Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine, Navarro vs Fauci

[dannyboys]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

Yeah, let's listen to what the economist has to say over the health care professional with over 50 years experience during a pandemic.

Yeah, let's stay in our houses like hermits for two years. Brilliant plan. There will be NO viruses left likely, but also, no economy. And no America.

Great idea. Brilliant.

That's exactly what The VOR asshole would LOVE to see happen if it would destroy President Trump.

 

[Seawytch]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

Doctor Smith says you need life saving surgery. Economist Jones says you don't. Who do you believe?

 

[bripat9643]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

You're an idiot if you believe Fauci isn't political.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

Can YOU sit in your living room and wait out the virus for months or years? The vast majority of Americans can not. To suggest that as a viable option shows a serious disconnect from the reality of day to day needs.

 

[JLW]

Who you going to believe.

The Doctor with a stellar record who graduated first in his class from Cornell Medical School and has been the head of the CDC Infectious disease department for over 30 years

or

the social scientist without a medical background who is just harping what his boss wants him to say?

That question should not be a tough one to anyone with a brain.

 

[JLW]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

You're an idiot if you believe Fauci isn't political.

Dr. Fauci is only political to warped minded conspiracy theorists.

 

[Seawytch]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

Can YOU sit in your living room and wait out the virus for months or years? The vast majority of Americans can not. To suggest that as a viable option shows a serious disconnect from the reality of day to day needs.

Who is saying years? Yes, you may have to sit there a bit over a month.

 

[Seawytch]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

You're an idiot if you believe Fauci isn't political.

Really? And what are his "politics" He has been at the CDC through A LOT of Presidents.

 

[ColonelAngus]

I blame Obama for Swine flu deaths.

18,036 (lab-confirmed deaths reported to WHO;flu patients were generally not tested) 151,700-575,400 (CDC and WHO estimate)

 

[CowboyTed]

I thought this thread was about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. If so, there is no debate. Fauci is correct. No scientifically verified data supports the hypothesis that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for CV-19. Full stop.

Well you can take hydroxychloroquine to get rid of COVID-19... I am sure if you are dead you can't have COVID-19 and you didn't die of COVID-19...

 

[berg80]

Dr. Fauci is only political to warped minded conspiracy theorists.

Trumpists are forced to employ conspiracy theories because reality is at odds with their beliefs.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The woman I know here in the Orlando area had pneumonia and liver failure and the malaria drug among others worked for her.

 

[progressive hunter]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

shit I thought this was real news and not fake news from CNN,,,

when you get a real source get back to us

 

[Muhammed]

Right, let's trust the political guy and not the one with vast experience dealing with infectious diseases during a pandemic.

Are you kidding me, you'd have to be out of your mind to take the word of a man with over 50 years experience in the health care industry instead of an economist.

Of course, unlike TDS afflicted morons like you, the wise man recognizes that it's not an either/or proposition in the first place.

Trump is a wise man and you are a moron.

 

[BULLDOG]

The woman I know here in the Orlando area had pneumonia and liver failure and the malaria drug among others worked for her.

How exactly do you define "WORKED" ? Was she diagnosed with Covid 19?

 

[shockedcanadian]

I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years

You know that came from a SATIRE site!
SUCKER!

Wrong, Trump has mentioned him and such an idea right to his face during his press conferences.

He basically stated "if it were up to Tony, he would have the entire world shut down for 2 years until we had a cure. America wasn't built to operate like that. People want to get back to work..." etc.

 

[Muhammed]

I thought this thread was about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. If so, there is no debate. Fauci is correct. No scientifically verified data supports the hypothesis that hydroxychloroquine is an effective treatment for CV-19. Full stop.

There is no scientifically verified data that supports the hypothesis that hydroxychloroquine is never an effective treatment for COVID-19.

 

[ColonelAngus]

The woman I know here in the Orlando area had pneumonia and liver failure and the malaria drug among others worked for her.

How exactly do you define "WORKED" ? Was she diagnosed with Covid 19?

Yes

 

[shockedcanadian]

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

9000 dead, Trump hasn't been listening to the right people.

Here is Fauci in a Jan 21st interview:

GREG KELLY: Bottom line. We don’t have to worry about this one right?

FAUCI: Well obviously we have to take it seriously and follow the things the CDC an DHS are doing but this is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.

Tucker Carlson: Dr. Fauci Is Suggesting "National Suicide"

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

I know this much, Navarro has been a hawk on China, well ahead of the game in terms of what threat they pose to the world. The guy I probably most trust in his administration to stay the course on confronting abusers of America.

Fauci, has been getting sunshine shined up his behind by CNN in particular for some time. This article was co-written by that guy in high school who I would expect to rat someone out to the teacher if he heard them curse in gym class, Jim Acosta. I think Fauci seeks the spotlight too often and he is a little too sure of himself for my tastes for this type of situation with many unknowns. I'm glad when Trump calls him out about wanting to shut the country down for 2 years, I think it's an odd, broad position to take considering how some states are far less impacted by this virus than others.

Heated disagreement breaks out in Situation Room over hydroxychloroquine

(CNN)There was a heated disagreement in the Situation Room this weekend over the efficacy of the anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine -- but multiple sources say it was mostly one-sided, as President Donald Trump's top trade adviser Peter Navarro feuded with other officials over the drug's unproven effectiveness to treat coronavirus.

The debate is not a new one inside the coronavirus task force -- and medical experts have repeatedly explained to the President that there is a risk in enthusiastically touting hydroxychloroquine in case the drug doesn't ultimately work to combat the virus. But other aides and outside advisers have sided with Trump, including Navarro, who is still not a formal part of the task force but has wedged himself into the meetings.

Axios first reported on the disagreement inside the White House about the drug.

While discussing the latest on hydroxychloroquine this weekend, an exasperated Navarro lashed out at Dr. Anthony Fauci, one of the advisers who has urged caution about the drug, a person familiar with the meeting told CNN.

Fauci's been good to have in our corner but OTOH reminds me of that saying "When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail". He's too insular. Trump is wise to bring other people in and listen.

Given that fact that Trump and his team did essentially nothing until March 13th (outside of a restriction on travel from China on January 31st), that would be making the current disaster into an unmitigated disaster. Sure. I'll pay attention to the Trump sycophants and not the doctors. Look, they're just digging for any sliver of a rope that can pull them out of this. As if dropping these drugs from the sky will magically cure the virus. That's just plain dangerous. And it won't save Trump from the fate he so richly deserves in November.