Healthcare.gov sucks, Medicare.gov works!!

[Hoffstra]

Medicare.gov: the official U.S. government site for Medicare

why not just let Americans buy into Medicare?

oh, cause its Socialism? spare us the hyperbole.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Didn't you start a thread about how you managed to sign on through Healthcare.gov, now it sucks? What happened?

 

[TemplarKormac]

Didn't you start a thread about how you managed to sign on through Healthcare.gov, now it sucks? What happened?

He lied. What else?

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Didn't you start a thread about how you managed to sign on through Healthcare.gov, now it sucks? What happened?

 

[healthmyths]

Medicare.gov: the official U.S. government site for Medicare

why not just let Americans buy into Medicare?

oh, cause its Socialism? spare us the hyperbole.

RIGHT! Obviously YOU never heard of EMTALA have you? Another "FEEL GOOD" let's help the people government program!

Come little one let me educate you in Medicare. PLUS do a little documentation AS I your teacher have done!!!
EMTALA. Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act ..
Enacted by the federal government in 1986, requires that hospital emergency departments treat emergency conditions of all patients regardless of their ability to pay and is considered a critical element in the "safety net" for the uninsured, but established no direct payment mechanism for such care. Indirect payments and reimbursements through federal and state government programs have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA.
According to the Institute of Medicine, between 1993 and 2003, emergency room visits in the U.S. grew by 26%, while in the same period, the number of emergency departments declined by 425.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Key phrases in the above.." have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA."
Proof? From a former CEO of a hospital..
"How do hospitals deal with the cost of the uninsured? Like any business, we pass it on to the paying customers.”
From PAGE 1 of this document: http://www.ncmedicaljournal.com/wp-content/uploads/NCMJ/mar-apr-05/Yarbrough.pdf

Medicare is sometimes billed 6,000% above costs by hospitals to recoup these costs.
Proof? FACTS!! I have access to a database of 6,000 hospitals and what they BILLED Medicare and what THEIR Costs actually were for the services.
For example: Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613

In 2011 they sent Medicare 1,362 claims for doing CAT scans.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare... Do you understand? Each claim averaged $3,483.

BUT The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57!
a mark up 5,975.44% !!!
Almost 6,000% mark up!
Tell me something you get all bent out of shape reading about insurance companies raising premiums... NOW little one do you understand WHY??
Medicare FORCED hospitals to do as the CEO said.."pass it on to the paying customers."!!

So this is what the future will be... MORE MEDICARE WASTE!

And for what? 4 million people that really WANT health insurance.. NOT 18 million that don't want or need, or 14 million that don't know THEY ARE COVERED or
10 million that are not legal citizens! 42 million people bogusly included in the "46 million uninsured" phony figure !

4 million that is all and it would be so simple to cover them!!!

 

[NYcarbineer]

Medicare.gov: the official U.S. government site for Medicare

why not just let Americans buy into Medicare?

oh, cause its Socialism? spare us the hyperbole.

RIGHT! Obviously YOU never heard of EMTALA have you? Another "FEEL GOOD" let's help the people government program!

Come little one let me educate you in Medicare. PLUS do a little documentation AS I your teacher have done!!!
EMTALA. Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act ..
Enacted by the federal government in 1986, requires that hospital emergency departments treat emergency conditions of all patients regardless of their ability to pay and is considered a critical element in the "safety net" for the uninsured, but established no direct payment mechanism for such care. Indirect payments and reimbursements through federal and state government programs have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA.
According to the Institute of Medicine, between 1993 and 2003, emergency room visits in the U.S. grew by 26%, while in the same period, the number of emergency departments declined by 425.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Key phrases in the above.." have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA."
Proof? From a former CEO of a hospital..
"How do hospitals deal with the cost of the uninsured? Like any business, we pass it on to the paying customers.”
From PAGE 1 of this document: http://www.ncmedicaljournal.com/wp-content/uploads/NCMJ/mar-apr-05/Yarbrough.pdf

Medicare is sometimes billed 6,000% above costs by hospitals to recoup these costs.
Proof? FACTS!! I have access to a database of 6,000 hospitals and what they BILLED Medicare and what THEIR Costs actually were for the services.
For example: Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613

In 2011 they sent Medicare 1,362 claims for doing CAT scans.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare... Do you understand? Each claim averaged $3,483.

BUT The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57!
a mark up 5,975.44% !!!
Almost 6,000% mark up!
Tell me something you get all bent out of shape reading about insurance companies raising premiums... NOW little one do you understand WHY??
Medicare FORCED hospitals to do as the CEO said.."pass it on to the paying customers."!!

So this is what the future will be... MORE MEDICARE WASTE!

And for what? 4 million people that really WANT health insurance.. NOT 18 million that don't want or need, or 14 million that don't know THEY ARE COVERED or
10 million that are not legal citizens! 42 million people bogusly included in the "46 million uninsured" phony figure !

4 million that is all and it would be so simple to cover them!!!

Do you know that the exchanges that are being established are having one result relevant to the above?

Uninsured people who are compelled to go to them, like the 14 million you cite above, are finding out that they are already covered by Medicaid.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Medicare.gov: the official U.S. government site for Medicare

why not just let Americans buy into Medicare?

oh, cause its Socialism? spare us the hyperbole.

The online component of Obamacare will eventually run as well as medicare.gov does. That won't change the opinion of the haters. They hate Medicare now. Like I said somewhere yesterday,

even if Obamacare was operating perfectly in every aspect, these people would still hate it.

 

[healthmyths]

Medicare.gov: the official U.S. government site for Medicare

why not just let Americans buy into Medicare?

oh, cause its Socialism? spare us the hyperbole.

RIGHT! Obviously YOU never heard of EMTALA have you? Another "FEEL GOOD" let's help the people government program!

Come little one let me educate you in Medicare. PLUS do a little documentation AS I your teacher have done!!!
EMTALA. Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act ..
Enacted by the federal government in 1986, requires that hospital emergency departments treat emergency conditions of all patients regardless of their ability to pay and is considered a critical element in the "safety net" for the uninsured, but established no direct payment mechanism for such care. Indirect payments and reimbursements through federal and state government programs have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA.
According to the Institute of Medicine, between 1993 and 2003, emergency room visits in the U.S. grew by 26%, while in the same period, the number of emergency departments declined by 425.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Key phrases in the above.." have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA."
Proof? From a former CEO of a hospital..
"How do hospitals deal with the cost of the uninsured? Like any business, we pass it on to the paying customers.”
From PAGE 1 of this document: http://www.ncmedicaljournal.com/wp-content/uploads/NCMJ/mar-apr-05/Yarbrough.pdf

Medicare is sometimes billed 6,000% above costs by hospitals to recoup these costs.
Proof? FACTS!! I have access to a database of 6,000 hospitals and what they BILLED Medicare and what THEIR Costs actually were for the services.
For example: Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613

In 2011 they sent Medicare 1,362 claims for doing CAT scans.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare... Do you understand? Each claim averaged $3,483.

BUT The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57!
a mark up 5,975.44% !!!
Almost 6,000% mark up!
Tell me something you get all bent out of shape reading about insurance companies raising premiums... NOW little one do you understand WHY??
Medicare FORCED hospitals to do as the CEO said.."pass it on to the paying customers."!!

So this is what the future will be... MORE MEDICARE WASTE!

And for what? 4 million people that really WANT health insurance.. NOT 18 million that don't want or need, or 14 million that don't know THEY ARE COVERED or
10 million that are not legal citizens! 42 million people bogusly included in the "46 million uninsured" phony figure !

4 million that is all and it would be so simple to cover them!!!

Do you know that the exchanges that are being established are having one result relevant to the above?

Uninsured people who are compelled to go to them, like the 14 million you cite above, are finding out that they are already covered by Medicaid.

So it took $1 billion to create a website,
the destruction of a potential 16 million people NOW on insurance
and the eventual demise of $100 billion a year tax paying industry
for the INEPT CMS to find these 14 million???

YOU have proven then the stupidity of the ACA that included a tax on GROSS revenues for medical device manufacturers THAT are now letting people go because of the stupid ignorant naive idiots who passed a bill before they read it!

100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare

Companies, workers, retirees, students, and spouses all suffer from the law’s inflexible mandates.

100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare | National Review Online

 

[Geaux4it]

The problem is, the majority of the minority of Americans who have signed up, are the takers, not the makers.

This whole pile of dung will cave upon itself. Just hope it happens before ISON arrives

-Geaux

 

[NYcarbineer]

RIGHT! Obviously YOU never heard of EMTALA have you? Another "FEEL GOOD" let's help the people government program!

Come little one let me educate you in Medicare. PLUS do a little documentation AS I your teacher have done!!!
EMTALA. Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act ..
Enacted by the federal government in 1986, requires that hospital emergency departments treat emergency conditions of all patients regardless of their ability to pay and is considered a critical element in the "safety net" for the uninsured, but established no direct payment mechanism for such care. Indirect payments and reimbursements through federal and state government programs have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA.
According to the Institute of Medicine, between 1993 and 2003, emergency room visits in the U.S. grew by 26%, while in the same period, the number of emergency departments declined by 425.
Health care in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Key phrases in the above.." have never fully compensated public and private hospitals for the full cost of care mandated by EMTALA."
Proof? From a former CEO of a hospital..
"How do hospitals deal with the cost of the uninsured? Like any business, we pass it on to the paying customers.”
From PAGE 1 of this document: http://www.ncmedicaljournal.com/wp-content/uploads/NCMJ/mar-apr-05/Yarbrough.pdf

Medicare is sometimes billed 6,000% above costs by hospitals to recoup these costs.
Proof? FACTS!! I have access to a database of 6,000 hospitals and what they BILLED Medicare and what THEIR Costs actually were for the services.
For example: Florida Hospital Tampa 3100 East Fletcher Avenue Tampa, FL 33613

In 2011 they sent Medicare 1,362 claims for doing CAT scans.
Each claim averaged $3,463, i.e. what the hospital billed Medicare... Do you understand? Each claim averaged $3,483.

BUT The hospital's ACTUAL COSTS to perform the CAT SCAN was $57!
a mark up 5,975.44% !!!
Almost 6,000% mark up!
Tell me something you get all bent out of shape reading about insurance companies raising premiums... NOW little one do you understand WHY??
Medicare FORCED hospitals to do as the CEO said.."pass it on to the paying customers."!!

So this is what the future will be... MORE MEDICARE WASTE!

And for what? 4 million people that really WANT health insurance.. NOT 18 million that don't want or need, or 14 million that don't know THEY ARE COVERED or
10 million that are not legal citizens! 42 million people bogusly included in the "46 million uninsured" phony figure !

4 million that is all and it would be so simple to cover them!!!

Do you know that the exchanges that are being established are having one result relevant to the above?

Uninsured people who are compelled to go to them, like the 14 million you cite above, are finding out that they are already covered by Medicaid.

So it took $1 billion to create a website,
the destruction of a potential 16 million people NOW on insurance
and the eventual demise of $100 billion a year tax paying industry
for the INEPT CMS to find these 14 million???

YOU have proven then the stupidity of the ACA that included a tax on GROSS revenues for medical device manufacturers THAT are now letting people go because of the stupid ignorant naive idiots who passed a bill before they read it!

100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare

Companies, workers, retirees, students, and spouses all suffer from the law’s inflexible mandates.

100 Unintended Consequences of Obamacare | National Review Online

Pretty much everything you say is untrue.