Has trump effectively removed any moral standards required to serve the people?

[berg80]

I've never rejected any of their "findings". I've been disgusted by their hyperpartisan investigations and prosecutions of Republicans, conservatives, pro-lifers, Catholics ....

Which gives their clearing Gaetz all that much more credibility.

He wasn't "cleared." The DoJ chose not to press charges. The two are not the same thing.

 

[OldFlame]

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says​

A woman told the House Ethics Committee that she saw Matt Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for the U.S. attorney general, have sex with a minor, her lawyer said Friday.

“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,” Joel Leppard said.

Gaetz, a far-right Republican U.S. representative, resigned from Congress on Wednesday after Trump announced plans to nominate him for attorney general, has denied all allegations of sexual misconduct.

Leppard said the woman he represents testified before the House Ethics Committee in April.

He said he represents two witnesses who have provided testimony to the committee regarding Gaetz.

“The American people deserve to know the truth about the person slated to become the top law enforcement officer in the country” Leppard told NBC News.

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says

Matt Gaetz is president-elect Donald Trump's choice to become U.S. attorney general.

www.nbcnews.com

Reagan broke the unspoken prohibition of a divorcee running for the presidency. Since then trump has shattered any semblance of it. He stole money from a charity, is a convicted criminal, is twice criminally indicted, twice impeached, a two time divorcee, a 26 time recipient of sexual abuse allegations, was found financially accountable for sexual abuse (rape by federal statute), stiffed investors in his casino biz, and was sued dozens of times for failing to pay money he owed to small contractors. He can fairly be described as morally bankrupt.

So here's my question.

If this testimony is accurate...“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,”.........does it matter to the Repubs who voted for trump that the potential future AG had sex with a minor? Are traditional moral standards a thing of the past if the politician in question is in your tribe?

Has your wife ever asked you to stop beating her?

 

[berg80]

The founders were not godless

Some were not Christians but most colonists were

Most of the Founders were philosophically tied to deism, not christianity.

 

[berg80]

Has your wife ever asked you to stop beating her?

You fucked up the question genius.

 

[OldFlame]

"Moral standards"....Oh how fucking precious!

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I laugh every time I see one of these idiots start a thread like this, they're completely tone deaf, dumb, and blind to the reality they created.

 

[Woodznutz]

Meh, that ship sailed with Bubba Clinton.

"Better put some ice on that lip." -Bill Clinton

 

[OldFlame]

You fucked up the question genius.

No, I stated it exactly as I wanted to, it's the equivalent to your op title. Well, has she?

 

[OldFlame]

There were always rumors of Presidents and dalliances. Clinton was known before he ran for President and even talked to the people on TV about it in his way of talking. He became accepted due to Ross Perot running. He betrayed the people with the dalliance with Monica Lewinsky in the White House. Most likely there were more. Anyway, Clinton set the standards.

Clinton is guilty of rape, with several women.

 

[Mac-7]

Most of the Founders were philosophically tied to deism, not christianity.

Some, not most

And they created the Constitution to reflect Christian values

 

[CrusaderFrank]

only for his elite.

i'm sure the rest of us are about to learn what jesus expects of his people.

Complete obedience

 

[OldFlame]

Has trump effectively removed any moral standards required to serve the people?​

Yes. It doesn't even matter to Christians, anymore.

So democrats are the moral authority now, right?

 

[OldFlame]

Never charged by a bunch of witch hunters, who would have crucified him in public and dragged the lifeless body through the streets, if there was anything at all to the charges.

People who live in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones, but they'll never learn that lesson.

 

[OldFlame]

I'd really like an explanation of how this woman 'saw' them having sex? She watched, she participated, no pictures or videos? Let's release the whole story, the circumstances, and who all was involved.

 

[OldFlame]

Bill Clinton was accused of rape just as credibly as Trump was. So was Joe Biden.

More to the point for a Democrat, he was guilty over and over of what Democrat Feminists insisted was the moral equivalent of rape, workplace sexual harassment. He got a pass from those same feminists due to his defense of abortion.

Bill Clinton and his wife ran "The Clinton Foundation" which was nothing more than a organizational "bagman" for policial payoffs to Bill and Hillary.

Yes, it was during that administration that the rule became "it's the economy stupid," not "it's morality."

Great post.

They were the ones that fought the 'religious right' tooth and nail for decades to remove any sense of morality from the public space, and then when they succeed, turn around and try to use that as a weapon. They can go fuck themselves.

 

[OldFlame]

So the DOJ cleared him?

Why is the house still digging?

He was very publicly calling out R's on the ethics committee, including the chair, for violating stock trade laws, i.e. insider trading. Several of them made very convenient trades that made them a lot of money. There was a video as the op on one of these threads on this topic, find it and watch it.

 

[justoffal]

He was very publicly calling out R's on the ethics committee, including the chair, for violating stock trade laws, i.e. insider trading. Several of them made very convenient trades that made them a lot of money. There was a video as the op on one of these threads on this topic, find it and watch it.

I did...and yeah he went right after them.

 

[Rawley]

He wasn't "cleared." The DoJ chose not to press charges. The two are not the same thing.

LOL Yes, you've spewed that nonsense before.

 

[Soupnazi630]

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says​

A woman told the House Ethics Committee that she saw Matt Gaetz, who is President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for the U.S. attorney general, have sex with a minor, her lawyer said Friday.

“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,” Joel Leppard said.

Gaetz, a far-right Republican U.S. representative, resigned from Congress on Wednesday after Trump announced plans to nominate him for attorney general, has denied all allegations of sexual misconduct.

Leppard said the woman he represents testified before the House Ethics Committee in April.

He said he represents two witnesses who have provided testimony to the committee regarding Gaetz.

“The American people deserve to know the truth about the person slated to become the top law enforcement officer in the country” Leppard told NBC News.

Woman told House Ethics Committee she saw Gaetz have sex with minor, her lawyer says

Matt Gaetz is president-elect Donald Trump's choice to become U.S. attorney general.

www.nbcnews.com

Reagan broke the unspoken prohibition of a divorcee running for the presidency. Since then trump has shattered any semblance of it. He stole money from a charity, is a convicted criminal, is twice criminally indicted, twice impeached, a two time divorcee, a 26 time recipient of sexual abuse allegations, was found financially accountable for sexual abuse (rape by federal statute), stiffed investors in his casino biz, and was sued dozens of times for failing to pay money he owed to small contractors. He can fairly be described as morally bankrupt.

So here's my question.

If this testimony is accurate...“My client testified to the House Ethics Committee that she witnessed Rep. Gaetz having sex with a minor at a house party in Orlando in 2017,”.........does it matter to the Repubs who voted for trump that the potential future AG had sex with a minor? Are traditional moral standards a thing of the past if the politician in question is in your tribe?

The moral standard to be upheld here is innocent until proven guilty.

An anonymous woman claiming to have seen something is not an idictment or conviction. It is RUMOR with no credibility.

Men both high and low are targeted with false accusations and smears.

You have listed many allegations against gtrump some of which might be true but you begin and end with an uncorroborated smear against a cabinet pick.

 

[Mac-7]

When a President gets away with behaving -- every single freakin' day -- in a way for which we would scold our children, yeah.

When much of a major world religion, and its leadership, sells its soul to such a person for political gain, yeah.

The question is whether we can recover any of our fundamental decency when he's gone. I won't be expecting it.

Mac1958 voted for biden who showered with his daughter

 

[White 6]

So democrats are the moral authority now, right?

No. There does not appear to be any, anymore, even with Christians.