Has Fascism come to America?

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Your typical cowardly retreat.

Go you your cry corner.

Trump is 'fascist to the core,' Milley says in Woodward book​

The Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com › nation › 2024/10/12
Oct 12, 2024 — The former chairman of the Joint Chiefs says Trump is “the most dangerous person to this country,” echoing dire warnings of others in ...

What John Kelly said about Trump's fascist tendencies | ...​

PBS
https://www.pbs.org › video › trump-threats-1729716746
Oct 23, 2024 — What John Kelly said about Trump's praise of Hitler and fascist tendencies.

 

[DonGlock26]

Then why is your dear leader so fond of them?

Saudi Arabia, home to 15 of the 19 September 11 hijackers ...​

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CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com › CBS Mornings
Sep 10, 2021 — Fifteen of the 19 hijackers were Saudi citizens. The Saudi government has consistently denied any involvement in the 9/11 attacks.

How Trump's first trip compares with past presidents​

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CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2017/05/19 › world › donald-tr...
May 20, 2017 — Trump has arrived in Saudi Arabia for the start of his first foreign trip, becoming the first-ever president to pick the Middle East for their maiden journey.

'I love the Saudis': Trump business ties to kingdom run deep​

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Oct 12, 2018 — “Saudi Arabia, I get along with all of them. They buy apartments from me. They spend $40 million, $50 million,” Trump told a crowd.

Jared Kushner's $2 Billion Investment From Saudi Arabia​

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Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › Business › Breaking News
Mar 21, 2024 — Democrats want to investigate a $2 billion investment Kushner received from Saudi Arabia's sovereign wealth fund despite having “no ...


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[Nuthin' Fancy]

Why was your Cult leader in bed with the Saudi’s?

Broken Promises: Biden's Retreat from Saudi Arabia Accountability - MEDC

mideastdc.org

Biden accused of betrayal of Khashoggi over push to deepen Saudi ties

Activists and Democrats condemn rapprochement – aimed at heading off China – with ‘autocratic, sociopathic government’

www.theguardian.com

Saudi Arabia is becoming one of Biden's most important swing states

"Saudi feels it has to spread its chips," Ali al-Shihabi, board member to one of MbS' Vision 2030 megaprojects, told Newsweek.

www.newsweek.com

Not even close to Trump.

Trump dismisses UN request for FBI to investigate Jamal ...​

The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com › world › jun › jamal-kha...
Jun 23, 2019 — Donald Trump has dismissed a United Nations request for the FBI to investigate the murder of the dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi, ...

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

 

[Mac1958]

Against this blatency, who would blame the left for going down this road?

Yeah, and that's the danger of ideology. It makes everything a shallow, combative zero sum game, all or nothing. It's destructive, but our current political "system" (ha) incentivizes and rewards the very worst impulses of its participants. Unless we CHOOSE to fix the system, there are no brakes on this.

And regarding some attraction to Marxism, going in that direction would also be a shitty, self inflicted wound. We have completely misapplied capitalism, making other options more attractive. Many of those who claim to support capitalism (usually they're the loudest) think that any kind of guardrails or regulation are the bane of capitalism. The fact is, smart, efficient regulation is a critical component of capitalism. We should have learned that from the Meltdown, but we CHOSE not to.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Go away troll.
You don't know WTF you're talking about.
You're in a cult.

You've had your ass handed to you.
Take your lumps and GET LOST, dOPey.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You've had your ass handed to you.
Take your lumps and GET LOST, dOPey.

Poor SeaSwab......

Just like your dear leader, calling a loss, a win.

 

[SeaMajor7]

Poor SeaSwab......

Just like your dear leader, calling a loss, a win.

You call freedom loving People who love our country and Constitution FASCISTS, so you can go **** YOURSELF.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You call freedom loving People who love our country and Constitution FASCISTS, so you can go **** YOURSELF.

No, I'm calling people who CLAIM they love their country, and constitution but don't, FASCIST like YOU and YOUR dear leader.

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth ...​

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2022/12/03 › politics › trump-c...
Dec 4, 2022 — Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power.

Trump says 'there are methods' for seeking a third term ...​

CNN
https://www.cnn.com › 2025/03/30 › politics › trump-t...
Mar 30, 2025 — President Donald Trump on Sunday did not dismiss the idea of pursuing a third term in the White House, despite the 22nd Amendment of the ...

**** you and your dear leader

 

[SeaMajor7]

No, I'm calling people who CLAIM they love their country, and constitution but don't, FASCIST like YOU and YOUR dear leader.

Trump calls for the termination of the Constitution in Truth ...​

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https://www.cnn.com › 2022/12/03 › politics › trump-c...
Dec 4, 2022 — Former President Donald Trump called for the termination of the Constitution to overturn the 2020 election and reinstate him to power.

Trump says 'there are methods' for seeking a third term ...​

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Mar 30, 2025 — President Donald Trump on Sunday did not dismiss the idea of pursuing a third term in the White House, despite the 22nd Amendment of the ...

**** you and your dear leader

Do you EVER post an original thought????

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Do you EVER post an original thought????

Do you EVER stop lying?

 

[BluesLegend]

Do you EVER post an original thought????

A Dem sheeple, with an original thought...

 

[SeaMajor7]

Do you EVER stop lying?

Link to a lie I posted.
GO!!!!!!

 

[justoffal]

Why yes. It has. MAGA!

Seriously though, I never thought I would see this.


Source: What Is Fascism?

“Many experts agree that fascism is a mass political movement that emphasizes extreme nationalism, militarism, and the supremacy of the nation over the individual. This model of government stands in contrast to liberal democracies that support individual rights, competitive elections, and political dissent.

In many ways, fascist regimes are revolutionary in nature. They advocate for the overthrow of existing systems of government and the persecution of political enemies. However, such regimes are also highly conservative in their championing of traditional values.

And although fascist leaders typically claim to support the everyman, in reality, their regimes often align with powerful business interests.”


Sound familiar? It should.

Existing forms of government are being overthrown through the destruction of our institutions with the Executive usurping powers traditionally given to Congress and openly defying the courts when checked.

Note the last line: aligned with powerful business interests: Musk (who is raking in millions in government contracts), Bezos, Zuckerberg.


Characteristics of Facism:

Extreme Nationalism - check.

Fascist leaders believe in the supremacy of certain groups of people based on characteristics such as race, religion, ethnicity, and nationality.


Cult of personality - check.

Fascist regimes cultivate images of their leaders as great figures to be loved and admired. This cult of personality is often perpetuated through mass media and propaganda. …The Pope chalked up Il Duce’s survival of assassination attempts to divine intervention, adding to Mussolini’s mystique.


How did Fascists come to power? This is interesting, because it tracks what has actually been happening.

“It wasn’t overnight. History laid the groundwork – a pattern of liberal decay.

First, fascist parties gained a foothold in government through initially democratic means. However, over time, the party consolidated power, and ultimately secured their dictatorship.”

Note: Trump is seeking ways for a 3rd term and a Congressman is creating a bill to create a path to a 3rd term that only applies to Trump’s situation.

Trump offers individual freedom.
Personal responsibility. The progressive left offers bigger government, no first amendment rights and total control of thought and action.

Case closed

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

A Dem sheeple, with an original thought...

Like your dear leader and his cult?

How Republican lawmakers echo Russian propaganda​

NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › luxury-yachts-m...
Apr 14, 2024 — Two top House Republicans say some of their GOP colleagues are parroting Russian narratives on Ukraine. Here are some examples.

Pro-Russian actors and websites promoted a narrative alleging Zelenskyy bought two superyachts with U.S. aid dollars. One Russia-based propaganda site, DC Weekly, published a story last November that included photos of two luxury yachts, called Lucky Me and My Legacy, which it alleged were bought for $75 million.

Another outspoken critic of aid to Ukraine, Republican Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio, also made a similar claim.

In a December interview with former President Donald Trump’s White House adviser Steve Bannon, Vance claimed that members of Congress wanted to cut Social Security benefits to provide more aid to Ukraine, and that money would allegedly be used for Zelenskyy’s ministers to “buy a bigger yacht.”

“There are people who would cut Social Security, throw our grandparents into poverty. Why? So that one of Zelenskyy’s ministers can buy a bigger yacht?” Vance said. “Kiss my ass, Steve. It’s not happening.”


The tale of Zelenskyy’s luxury yacht, however, turned out to be totally false. The yachts cited in the DC Weekly article remain up for sale, the owners told The Associated Press.

Two academics at Clemson University, disinformation researchers Darren Linvill and Patrick Warren, found that DC Weekly ran numerous stories copied from other sites that were rewritten by artificial intelligence engines. The articles had bylines with fake names along with headshots copied from other online sites.

Trump echoes Russia as he upends US position on Ukraine​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles
Feb 19, 2025 — Trump is echoing Russia's talking points about the war and the Ukrainian president. Russia's ambassador to the UK Andrei Kelin praised the Trump administration ...

Lashing out at Volodymyr Zelensky, who less than three years ago received a standing ovation in Congress for his efforts to resist Russia's invasion, the US president labelled Ukraine's leader a "dictator" and accused him of corruption.

He said Zelensky wanted to "keep the gravy train" of foreign aid running, a day after he appeared to blame Ukraine - not Russia - for starting the war.

"Zelensky better move fast, or he is not going to have a country left," Trump wrote.

It's been just under a week since Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a lengthy phone conversation. Now Trump is echoing Russia's talking points about the war and the Ukrainian president.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Trump offers individual freedom.
Personal responsibility. The progressive left offers bigger government, no first amendment rights and total control of thought and action.

Case closed

You're FOS.

Pure projection........

Marco Rubio Tells Court He Can Deport People For Their ...​

splinter.com
https://www.splinter.com › Articles
4 days ago — And now, Secretary of State Marco “99-0” Rubio has explicitly told the court that he can export anyone he feels like just for what thoughts are ...

In a two-page memo signed by Rubio and obtained by the Associated Press and posted online, the Secretary of State said that the Immigration and Nationality Act allows him to unilaterally deport “an alien” if their presence or activities could have potentially serious consequences to US foreign policy.
Emphasis added: “Under [the INA], for cases in which the basis for this determination is the alien’s past, current or expected beliefs, statements, or associations that are otherwise lawful, the Secretary of State must personally determine that the alien’s presence or activities would compromise a compelling US foreign policy interest.”

Thought police?

A famous quote about the Thought Police in George Orwell's "1984" is: "The Thought Police would get him just the same. He had committed -- would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper -- the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever."

 

[BluesLegend]

Like your dear leader and his cult?

How Republican lawmakers echo Russian propaganda​

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NBC News
https://www.nbcnews.com › politics › luxury-yachts-m...
Apr 14, 2024 — Two top House Republicans say some of their GOP colleagues are parroting Russian narratives on Ukraine. Here are some examples.

Pro-Russian actors and websites promoted a narrative alleging Zelenskyy bought two superyachts with U.S. aid dollars. One Russia-based propaganda site, DC Weekly, published a story last November that included photos of two luxury yachts, called Lucky Me and My Legacy, which it alleged were bought for $75 million.

Another outspoken critic of aid to Ukraine, Republican Sen. J.D. Vance of Ohio, also made a similar claim.

In a December interview with former President Donald Trump’s White House adviser Steve Bannon, Vance claimed that members of Congress wanted to cut Social Security benefits to provide more aid to Ukraine, and that money would allegedly be used for Zelenskyy’s ministers to “buy a bigger yacht.”

“There are people who would cut Social Security, throw our grandparents into poverty. Why? So that one of Zelenskyy’s ministers can buy a bigger yacht?” Vance said. “Kiss my ass, Steve. It’s not happening.”


The tale of Zelenskyy’s luxury yacht, however, turned out to be totally false. The yachts cited in the DC Weekly article remain up for sale, the owners told The Associated Press.

Two academics at Clemson University, disinformation researchers Darren Linvill and Patrick Warren, found that DC Weekly ran numerous stories copied from other sites that were rewritten by artificial intelligence engines. The articles had bylines with fake names along with headshots copied from other online sites.

Trump echoes Russia as he upends US position on Ukraine​

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BBC
https://www.bbc.com › news › articles
Feb 19, 2025 — Trump is echoing Russia's talking points about the war and the Ukrainian president. Russia's ambassador to the UK Andrei Kelin praised the Trump administration ...

Lashing out at Volodymyr Zelensky, who less than three years ago received a standing ovation in Congress for his efforts to resist Russia's invasion, the US president labelled Ukraine's leader a "dictator" and accused him of corruption.

He said Zelensky wanted to "keep the gravy train" of foreign aid running, a day after he appeared to blame Ukraine - not Russia - for starting the war.

"Zelensky better move fast, or he is not going to have a country left," Trump wrote.

It's been just under a week since Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a lengthy phone conversation. Now Trump is echoing Russia's talking points about the war and the Ukrainian president.

LMAO we just mocked you for not having an original thought...and you cut and pasted someone else's thoughts. What a classic Dem post.

 

[Edgetho]

This whole thread is a, "Mister Politician, is it true you beat your wife?" thread.

dims do this all the time.

Everybody with two brain cells to rub together knows Fascism was, and still is, socialist thought. Even the Community College idiots at Wiki know that much.

What's next? "America is Ray-Cist!"? or a tried and true , "America is Misogynist!"

I guess they're still better than the record-setting gay butt-sex threads set in here, which are slowly being replaced by dimocrap scum gay trans-sex butt-ranger sex Threads

Do better

 

[Correll]

His method of attempting to control the media is just one point in the 14 points of Fascism. Damn, can't you even keep your lie on track without sounding like a complete (not partial) idiot, MAGAt.

pushing back on the hostility is not an attempt to control.

 

[Correll]

You can’t force a candidate to run. Again, this is internal party politics and rules here, not laws.

I didn't. He choose to run, when he was unable. Then he was forced out.

It’s perfectly legal and the money was given to the Biden/Harris ticket, not each separately.

The best bait and switches follow the letter of the law.

It wasn’t exactly the voter’s choice. When the incumbent is on the ticket, the party traditionally supports him and won’t throw their support (and massive campaign dollars) behind another candidate. You can have others on the ticket, but they are usually weak and fall away. Look at Trunp’s primary in 2020 for example.

YOur entire argument has been that hte party can do what it wants and now you are reversing on a dime.

Nice. This shows that you don't mean ANYTHING you say.

Meh. I’m not a member of any party. But, I now see why you guys are so upset Biden dropped out, you wanted a “crushing” “total” defeat (and therefore a mandate) and instead your guy barely won with the one of the thinnest margins of victory in 60 years and one of the lowest approval ratings fora new president. Considering Harris had only a few months to develop a campaign and sell herself to America, I’m impressed she did so well. The Dem voters seem happier with her than Biden.

LOL. You claim to not be a member of the party and then spout a bunch of partisan talking points. Perfect.

Parties CAN and do. There is no law against it. I don’t see the Dems complaining nor their voters. In fact, the only ones who are seem to be Republicans.

You were asking why I care. I told you. That the party was within it's legal... legal-ish rights to do what it did, does not mean that I shouldn't care.

This is just laughable given the way rightwing MSM works. So you want destroy media with opposing views and allow only media that supports your policies and president? Really?

Did you see the grotesque “dear leader” cabinet meeting? Is that how media should report stuff?

NO, I want legacy media to die and for news to come mostly from new alternative media.