He Grabbed the Doctors Finger

[Weatherman2020]

At 21 weeks after conception Sam had surgery for spina bifida while inside his mother. During the surgery he reached out and grabbed the doctors finger. Sam is 22 years old now.

"The entire procedure would take place within the uterus, and no part of the child was to breach the surgical opening," Clancy told the subcommittee.

"When it was over, the surgical team breathed a sigh of relief, as did I," he said.

"As the doctor asked me what speed of film I was using," he continued, "out of the corner of my eye I saw the uterus shake, but no one's hands were near it.

"It was shaking from within," he said.

"Suddenly, an entire arm thrust out of the opening and pulled back, until just the little hand was showing," he said.

"The doctor reached over and lifted the hand, which reacted and squeezed the doctor's finger," Clancy told the subcommittee.

"As if testing for strength, the doctor shook the tiny fist. I took the picture,"

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[irosie91]

At 21 weeks after conception Sam had surgery for spina bifida while inside his mother. During the surgery he reached out and grabbed the doctors finger. Sam is 22 years old now.
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"The entire procedure would take place within the uterus, and no part of the child was to breach the surgical opening," Clancy told the subcommittee.

"When it was over, the surgical team breathed a sigh of relief, as did I," he said.

"As the doctor asked me what speed of film I was using," he continued, "out of the corner of my eye I saw the uterus shake, but no one's hands were near it.

"It was shaking from within," he said.

"Suddenly, an entire arm thrust out of the opening and pulled back, until just the little hand was showing," he said.

"The doctor reached over and lifted the hand, which reacted and squeezed the doctor's finger," Clancy told the subcommittee.

"As if testing for strength, the doctor shook the tiny fist. I took the picture,"

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the hand grasp is a SPINAL REFLEX usually
called "palmar reflex" It is not voluntary.
It can be elicited even in brain dead patients

 

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& now for the truth:

Is This a Real Fetal Surgery Photo?​

A photograph supposedly captured a fetus reaching out towards the surgeon during an in-the-womb surgery.​

• David Mikkelson
• Published 7 May 2003

A photograph shows a fetus reaching out towards the surgeon during an in-the-womb surgery.

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However, it is not true, as described in the accompanying text, that these photographs were taken as Samuel’s hand “emerged from the mother’s uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life,” or that Dr. Bruner said “when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life.” This misinformation has been propagated by many different sources, including the Michael Clancy, the photographer who snapped the pictures:...

What actually took place, as described in news reports of the surgery, was that “[J]ust as surgeon Dr. Joseph Bruner was closing the incision in Julie Armas’ uterus, Samuel’s thumbnail-sized hand flopped out. Bruner lifted it gently and tucked it back in.”2

The surgeon, Dr. Bruner, later elaborated on some of the exaggerated and false claims made about the photograph:

“It has become an urban legend,” says Bruner, the Vanderbilt University surgeon who fixed the spina bifida lesion on Samuel. Many people he hears from wonder whether it’s a fake.
“One person said the photo had been reviewed by a team of medical experts and they had determined that it was a hoax,” Bruner says with a laugh.
More commonly, people want to know how the photo came to be.
Some opponents of abortion have claimed that the baby reached through the womb and grabbed the doctor’s hand.
Not true, Bruner says.
Samuel and his mother, Julie, were under anesthesia and could not move.
“The baby did not reach out,” Bruner says. “The baby was anesthetized. The baby was not aware of what was going on.”3

(The dubious veracity of the photographer’s version of events is highlighted by the disclaimer he appended to it on his web site, stating that it represented his “opinion of the events as they took place during the surgery for Samuel.”)
Is This a Real Fetal Surgery Photo?

 

[Weatherman2020]

the hand grasp is a SPINAL REFLEX usually
called "palmar reflex" It is not voluntary.
It can be elicited even in brain dead patients

By week 7 all babies have brain activity. He was at 21 weeks.

 

[Weatherman2020]

& now for the truth:

Is This a Real Fetal Surgery Photo?​

A photograph supposedly captured a fetus reaching out towards the surgeon during an in-the-womb surgery.​

• David Mikkelson
• Published 7 May 2003

A photograph shows a fetus reaching out towards the surgeon during an in-the-womb surgery.

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However, it is not true, as described in the accompanying text, that these photographs were taken as Samuel’s hand “emerged from the mother’s uterus to grasp the finger of Dr. Joseph Bruner as if thanking the doctor for the gift of life,” or that Dr. Bruner said “when his finger was grasped, it was the most emotional moment of his life.” This misinformation has been propagated by many different sources, including the Michael Clancy, the photographer who snapped the pictures:...

What actually took place, as described in news reports of the surgery, was that “[J]ust as surgeon Dr. Joseph Bruner was closing the incision in Julie Armas’ uterus, Samuel’s thumbnail-sized hand flopped out. Bruner lifted it gently and tucked it back in.”2

The surgeon, Dr. Bruner, later elaborated on some of the exaggerated and false claims made about the photograph:


(The dubious veracity of the photographer’s version of events is highlighted by the disclaimer he appended to it on his web site, stating that it represented his “opinion of the events as they took place during the surgery for Samuel.”)
Is This a Real Fetal Surgery Photo?

Leftard snopes spin.
I posted the direct testimony of the doctor.

 

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Leftard snopes spin.
I posted the direct testimony of the doctor.

snopes has the exact same quote with more details & context. nice try penguin dude....

 

[Weatherman2020]

snopes has the exact same quote with more details & context. nice try penguin dude....

Snopes is a Leftard bullshit rag that repeatedly fact checks the Babylon Bee.

I posted the sworn testimony of the doctor speaking to Congress.

 

[irosie91]

By week 7 all babies have brain activity. He was at 21 weeks.

RIGHT----they do but the GRASP (palmar
reflex) is not mediated by the brain at 21
weeks. It is spinal ----uhm ----I think C5
ie the cervical spinal cord---5th level

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I posted the sworn testimony of the doctor speaking to Congress.

No, you didn't, and you didn't even read your own article.

In a May 2, 2000, story in USA Today, that surgeon, Dr. Joseph Bruner, described the incident from a different perspective.

"Some opponents of abortion have claimed that the baby reached through the womb and grabbed the doctor's hand," USA Today reported. "Not true, Bruner says."

"The baby did not reach out," Bruner told USA Today. "The baby was anesthetized. The baby was not aware of what was going on."

"It was after the spine had been repaired but before the amniotic fluid was returned to the womb that Bruner lifted Samuel's hand and the picture was taken," USA Today reported. "Bruner says he saw the hand 'sort of pop up in the incision' on the womb, and he 'reached over and picked it up.'"

"Why did I pick up the hand?" Bruner said to USA Today. "I have no idea why I did it. I looked and I saw this hand, and I guess that to me it was just a very human thing to do to reach and shake somebody's hand."

 

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Snopes is a Leftard bullshit rag that repeatedly fact checks the Babylon Bee.

I posted the sworn testimony of the doctor speaking to Congress.

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[Weatherman2020]

RIGHT----they do but the GRASP (palmar
reflex) is not mediated by the brain at 21
weeks. It is spinal ----uhm ----I think C5
ie the cervical spinal cord---5th level

There’s children playing right now who were born at less than 21 weeks…..

 

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[irosie91]

There’s children playing right now who were born at less than 21 weeks…..

SO? once they were born their brains
CONTINUED TO DEVELOPE ---the human
brain is not fully mature until about age 20

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Surgeons who operate on unborn children are not known for saying these are not human beings. Whether the tiny hand grabbed the doctor's finger or not, no doctor has denied it was a hand, a human hand.

 

[Weatherman2020]

SO? once they were born their brains
CONTINUED TO DEVELOPE ---the human
brain is not fully mature until about age 20

Ah. So kill anyone you want under age 20?

A lot of parents of teens would agree.

 

[Seymour Flops]

the hand grasp is a SPINAL REFLEX usually
called "palmar reflex" It is not voluntary.
It can be elicited even in brain dead patients

You seem awfully disappointed that Sam is not dead.

 

[Weatherman2020]

SO? once they were born their brains
CONTINUED TO DEVELOPE ---the human
brain is not fully mature until about age 20

And btw - it’s 25.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

SO? once they were born their brains
CONTINUED TO DEVELOPE ---the human
brain is not fully mature until about age 20

Actually it’s more between 25 and 28. The body in general matures more quickly.
This is why people over 21 are still susceptible to brain damage from THC.

 

[WEATHER53]

Leftard snopes spin.
I posted the direct testimony of the doctor.

But hearsay they say is what said