Happiness in Islam

[BackAgain]

I know. I was comparing how everyone believes God is on their side. Thus showing how religion is just a tool. Man has some innate need to be seen as good even when he isn't. It's crazy.

I understand. But even Christianity isn't immune from being used to justify things that aren't good. Does this make religion bad? No. It's the people or specifically how people abuse religion.

I am not addressing how it has been used. In my view, only morons would defend the Inquisition, for example.

That’s why I love mites myself to discussing its precepts.

 

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I am not addressing how it has been used. In my view, only morons would defend the Inquisition, for example.

That’s why I love mites myself to discussing its precepts.

Overzealousness aside, the Inquisition established the inquisitorial legal system (or inquisitio), a foundational legal procedure adopted for capital crimes in medieval Europe. It introduced rational evidentiary systems, including meticulous written record-keeping, preliminary investigations (dossier-building), and the necessity of corroborated evidence, and placing the burden of proof on the court rather than the plaintiff. Prior to the inquisition burden of proof was on the plaintiff rather than the court.

Is this me defending it or just stating reality?

 

[BackAgain]

Overzealousness aside, the Inquisition established the inquisitorial legal system (or inquisitio), a foundational legal procedure adopted for capital crimes in medieval Europe. It introduced rational evidentiary systems, including meticulous written record-keeping, preliminary investigations (dossier-building), and the necessity of corroborated evidence, and placing the burden of proof on the court rather than the plaintiff. Prior to the inquisition burden of proof was on the plaintiff rather than the court.

Is this me defending it or just stating reality?

The Inquisition is given a bit too much credit by you.

The burden of proof is on the plaintiff to this day.

 

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The Inquisition is given a bit too much credit by you.

The burden of proof is on the plaintiff to this day.

I missed stated it. It was the other way around.

 

[hadit]

lol... Grrrrr!

I would rather be crucified upside down than to pay homage to the Antichrist, your imaginary god and savior, the spawn of a Roman trinity that became a man who died for oblivious you.

Believe that.

Oh, I believe you resist being subject to the Christ with every part of your being. It's obvious with every post you make that perverts the plain meaning of Scripture. That's totally irrelevant, however, to the reality that you will bow before Him.

 

[Hafar1014]

Overzealousness aside, the Inquisition established the inquisitorial legal system (or inquisitio), a foundational legal procedure adopted for capital crimes in medieval Europe. It introduced rational evidentiary systems, including meticulous written record-keeping, preliminary investigations (dossier-building), and the necessity of corroborated evidence, and placing the burden of proof on the court rather than the plaintiff. Prior to the inquisition burden of proof was on the plaintiff rather than the court.

Is this me defending it or just stating reality?

Being a Jew was capital crime in their Christian minds
The Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834) was a judicial institution established by the "Catholic Monarchs," King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castile. Its stated goal was to maintain Christian orthodoxy in their kingdoms, primarily by identifying and punishing "heretics" among those who had converted to Catholicism from Judaism and Islam.
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Key Facts at a Glance

• Established: November 1, 1478, via a papal bull from Pope Sixtus IV.
• Primary Targets: Conversos (Jewish converts) and Moriscos (Muslim converts) suspected of secretly practicing their former faiths.
• Authority: Uniquely, it was directly under the control of the Spanish Crown rather than the Pope.
• First Grand Inquisitor: Tomás de Torquemada, whose name became synonymous with the institution's early brutality.
• Final Abolition: July 15, 1834, by Queen Regent María Cristina de Borbón.
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The Inquisitorial Process
The Inquisition operated through a highly organized and bureaucratic system of tribunals:
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1. Edicts of Grace/Faith: Upon arriving in a town, inquisitors would give a 30-to-40-day grace period for people to confess their heresies and denounce others.
2. Secret Denunciations: Most cases began with anonymous accusations. The accused often did not know the identity of their accuser or the specific evidence against them.
3. Torture: While not used as a final punishment, torture (such as the rack or water torture) was used to extract confessions or the names of other "heretics".
4. Auto-da-fé: An "act of faith"—a massive public ceremony where sentences were read out. These were often elaborate, festive spectacles attended by royalty and the general public.
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Impact and Scale

• Prosecutions & Deaths: Modern estimates suggest roughly 150,000 people were prosecuted over three centuries, with 3,000 to 5,000 executions.
• Expulsion of 1492: Under pressure from Torquemada, the monarchs issued the Alhambra Decree, forcing all Jews who would not convert to leave Spain.
• Censorship: The Inquisition maintained an "Index" of prohibited books, including scientific works and major literary titles, to curb the spread of heretical ideas.
• Legacy: Studies indicate that regions in Spain most affected by the Inquisition still show lower levels of economic activity, education, and trust today.
  Wikipedia +4

The "Black Legend" vs. Historical Revision
Modern historians often distinguish between the actual historical records and the "Black Legend"—a body of anti-Spanish and anti-Catholic propaganda that originated in the 16th century. While undeniably brutal, recent research suggests that the Inquisition's jails were often better than secular ones, and its legal procedures were sometimes more regularized than other European courts of the same era.
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Would you like to learn more about a specific part of the Inquisition, such as the role of Torquemada or the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews?

 

[Hafar1014]

Oh, I believe you resist being subject to the Christ with every part of your being. It's obvious with every post you make that perverts the plain meaning of Scripture. That's totally irrelevant, however, to the reality that you will bow before Him.

No one has to believe in Jesus its a choice and there is nothing wrong with that. For me I just cant believe in a god with a Puerto Rican name.

 

[hobelim]

Oh, I believe you resist being subject to the Christ with every part of your being. It's obvious with every post you make that perverts the plain meaning of Scripture. That's totally irrelevant, however, to the reality that you will bow before Him.

I will bow before what?

Your substitute counterfeit ascetic supernatural Jesus and spawn of a mithraic trinity, the Antichrist, conjured from the depths of a Roman hell and unleashed on the world in 325ce?

Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin. Devils demons ghouls weasels and worms could not make me do that when I was in the second grade. And they tried every trick in the book.

What chance does a pustule on the ass of the devil oozing bile and giving off putrid smells think there is that I will bow down to your false ascetic counterfeit Jesus, the Antichrist, now?

How do you expect to escape the condemnation of the hell you are already in? With deceit? Threats of imaginary punishment? lol. Derision? Calumny? Scurrilous accusations? Idolatry?




You are trying to get me to bow down on bended knee to a false god. What a guy! I am telling you that if you ever hope to become a living being you will crawl out of your deathbed stand upright and walk like a man made in the image and likeness of one Holy separate God.

 

[hadit]

I will bow before what?

Your substitute counterfeit ascetic supernatural Jesus and spawn of a mithraic trinity, the Antichrist, conjured from the depths of a Roman hell and unleashed on the world in 325ce?

Not by the hair on my chinny chin chin. Devils demons ghouls weasels and worms could not make me do that when I was in the second grade. And they tried every trick in the book.

What chance does a pustule on the ass of the devil oozing bile and giving off putrid smells think there is that I will bow down to your false ascetic counterfeit Jesus, the Antichrist, now?

How do you expect to escape the condemnation of the hell you are already in? With deceit? Threats of imaginary punishment? lol. Derision? Calumny? Scurrilous accusations? Idolatry?




You are trying to get me to bow down on bended knee to a false god. What a guy! I am telling you that if you ever hope to become a living being you will crawl out of your deathbed stand upright and walk like a man made in the image and likeness of one Holy separate God.

You can fight, deny and pervert Scripture all you want, it only makes you an enemy of God and makes no difference in the end. You will bow before the Christ and confess that He is the Lord. The Father proclaimed He is well pleased with Him, so you might want to get on board.

 

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Being a Jew was capital crime in their Christian minds
The Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834) was a judicial institution established by the "Catholic Monarchs," King Ferdinand II of Aragon and Queen Isabella I of Castile. Its stated goal was to maintain Christian orthodoxy in their kingdoms, primarily by identifying and punishing "heretics" among those who had converted to Catholicism from Judaism and Islam.
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Key Facts at a Glance

• Established: November 1, 1478, via a papal bull from Pope Sixtus IV.
• Primary Targets: Conversos (Jewish converts) and Moriscos (Muslim converts) suspected of secretly practicing their former faiths.
• Authority: Uniquely, it was directly under the control of the Spanish Crown rather than the Pope.
• First Grand Inquisitor: Tomás de Torquemada, whose name became synonymous with the institution's early brutality.
• Final Abolition: July 15, 1834, by Queen Regent María Cristina de Borbón.
  Wikipedia +7

The Inquisitorial Process
The Inquisition operated through a highly organized and bureaucratic system of tribunals:
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1. Edicts of Grace/Faith: Upon arriving in a town, inquisitors would give a 30-to-40-day grace period for people to confess their heresies and denounce others.
2. Secret Denunciations: Most cases began with anonymous accusations. The accused often did not know the identity of their accuser or the specific evidence against them.
3. Torture: While not used as a final punishment, torture (such as the rack or water torture) was used to extract confessions or the names of other "heretics".
4. Auto-da-fé: An "act of faith"—a massive public ceremony where sentences were read out. These were often elaborate, festive spectacles attended by royalty and the general public.
   Wikipedia +5

Impact and Scale

• Prosecutions & Deaths: Modern estimates suggest roughly 150,000 people were prosecuted over three centuries, with 3,000 to 5,000 executions.
• Expulsion of 1492: Under pressure from Torquemada, the monarchs issued the Alhambra Decree, forcing all Jews who would not convert to leave Spain.
• Censorship: The Inquisition maintained an "Index" of prohibited books, including scientific works and major literary titles, to curb the spread of heretical ideas.
• Legacy: Studies indicate that regions in Spain most affected by the Inquisition still show lower levels of economic activity, education, and trust today.
  Wikipedia +4

The "Black Legend" vs. Historical Revision
Modern historians often distinguish between the actual historical records and the "Black Legend"—a body of anti-Spanish and anti-Catholic propaganda that originated in the 16th century. While undeniably brutal, recent research suggests that the Inquisition's jails were often better than secular ones, and its legal procedures were sometimes more regularized than other European courts of the same era.
Catholic Answers +1
Would you like to learn more about a specific part of the Inquisition, such as the role of Torquemada or the expulsion of the Sephardic Jews?

That's nice. What was you point exactly?

 

[hobelim]

You can fight, deny and pervert Scripture all you want, it only makes you an enemy of God and makes no difference in the end. You will bow before the Christ and confess that He is the Lord. The Father proclaimed He is well pleased with Him, so you might want to get on board.

pathetic.

Let me make myself perfectly clear. I really don't mind being an enemy to your imaginary trinity that became a supernatural mangod who was a "perfect human sacrifice" (to himself) so that dimwits like you can remain oblivious assholes, confuse faith with obstinate stupidity, being UNAWARE with a state of grace, and sin with impunity for life. As long as you bow down to and worship the ANTICHRIST every now and then on Sunday and high holiday.

I WOULD RATHER BE CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN.

Was that clear? Any other questions comments false accusations or stupid things to say?

 

[hobelim]

No one has to believe in Jesus its a choice and there is nothing wrong with that. For me I just cant believe in a god with a Puerto Rican name.

¿Por quién diablos me ha tomado oiga usted cabron? ¿A qué viene ese maltrato sin justificación?

Tenga mucho cuidado en su proceder, no me obligue a enseñarle lo que yo sé.

 

[hadit]

pathetic.

Let me make myself perfectly clear. I really don't mind being an enemy to your imaginary trinity that became a supernatural mangod who was a "perfect human sacrifice" (to himself) so that dimwits like you can remain oblivious assholes, confuse faith with obstinate stupidity, being UNAWARE with a state of grace, and sin with impunity for life. As long as you bow down to and worship the ANTICHRIST every now and then on Sunday and high holiday.

Which holidays are those again? I always need somebody who is not me to tell me what I do and do not do.

I WOULD RATHER BE CRUCIFIED UPSIDE DOWN.

Was that clear? Any other questions comments false accusations or stupid things to say?

And again, you reveal your source of Spiritual wisdom to be Youtube. Are you starting to understand why no one takes you seriously, anywhere?

 

[hobelim]

Are you starting to understand why no one takes you seriously, anywhere?

Thats is quite a statement from you who doesn't have a clue that many people are not as dead as you. Everything I have made known I have drawn from what Jesus taught. If his teaching was in you you would not be arguing with me about anything. You would be doing something, anything, to save your soul from destruction, finally seeing Jesus face to face.

You died in childhood. What you "believe" you learned to say by rote. Psst! Rising from the dead is as easy or as difficult as it is for anyone to be honest with themselves and others.

Its a do or die situation.

So try to accept the fact that the resurrected dead are already standing all around watching.

Billions and billions from every religion, belief, unbelief, race, tribe, nation, and language.

 

[hadit]

Thats is quite a statement from you who doesn't have a clue that many people are not as dead as you. Everything I have made known I have drawn from what Jesus taught. If his teaching was in you you would not be arguing with me about anything. You would be doing something, anything, to save your soul from destruction, finally seeing Jesus face to face.

You will bow your knee to Him, whether you want to or not. I won't have anything to do with it, but I might see you do it, kicking and screaming that you don't want to.

You died in childhood.

Wow, quite a statement coming from someone who knows nothing about me at all. Kind of futilely lashing out there, I believe most would say.

What you "believe" you learned to say by rote.

Wow, another wild statement. You're really going for it today, aren't you?

Psst! Rising from the dead is as easy or as difficult as it is for anyone to be honest with themselves and others.

So, you claim to have raised yourself from the dead. Quite a claim there, quite a claim.

Its a do or die situation.

I am not dead, I am alive in Christ despite your puerile, desperate attempts to find some relevance for yourself.

So try to accept the fact that the resurrected dead are already standing all around watching.

How many of them did you raise from the dead again?

Billions and billions from every religion, belief, unbelief, race, tribe, nation, and language.

IOW, you do not accept what Jesus said when He said He was the door, the gate, the only way to the Father. Again you disagree with Scripture on its face.

 

[hobelim]

Wow, quite a statement coming from someone who knows nothing about me at all. Kind of futilely lashing out there, I believe most would say.

Ahem. You told me that you were indoctrinated into your beliefs as a child. remember? No?

Thats a shame.

 

[hadit]

Ahem. You told me that you were indoctrinated into your beliefs as a child. remember? No?

Thats a shame.

This is where the wheels fall off your tricycle. I came to faith in Christ as a child, there was no indoctrination involved, only introduction. Now, when did you realize your warped view of reality was getting you nowhere?

 

[hobelim]

IOW, you do not accept what Jesus said when He said He was the door, the gate, the only way to the Father. Again you disagree with Scripture on its face.

So what did he mean by saying that if not that he taught the only right WAY to understand and comply with the Divine commands that fulfills the promise of abundant blessings and eternal life on earth in the sanctuary of God, now, not at the end of time or when your body dies.

See? I do accept what Jesus said which was nothing about bowing down to a trinity, the antichrist. So take your delusions, lies, perversions and obscenities and ram it up your snout.