Have any Liberals reconsidered their stance on the 2nd Amend since Militarized Police

[The2ndAmendment]

I'll tell you what would have happened. The police would have demanded that those with weapons drop them. If they did not drop them immediately, the police would have opened fire and shot at them. Resulting in multiple deaths.

Do you agree?

I do agree, and then the next American Revolution would be underway.

Question for you now:

Are you naive enough to think that such a day will never come in America?

 

[LoneLaugher]

Our Militarized Police Tossed a Stun Grenade at a Baby | Thom Hartmann - News & info from the #1 progressive radio show

 

[LoneLaugher]

Rumble - Militarization of our police | Thom Hartmann - News & info from the #1 progressive radio show

 

[LoneLaugher]

Has the militarization of our police dept. cost us our 4th amendment rights? | Thom Hartmann - News & info from the #1 progressive radio show

 

[LoneLaugher]

militarization of police Archives - TYT Network

 

[LoneLaugher]

Rachel Maddow: Militarization of police tactics - Democratic Underground

 

[LoneLaugher]

Need more?

Get facts.....abandon your bullshit talking points.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'll tell you what would have happened. The police would have demanded that those with weapons drop them. If they did not drop them immediately, the police would have opened fire and shot at them. Resulting in multiple deaths.

Do you agree?

I do agree, and then the next American Revolution would be underway.

Question for you now:

Are you naive enough to think that such a day will never come in America?

Well.....we saw that in action in Nevada. Nobody killed. Why not?

 

[Paperman299]

I'll tell you what would have happened. The police would have demanded that those with weapons drop them. If they did not drop them immediately, the police would have opened fire and shot at them. Resulting in multiple deaths.

Do you agree?

I do agree, and then the next American Revolution would be underway.

Question for you now:

Are you naive enough to think that such a day will never come in America?

Please tell me you're not serious. We've had a decent discussion up until now.

 

[percysunshine]

Have any Liberals reconsidered their stance on the 2nd Amend since Militarized Police

Since when did liberals grow an attention span?

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

I've noticed an absolutely copious number of the Progressive websites discussing the danger of Militarized Police (whilst these same Progressive websites called Libertarians tin-foil hat crowd on the same issue for the past 10 years).

So, may I ask, now that Progressives are acknowledge the dangers of the Militarized Police State (while Republicans seem to like it????), have your ideas concerning the Second Amendment changed at all, or at the very least, are you doing any sort of ideological reconsideration?

As already correctly noted, the premise of the OP fails as ignorant idiocy.

The militarized police were removed from the streets as a result of the people exercising their First Amendment rights, not Second.

Indeed, liberals have always been at the forefront of opposing police tactics hostile to citizens’ civil liberties, the right to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and the right to be free from unwarranted search and seizures in particular.

And liberals haven’t changed their position with regard to the Second Amendment – where liberals acknowledge Heller as settled and accepted case law, that the Second Amendment enshrines an individual right to possess a firearm pursuant to the right of self-defense, and that the Second Amendment right is subject to reasonable restrictions by government, as is the case with all other rights, where our civil rights are inalienable but not absolute.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I'll tell you what would have happened. The police would have demanded that those with weapons drop them. If they did not drop them immediately, the police would have opened fire and shot at them. Resulting in multiple deaths.

Do you agree?

I do agree, and then the next American Revolution would be underway.

Question for you now:

Are you naive enough to think that such a day will never come in America?

At least you’re consistent at being idiotic and insane.

There is no need for ‘another American Revolution,’ regardless your perception from under your tinfoil hat.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Forget the guns. We'll just outfit everyone like this and start bowling them over...

 

[Spoonman]

Absolutely, for the most part. I mean do you really think the intent of the founders was to give every Tom Dick and Harry the ability own unlimited numbers of weapons that can pop off hundreds of high powers rounds in a matter of minutes. Every weapon should be registered and manufactured in such a way that every round is traceable. No law will suffice. A new Amendment is required.

well yea. which is why they said the right to own shall not be infringed. had they wanted limitations and regulation they would have said the right to own shall be confined to or limited to or subject to.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I'll tell you what would have happened. The police would have demanded that those with weapons drop them. If they did not drop them immediately, the police would have opened fire and shot at them. Resulting in multiple deaths.

Do you agree?

I do agree, and then the next American Revolution would be underway.

Question for you now:

Are you naive enough to think that such a day will never come in America?

Well.....we saw that in action in Nevada. Nobody killed. Why not?

Waiting.........

 

[Spoonman]

The violence in Ferguson didn't end because of an armed populace. It ended because Ferguson organized, protested forcefully but peacefully, and the images of their struggle swung public support heavily in their favor.

Exactly. And that is how the Civil Rights Movement won in the '60's. I do not like war weapons in the hands of the police, and I do like them in the hands of civilians. Unneccessary in both cases, and leads to a set of mind that seeks confrontations.

ok great example. the civil rights movement came about because blacks stood up for their rights which we being infringed by unconstitutional laws. they fought and were willing to die to overturn those laws. we didn't call them crazy, we called them right for fighting for their rights. well guess what, gun owners are now fighting for their rights. and they aren't crazy either. they will fight and win.

 

[Spoonman]

Bullshit premise. Liberals have always has a problem with militarized police. We have always acknowledged the dangers of a military police state. We just don't think we have one here.

Our ideas concerning the second amendment haven't changed. We believe that we have the right to bear arms in a well regulated militia. We don't dig the idea of unelected persons having all the weapons. We don't dig the idea of elected persons having all the weapons. We also don't dig the idea of crazed nutbags having any weapons. We abhors the idea of little kids shooting themselves and their little siblings and friends with daddy's gun. We think people who feel the need to carry a gun to buy groceries in this nation are probably ******* lunatics.

I usually avoid these....but I will ask you a "what if" regarding Ferguson.

What if the protesters showed up with assault rifles and pointed them at the police? What would have happened?

So the music aside, it's safe to say that you're still clueless about what the Second Amendment is ultimately all about, right?

Nope. I've got a pretty good handle on it. Thanks.

so its the words shall not be infringed you struggle with

 

[LoneLaugher]

So the music aside, it's safe to say that you're still clueless about what the Second Amendment is ultimately all about, right?

Nope. I've got a pretty good handle on it. Thanks.

so its the words shall not be infringed you struggle with

Nope. I get them just fine.

 

[francoHFW]

What about "militia"? Even Reagan and Scalia had no problem with outlawing weapons before the new bs GOP went mad...

 

[Paperman299]

The violence in Ferguson didn't end because of an armed populace. It ended because Ferguson organized, protested forcefully but peacefully, and the images of their struggle swung public support heavily in their favor.

Exactly. And that is how the Civil Rights Movement won in the '60's. I do not like war weapons in the hands of the police, and I do like them in the hands of civilians. Unneccessary in both cases, and leads to a set of mind that seeks confrontations.

ok great example. the civil rights movement came about because blacks stood up for their rights which we being infringed by unconstitutional laws. they fought and were willing to die to overturn those laws. we didn't call them crazy, we called them right for fighting for their rights. well guess what, gun owners are now fighting for their rights. and they aren't crazy either. they will fight and win.

I'm not big on gun control, and I'm not saying your metaphor is completely wrong but seriously: There is no real legislative threat to gun ownership. Gun owners have won.

There's some call for dramatic gun control among liberals, but they're a handful of Lilliputians trying to tie down a giant with tissue paper. The NRA doesn't just have Congress by the nuts; they nonchalantly loaded those nuts into a double-barreled shotgun and splattered them on a clay pigeon.