Have Dems done enough for the "forgotten man?"

[berg80]

Radio Address From Albany, New York: "The 'Forgotten Man' Speech"
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...from-albany-new-york-the-forgotten-man-speech

As I do not consider myself to be forgotten I suppose I can't answer the question on a personal level. All I can do is examine Dem's efforts to help people on the middle and lower parts of the economic ladder. BTW, the speech is worth reading.

First, let's not pretend Dems have a perfect record in this regard. But on the whole it's pretty solid in my judgement.

Richard Nixon was actually the first prez to advocate for a national health insurance for those who were not covered under their employers plans. Clearly, those were the days before the party turned hard to the right.

The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan
The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan

But it was Dems who made the concept a reality. Prioritizing medical care as a right, not a privilege. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Dems were in favor of putting up obstacles to offshore jobs. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Republicans block Obama's measure to curb job outsourcing
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...outsourcing/articleshow/15051120.cms?from=mdr

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...block-bill-to-end-tax-breaks-for-outsourcing/

Dems have traditionally supported unions, Repubs, not so much. Dems have supported a higher minimum wage. Repubs, nope.

Obama created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to help average people from being taken advantage of by companies like predatory lenders. Repubs tried to have the bureau shut down.

These are the examples that immediately came to mind. I'm sure there are others. Even, possibly, some for which Dems were on the wrong side. But taken in their entirety there is a compelling case to be made that Dems have historically been on the side of the "forgotten man."

Yet there seems to be widespread sentiment that Dems have failed to do so lately. I don't agree, but again, I can't speak from personal experience. One thing I can say is other than giving lip service to helping those less fortunate have the Repubs actually done anything to help them beyond passing a tax cut that largely benefitted the rich while causing the deficit to balloon?

 

[1srelluc]

Better watch your pronouns.

 

[struth]

Radio Address From Albany, New York: "The 'Forgotten Man' Speech"
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...from-albany-new-york-the-forgotten-man-speech

As I do not consider myself to be forgotten I suppose I can't answer the question on a personal level. All I can do is examine Dem's efforts to help people on the middle and lower parts of the economic ladder. BTW, the speech is worth reading.

First, let's not pretend Dems have a perfect record in this regard. But on the whole it's pretty solid in my judgement.

Richard Nixon was actually the first prez to advocate for a national health insurance for those who were not covered under their employers plans. Clearly, those were the days before the party turned hard to the right.

The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan
The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan

But it was Dems who made the concept a reality. Prioritizing medical care as a right, not a privilege. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Dems were in favor of putting up obstacles to offshore jobs. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Republicans block Obama's measure to curb job outsourcing
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...outsourcing/articleshow/15051120.cms?from=mdr

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...block-bill-to-end-tax-breaks-for-outsourcing/

Dems have traditionally supported unions, Repubs, not so much. Dems have supported a higher minimum wage. Repubs, nope.

Obama created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to help average people from being taken advantage of by companies like predatory lenders. Repubs tried to have the bureau shut down.

These are the examples that immediately came to mind. I'm sure there are others. Even, possibly, some for which Dems were on the wrong side. But taken in their entirety there is a compelling case to be made that Dems have historically been on the side of the "forgotten man."

Yet there seems to be widespread sentiment that Dems have failed to do so lately. I don't agree, but again, I can't speak from personal experience. One thing I can say is other than giving lip service to helping those less fortunate have the Repubs actually done anything to help them beyond passing a tax cut that largely benefitted the rich while causing the deficit to balloon?

Poor people have suffered the most due to harris and xiden economic policy.

Hence why a record number of people are worse off since they have been in office

 

[Vrenn]

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...block-bill-to-end-tax-breaks-for-outsourcing/

Dems have traditionally supported unions, Repubs, not so much. Dems have supported a higher minimum wage. Repubs, nope.

POLITFACT
But this isn’t a special provision just for businesses that move outside of the United States. A business would get the same deductions for money spent moving from New York to California.

Both sides regurgitate this bile and accuse each other of this every so many years. It's the Republicans turn to try and beat up on the Democrats.

Now, for my idea. Let's remove the normal tax breaks from moving a company outside the US Borders. And it shouldn't matter if they just grab the jigs and ship them for China or completely shut down the US Company and buy new jigs in China. We need to go back to 1979 and penalize every company that was sent overseas with a nice hefty Tariff like a 25% one. And then reward those that stay in the US.

This should not be a gift. It should be a penalty.

 

[gipper]

Radio Address From Albany, New York: "The 'Forgotten Man' Speech"
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...from-albany-new-york-the-forgotten-man-speech

As I do not consider myself to be forgotten I suppose I can't answer the question on a personal level. All I can do is examine Dem's efforts to help people on the middle and lower parts of the economic ladder. BTW, the speech is worth reading.

First, let's not pretend Dems have a perfect record in this regard. But on the whole it's pretty solid in my judgement.

Richard Nixon was actually the first prez to advocate for a national health insurance for those who were not covered under their employers plans. Clearly, those were the days before the party turned hard to the right.

The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan
The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan

But it was Dems who made the concept a reality. Prioritizing medical care as a right, not a privilege. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Dems were in favor of putting up obstacles to offshore jobs. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Republicans block Obama's measure to curb job outsourcing
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...outsourcing/articleshow/15051120.cms?from=mdr

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...block-bill-to-end-tax-breaks-for-outsourcing/

Dems have traditionally supported unions, Repubs, not so much. Dems have supported a higher minimum wage. Repubs, nope.

Obama created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to help average people from being taken advantage of by companies like predatory lenders. Repubs tried to have the bureau shut down.

These are the examples that immediately came to mind. I'm sure there are others. Even, possibly, some for which Dems were on the wrong side. But taken in their entirety there is a compelling case to be made that Dems have historically been on the side of the "forgotten man."

Yet there seems to be widespread sentiment that Dems have failed to do so lately. I don't agree, but again, I can't speak from personal experience. One thing I can say is other than giving lip service to helping those less fortunate have the Repubs actually done anything to help them beyond passing a tax cut that largely benefitted the rich while causing the deficit to balloon?

If by Forgotten Man you mean the working class, neither party gives a shit about them even though they represent the vast majority of Americans. Both parties have colluded since the 80s to screw the working class. They’ve been very successful.

PS. Any one of the working class voting for either Don or K, is a fucking dunce.

 

[berg80]

Poor people have suffered the most due to harris and xiden economic policy.

Hence why a record number of people are worse off since they have been in office

Do me a favor and prove either assertion.

 

[berg80]

If by Forgotten Man you mean the working class, neither party gives a shit about them even though they represent the vast majority of Americans.

The evidence shows otherwise.

 

[berg80]

But this isn’t a special provision just for businesses that move outside of the United States. A business would get the same deductions for money spent moving from New York to California.

Sens. John Walsh (D-Mont.) and Debbie Stabenow (D-Mich.) introduced the bill, which would give companies incentives to bring jobs back to the United States, including a tax write-off for the relocating costs and an additional 20 percent credit.

Feel free to find an article that applies to my post.

 

[Crepitus]

Better watch your pronouns.

That's a pretty clear admission you can't refute anything in the OP.

 

[BrokeLoser]

Radio Address From Albany, New York: "The 'Forgotten Man' Speech"
https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...from-albany-new-york-the-forgotten-man-speech

As I do not consider myself to be forgotten I suppose I can't answer the question on a personal level. All I can do is examine Dem's efforts to help people on the middle and lower parts of the economic ladder. BTW, the speech is worth reading.

First, let's not pretend Dems have a perfect record in this regard. But on the whole it's pretty solid in my judgement.

Richard Nixon was actually the first prez to advocate for a national health insurance for those who were not covered under their employers plans. Clearly, those were the days before the party turned hard to the right.

The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan
The Nixon Comprehensive Health Insurance Plan

But it was Dems who made the concept a reality. Prioritizing medical care as a right, not a privilege. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Dems were in favor of putting up obstacles to offshore jobs. Repubs, they fought it tooth and nail.

Republicans block Obama's measure to curb job outsourcing
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...ofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...outsourcing/articleshow/15051120.cms?from=mdr

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing
https://thehill.com/blogs/floor-act...block-bill-to-end-tax-breaks-for-outsourcing/

Dems have traditionally supported unions, Repubs, not so much. Dems have supported a higher minimum wage. Repubs, nope.

Obama created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau to help average people from being taken advantage of by companies like predatory lenders. Repubs tried to have the bureau shut down.

These are the examples that immediately came to mind. I'm sure there are others. Even, possibly, some for which Dems were on the wrong side. But taken in their entirety there is a compelling case to be made that Dems have historically been on the side of the "forgotten man."

Yet there seems to be widespread sentiment that Dems have failed to do so lately. I don't agree, but again, I can't speak from personal experience. One thing I can say is other than giving lip service to helping those less fortunate have the Repubs actually done anything to help them beyond passing a tax cut that largely benefitted the rich while causing the deficit to balloon?

Have Dems done enough for the "forgotten man/woman?"​

NO….they hate the all American white heterosexual middle-classer.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

There wouldn't BE "the forgotten man" if it weren't FOR Democrats.

 

[1srelluc]

That's a pretty clear admission you can't refute anything in the OP.

Truth be told I usually don't read it's posts.

 

[struth]

Do me a favor and prove either assertion.

40 percent of the country says they are worse off

 

[gipper]

The evidence shows otherwise.

Please show the evidence