GOP effort to stop illegal immigrants being counted for House districts, Electoral College shot down in Senate

[progressive hunter]

Hos are gonna be hos. The idea that you can outlaw sex is kind of silly.

Remember, this whole discussion right now is because your leader had sex with a porn star.

I take that as a surrender,,

 

[progressive hunter]

How about linking what the fuck you are actually trying to make as the basis of your point?

I've linked the ACTUAL FUCKING TEXT of the Constitution.

but you refuse to post to the actual word the census uses to count,,

its OK we all knw why you wont,,

 

[JoeB131]

I take that as a surrender,,

Not a surrender at all... I don't go for fake moral panics because you don't want a Mexican moving in next door.

It's a bullshit issue that shouldn't be used as an excuse to deny decent people an opportunity to immigrate here.

 

[progressive hunter]

Not a surrender at all... I don't go for fake moral panics because you don't want a Mexican moving in next door.

It's a bullshit issue that shouldn't be used as an excuse to deny decent people an opportunity to immigrate here.

yes it is,,

instead of defending sex traffickers you went with personal attacks thinking that means anything to me..

are you now calling sex traffickers and their victims decent people??

thats just sick,,

we have a legal way to apply for immigration purposess and sneaking in the back door aint it,,

 

[JoeB131]

yes it is,,

instead of defending sex traffickers you went with personal attacks thinking that means anything to me..

are you now calling sex traffickers and their victims decent people??

thats just sick,,

we have a legal way to apply for immigration purposess and sneaking in the back door aint it,,

Guy, the thing, you don't want to just stop the sex traffickers, you want to stop all immigration and use that fake issue as a pretext.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I gave you the words of the Constitution. That overrides any law.

Actually, how SCOTUS interprets our Ur document overrides anything you think about it.

 

[progressive hunter]

Guy, the thing, you don't want to just stop the sex traffickers, you want to stop all immigration and use that fake issue as a pretext.

so whats your kickback for all this defense of them??

 

[JoeB131]

so whats your kickback for all this defense of them??

Because most immigrants are good people just looking to better themselves.

If you are worried about the few who aren't, dedicate the resources to vet them. But you'll end up having to accept the majority who aren't.

 

[progressive hunter]

Because most immigrants are good people just looking to better themselves.

If you are worried about the few who aren't, dedicate the resources to vet them. But you'll end up having to accept the majority who aren't.

but youre not doing it for those people or you would support legal means and not the one that allows sex trafficking of women and children,,

 

[JoeB131]

but youre not doing it for those people or you would support legal means and not the one that allows sex trafficking of women and children,,

THey are following legal means. They are claiming asylum. We are obligated to hear their cases under our current law, and it shouldn't take 7 years to get a hearing.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Because it's told to count persons for purpose of determining representation.

I would love to exclude illegals from the count, and end anchor babies, but to do so requires a constitutional amendment.

Since the first census in 1790, citizens and noncitizens have been included in the official population count of the U.S. due to the 14th Amendment's requirement to include “whole numbers of persons in each State.”

U.S. House Republicans pass bill to stop census from counting noncitizens • Missouri Independent

WASHINGTON — U.S. House Republicans passed a bill Wednesday to add a citizenship question to the census and exclude noncitizens from the official headcount when determining population for representation in Congress and electoral votes. The legislation, which passed on a 206-202 party-line vote...

missouriindependent.com

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The whole purpose of importing all those illegals into is to dilute the power and influence of American Patriots and give the Democrats a solid majority that cannot be overcome. And the Democrats prove once and for all that is the agenda when they won't allow a simple question on the U.S. Census so that we can know who is an American citizen and who is not.

I cannot imagine how so many became so unAmerican and so devoid of principle and conscience. But the next move is to give all those illegal voting rights even as we will likely add another million or two of them before the election. And when that happens, America is done.

cuckoo

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Since the first census in 1790, citizens and noncitizens have been included in the official population count of the U.S. due to the 14th Amendment’s requirement to include “whole numbers of persons in each State.”​

When was the first census in the United States? - History - U.S. Census Bureau

When was the first census in the United States?

www.census.gov

 

[progressive hunter]

THey are following legal means. They are claiming asylum. We are obligated to hear their cases under our current law, and it shouldn't take 7 years to get a hearing.

child sex traffickers are not asylum seekers,,
as you said we have legal points of entry,,

so again whats in it for you for defending the sex traffickers??

 

[JoeB131]

child sex traffickers are not asylum seekers,,
as you said we have legal points of entry,,

so again whats in it for you for defending the sex traffickers??

No one did that, but I can understand why you want to bring up fake issues... your position is untenable.

 

[martybegan]

but you refuse to post to the actual word the census uses to count,,

its OK we all knw why you wont,,

Then you post the words, from the Census law, you fucking lazy prick.

I quote what the Constitution says, which is the final word on all of this.

 

[martybegan]

Actually, how SCOTUS interprets our Ur document overrides anything you think about it.

Non material to this discussion,

And in the matter of how the census counts people in this country, I doubt you would find a single Justice who would allow for excluding anyone unless an Amendment changes what they use as the basis of their interpretations.

 

[martybegan]

Since the first census in 1790, citizens and noncitizens have been included in the official population count of the U.S. due to the 14th Amendment's requirement to include “whole numbers of persons in each State.”

U.S. House Republicans pass bill to stop census from counting noncitizens • Missouri Independent

WASHINGTON — U.S. House Republicans passed a bill Wednesday to add a citizenship question to the census and exclude noncitizens from the official headcount when determining population for representation in Congress and electoral votes. The legislation, which passed on a 206-202 party-line vote...

missouriindependent.com

Why are you posting stuff I already know and agree with?

To change this we would need an amendment. To me limiting it to citizens and legal permanent residents would suffice.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Why are you posting stuff I already know and agree with?

To change this we would need an amendment. To me limiting it to citizens and legal permanent residents would suffice.

The founding generation even counted slaves.

Good luck with any amendments now or in the near future. It's a partisan battle.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Non material to this discussion, And in the matter of how the census counts people in this country, I doubt you would find a single Justice who would allow for excluding anyone unless an Amendment changes what they use as the basis of their interpretations.

Oh, it's very material, as you interp on the Constitution is wrong. SCOTUS is not going to change for your wishes.