaths and a depression.

So fucked.

 

[colfax_m]

Study Details | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

How does the study work?
If you consent to participate, we will ask you to:

• Agree to be randomly assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine or a vitamin. If you agree to this study, there would be a 50-50 chance of receiving a vitamin instead of hydroxychloroquine.
• Take the study medication for five days.
• Answer 3 - 5 short, online follow-up surveys.
• There are no required in-person visits.
• Anyone nationwide can participate, if eligible. You do not need to be in Minnesota.

The hydroxychloroquine dose in this study is similar to what is given for malaria treatment. It is a very safe medicine when used for short periods. The most common side effect is upset stomach and is usually mild. Other side effects reverse when the medication is stopped. Serious side effects can occur, but generally only when taken for extended periods, typically greater than 1 year of continuous use.

Technical details of this study can be found at ClinicalTrials.gov

Home | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

The University of Minnesota is conducting a research study to determine if taking a medication called hydroxychloroquine can help in preventing or treating COVID-19 disease (commonly referred to as coronavirus). There is a lack of strong, human data for this drug in the setting of COVID-19 disease, so this study is aimed at providing an important and timely answer.

We are looking for participants who fit these criteria:

1. Exposed and WITHOUT symptoms
   • Closely exposed to a person with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of enrolling, AND
   • Live in the same household as this person or are a healthcare worker, OR
2. WITH symptoms
   • Currently diagnosed with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of symptom onset, OR
   • Are a household contact or healthcare worker with a confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 contact, and are currently within the first 4 days of experiencing compatible symptoms with pending/unavailable testing
   • Not currently hospitalized

This study is only open to those within the United States. If you live in Canada, there is a similar study you can join HERE.

Want to participate?

A trial is in progress. It’ll be quite some time until we see the results.

 

[eagle1462010]

ClinicalTrials.gov

clinicaltrials.gov

Full trial details

 

[colfax_m]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

COVIDIOT Tramp

Troll......and nothing more.........These meetings are CLASSIFIED and are a FELONY........

Clapper and Tapper should already be in Prison.

Why should Tapper be in the gulag, comrade?

He's a LEAKER.........just because their is a virus doesn't mean we forgot what those assholes did.

Tapper is in the media. We don’t prosecute journalists who report things the government doesn’t want to be reported. Maybe that’s what they do where you come from, comrade, but this is the US of A, where we abide by the constitution, not dear leaders ego.

 

[eagle1462010]

Study Details | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

How does the study work?
If you consent to participate, we will ask you to:

• Agree to be randomly assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine or a vitamin. If you agree to this study, there would be a 50-50 chance of receiving a vitamin instead of hydroxychloroquine.
• Take the study medication for five days.
• Answer 3 - 5 short, online follow-up surveys.
• There are no required in-person visits.
• Anyone nationwide can participate, if eligible. You do not need to be in Minnesota.

The hydroxychloroquine dose in this study is similar to what is given for malaria treatment. It is a very safe medicine when used for short periods. The most common side effect is upset stomach and is usually mild. Other side effects reverse when the medication is stopped. Serious side effects can occur, but generally only when taken for extended periods, typically greater than 1 year of continuous use.

Technical details of this study can be found at ClinicalTrials.gov

Home | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

The University of Minnesota is conducting a research study to determine if taking a medication called hydroxychloroquine can help in preventing or treating COVID-19 disease (commonly referred to as coronavirus). There is a lack of strong, human data for this drug in the setting of COVID-19 disease, so this study is aimed at providing an important and timely answer.

We are looking for participants who fit these criteria:

1. Exposed and WITHOUT symptoms
   • Closely exposed to a person with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of enrolling, AND
   • Live in the same household as this person or are a healthcare worker, OR
2. WITH symptoms
   • Currently diagnosed with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of symptom onset, OR
   • Are a household contact or healthcare worker with a confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 contact, and are currently within the first 4 days of experiencing compatible symptoms with pending/unavailable testing
   • Not currently hospitalized

This study is only open to those within the United States. If you live in Canada, there is a similar study you can join HERE.

Want to participate?

A trial is in progress. It’ll be quite some time until we see the results.

This is only one of many DERP

 

[DBA]

Fauci only has one focus, health. The economic team only has one focus, the economy. The President's responsibility is both, so he must merge ideas from these two teams together to come to solution that is best for the country overall.

Democrats would love nothing more than for our economy to continue a downward trend. They can promote more social welfare programs, online/voting my mail, which is ripe with potential for fraud and of course, they believe it can help get Biden elected. I wouldn't go so far as to say that Democrats want people to die, but suffice to say they would prefer the "fix" be shutting the country down vs a vaccine and a cure that would get everyone back to work much quicker. That is why they are hoping against hope that treatments will go through a very thorough and long vetting process. If this lasted all the way to the election and Biden was elected, these drugs would miraculously be approved shortly thereafter so Biden could claim the economic bump. This is how Democrats roll. The non-sense pork in the first stimulus bill proposed by Pelosi should be a wake up call as to their real agenda.

As I have said before, an old shirt can act as an adequate tourniquet in a fox hole. In a time of crisis, the idea of extensive long term testing for drugs that have shown promise and have already been on the market for many years, is non-pragmatic.

 

[Muhammed]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

Why the hell do you believe a known fake news outlet like CNN in the first place? Acosta has continuously tried to get Trump and Fauci to contradict each other at the press conferences to no avail. So, frustrated, he just made the this shit up using anonymous sources that obviously do not exist.

 

[CowboyTed]

I thought this thread was about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. If so, there is no debate. Fauci is correct. No scientifically verified data supports the hypothesis that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for CV-19. Full stop.

in the places it has been used in controlled tests on infected people it has worked. It may not be the end-all drug, but it works on many people. It has been around for 50 years or more and is cheap and available, why not use it? Answer: because its available and cheap, so big pharma who funds most of the democrats, cannot make billions on it. Follow the money, suckers.

you know big pharma gives way more money to gop than dems...

 

[eagle1462010]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

Classified only so that Trump can use legal threats to hide behind. Courts have found administrations in the past misusing national security to avoid transparency.

They’re not classified to protect national security but to protect Donny’s image.

It is passed the time to make an example of those who leak Classified information in this country. These meetings are CLASSIFIED so they can argue and come up with solutions and advice for how to go forward.........They aren't always NICE MEETINGS.......People disagree and they argue it out to decide the eventually policy.

Leaking it WITHOUT PERMISSION is A FELONY.

 

[eagle1462010]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

Why the hell do you believe a known fake news outlet like CNN in the first place? Acosta has continuously tried to get Trump and Fauci to contradict each other at the press conferences to no avail. So he just made the this shit up using anonymous sources that obviously do not exist.

Axios as I posted broke the story and showed a full conversation from the meeting......

I posted that link.............If it was what happened in a closed door meeting.....leaking it is against the Law.

 

[colfax_m]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

Classified only so that Trump can use legal threats to hide behind. Courts have found administrations in the past misusing national security to avoid transparency.

They’re not classified to protect national security but to protect Donny’s image.

It is passed the time to make an example of those who leak Classified information in this country. These meetings are CLASSIFIED so they can argue and come up with solutions and advice for how to go forward.........They aren't always NICE MEETINGS.......People disagree and they argue it out to decide the eventually policy.

Leaking it WITHOUT PERMISSION is A FELONY.

That would be a misuse of the classification system and not consistent with the constitution.

Before you lock someone up, you need to tell us why what they did is enough to take away their constitutional right to freedom of speech.

 

[Billy_Bob]

The preliminary report from NY is stunning...

Those given Hydrocloriquine have reduced hospital stays by 1/2. Virus shed rates have been lowered to just five days where no meidcations was 18 days. This means a patient will spend less than half the time in a hospital bed and infectious. The coming reports over the next week will vindicate Trump again. They are trying to discredit the preliminary reports and cast doubt.

 

[eagle1462010]

Meetings on discussions to determine policy are CLASSIFIED until DECLASSIFIED in this room.

Nothing in this reporting has any business being classified. Presidents like to misuse “national security” to maintain secrecy for political purposes.

These meetings ARE CLASSIFIED.......PERIOD.....They are Presidential meetings to DECIDE POLICY......Arguments happen there.........and unless they are UNCLASSIFIED.......it is A FELONY TO RELEASE THIS INFORMATION

So WHO NEEDS TO GO TO JAIL?

COVIDIOT Tramp

Troll......and nothing more.........These meetings are CLASSIFIED and are a FELONY........

Clapper and Tapper should already be in Prison.

Why should Tapper be in the gulag, comrade?

He's a LEAKER.........just because their is a virus doesn't mean we forgot what those assholes did.

Tapper is in the media. We don’t prosecute journalists who report things the government doesn’t want to be reported. Maybe that’s what they do where you come from, comrade, but this is the US of A, where we abide by the constitution, not dear leaders ego.

Sorry......GOT THE ASSHOLES mixed up.........Tapper is just an ASSHOLE.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

9000 dead, Trump hasn't been listening to the right people.

Could act like Obama and do nothing for 6 months... Then you could have a nice number of dead to tout... 2.2 million

Fake news.

The report is due out Wednesday....

You folks are going to look shittier than you usually do... AGAIN!

You’re lying about Obama just to make Trump’s incompetence look less incompetent.

Shame.

This is how a competent government handles a pandemic.

CDC Novel H1N1 Flu | The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010

www.cdc.gov

Your own link shows Obama's inept response....

 

[eagle1462010]

The preliminary report from NY is stunning...

Those given Hydrocloriquine have reduced hospital stays by 1/2. Virus shed rates have been lowered to just five days where no meidcations was 18 days. This means a patient will spend less than half the time in a hospital bed and infectious. The coming reports over the next week will vindicate Trump again. They are trying to discredit the preliminary reports and cast doubt.

These assholes act like they don't want it to work......It's unreal.

Governors Banned it.....then later went oops hoping no one would notice I guess......

There people are RETARDS.

 

[Crixus]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

"A person familiar with the meeting" , Jim Acusta, CNN says all I need to know about this article. It's largely bullshit. I will agree that the good doctor loves all the attention. But the fact is he knows his stuff. I have never heard Dr. F discount the drugs used for corona virus, but I have heard him say there needs to be structured drug trials and I agree with him on that point. In the end he is only an advisor, not the president. Allot is being made of this tension when there really isn't that much to it.

 

[beautress]

Study Details | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

How does the study work?
If you consent to participate, we will ask you to:

• Agree to be randomly assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine or a vitamin. If you agree to this study, there would be a 50-50 chance of receiving a vitamin instead of hydroxychloroquine.
• Take the study medication for five days.
• Answer 3 - 5 short, online follow-up surveys.
• There are no required in-person visits.
• Anyone nationwide can participate, if eligible. You do not need to be in Minnesota.

The hydroxychloroquine dose in this study is similar to what is given for malaria treatment. It is a very safe medicine when used for short periods. The most common side effect is upset stomach and is usually mild. Other side effects reverse when the medication is stopped. Serious side effects can occur, but generally only when taken for extended periods, typically greater than 1 year of continuous use.

Technical details of this study can be found at ClinicalTrials.gov

Home | Post-exposure Prophylaxis or Preemptive Treatment for Coronavirus

covidpep.umn.edu

The University of Minnesota is conducting a research study to determine if taking a medication called hydroxychloroquine can help in preventing or treating COVID-19 disease (commonly referred to as coronavirus). There is a lack of strong, human data for this drug in the setting of COVID-19 disease, so this study is aimed at providing an important and timely answer.

We are looking for participants who fit these criteria:

1. Exposed and WITHOUT symptoms
   • Closely exposed to a person with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of enrolling, AND
   • Live in the same household as this person or are a healthcare worker, OR
2. WITH symptoms
   • Currently diagnosed with confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 disease within 4 days of symptom onset, OR
   • Are a household contact or healthcare worker with a confirmed/test-proven COVID-19 contact, and are currently within the first 4 days of experiencing compatible symptoms with pending/unavailable testing
   • Not currently hospitalized

This study is only open to those within the United States. If you live in Canada, there is a similar study you can join HERE.

Want to participate?

A trial is in progress. It’ll be quite some time until we see the results.

Oh, Goody! The three witches, Pelosi, Waters, and Feinstein have something else to stir in their cauldron of false narratives against President MacBeth Trump.

 

[colfax_m]

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

9000 dead, Trump hasn't been listening to the right people.

Could act like Obama and do nothing for 6 months... Then you could have a nice number of dead to tout... 2.2 million

Fake news.

The report is due out Wednesday....

You folks are going to look shittier than you usually do... AGAIN!

You’re lying about Obama just to make Trump’s incompetence look less incompetent.

Shame.

This is how a competent government handles a pandemic.

CDC Novel H1N1 Flu | The 2009 H1N1 Pandemic: Summary Highlights, April 2009-April 2010

www.cdc.gov

Your own link shows Obama's inept response....

What was inept about it? Do tell.