Happiness in Islam

[hobelim]

Given that I don't know the fate of others or myself, I'm pretty sure you don't either.

I am so happy, delighted, that you are pretty sure. Personally I wouldn't bet my soul or eternal life on "pretty sure", but then again, I'm not you. I don't have the kind of faith it takes to be a pretentious hypocrite, a vain cheese bag actor and transparent lying fraud for life.

Praise God! Thank you Jesus!

 

[ding]

I am so happy, delighted, that you are pretty sure. Personally I wouldn't bet my soul or eternal life on "pretty sure", but then again, I'm not you.

Praise God! Thank you Jesus!

Everything is almost always a distribution. I don't make absolute statements casually. I'm almost always going to throw in a caveat. See? I just did it again. But suffice it to say, you are almost always wrong on almost everything. So I'm pretty sure you don't know the fate of yourself or others. You just think you do.

 

[The Irish Ram]

The one true God has a Son that redeemed the world. Allah has no son.
I'm going with the one that defeated death and came back to prove it...

 

[ding]

Personally I wouldn't bet my soul or eternal life on "pretty sure"

I'm not. I'm betting it on my belief that....

you are almost always wrong on almost everything. So I'm pretty sure you don't know the fate of yourself or others. You just think you do.

 

[BackAgain]

Happiness is a feeling that resides in the heart. It is characterized by peace of mind, tranquility, a sense of well-being, and a relaxed disposition. It comes as a result of proper behavior, both inward and outward, and is inspired by strong faith. This is attested to by the Qur’ân and Sunnah.
Allah says:
- Whoever works righteousness as a believer, whether male or female, We will give a good life.

- Then, whoever follows My guidance shall neither go astray nor be distressed. But whoever turns away from My reminder will have a life of hardship.

Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) said: “True enrichment does not come through possessing a lot of wealth, but true enrichment is the enrichment of the soul.”

Follow guidance to kill the unbelievers?

Hard pass. Islam is a religion of insane hate and violence.

 

[ding]

I don't have the kind of faith it takes to be a pretentious hypocrite, a vain cheese bag actor and transparent lying fraud for life. Praise God! Thank you Jesus!

Other people's religion shouldn't make you this upset and crazy.

 

[ding]

Islam is a religion of insane hate and violence.

How do you think the Canaanites felt about Judaism? Or the Ottoman Empire felt about Catholicism? Religion is a tool. Just like a gun is a tool. Are guns violent? Do guns hate? The common denominator is people not necessarily religion.

 

[hobelim]

How do you think the Canaanites felt about Judaism? Or the Ottoman Empire felt about Catholicism? Religion is a tool. Just like a gun is a tool. Are guns violent? Do guns hate? The common denominator is people not necessarily religion.

Nonsense. If the religion calls for the slaughter of unbelievers then its the religion that causes the beguiled to become violent just like your church has done with the inquisition witch hunts etc., and the reason Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed was violence, not homosexuality.

or unbelievers.

 

[hobelim]

Other people's religion shouldn't make you this upset and crazy.

Crazy? lol.

You ain't seen nothin yet. One day you will look back on the depths of your depravity and cry.

Till then... Sweet dreams!

 

[BackAgain]

How do you think the Canaanites felt about Judaism? Or the Ottoman Empire felt about Catholicism? Religion is a tool. Just like a gun is a tool. Are guns violent? Do guns hate? The common denominator is people not necessarily religion.

If only that were true.

Let me give you a partial summary of Christian articles of faith.

Love God. Love other people as you love yourself. Oh, and here’s a biggie: “turn the other cheek.”

Now let’s cover the detestable counsel of Islam. “Kill the unbelievers.”

The very precepts of Islam demand active and violent hatred of others.

 

[ding]

If only that were true.

Let me give you a partial summary of Christian articles of faith.

Love God. Love other people as you love yourself. Oh, and here’s a biggie: “turn the other cheek.”

Now let’s cover the detestable counsel of Islam. “Kill the unbelievers.”

The very precepts of Islam demand active and violent hatred of others.

I haven't read the Quran. From what I recall the Quran has two parts. So let's test that.

The assertion that the core precepts of Islam demand active and violent hatred of others is a subject of intense debate, with interpretations varying significantly between mainstream scholars and extremist groups. While violent groups often cite specific Quranic verses to justify their actions, the vast majority of Muslims and many scholars argue that these verses are misinterpreted and taken out of historical context, maintaining that Islam promotes peace, justice, and mercy.

Key Aspects of the Debate:

• Contextual Interpretation: Many scholars argue that verses often quoted to suggest a command for violence, such as the "sword verses" (e.g., Surah 9:5), were revealed in the context of specific battles and defensive war against hostile tribes who violated treaties, rather than a general command to attack all non-believers.
• Prohibition of Aggression: The Quran explicitly forbids initiating aggression, stating, "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but do not transgress. Indeed, Allah does not love transgressors" (2:190).
• Peace and Tolerance: The Quran and the teachings of the Prophet Muhammad encourage peaceful coexistence, justice for all (even enemies, 5:8), and specifically label Christians and Jews as "People of the Book," recommending respectful interaction.
• Jihad Definition: While extremists often interpret "jihad" solely as "holy war," many scholars highlight that the primary meaning is a "struggle" to be a better person (inner struggle) or to establish justice.
• Extremist Misinterpretation: Acts of terror are often condemned by mainstream scholars as violations of Islamic legal principles, which prohibit the killing of civilians and non-combatants.
  

Conversely, some critics, scholars, and former Muslims argue that certain texts and the historical example of the Prophet Muhammad do endorse violence and that these commands can be viewed as universal rather than limited to the 7th-century context. They contend that without significant reinterpretation, these texts can, and do, inspire violence.

Ultimately, how Islamic texts are understood is a central issue in Islamic thinking on war and peace, with a wide range of interpretations existing within the faith.

 

[ding]

If only that were true.

Let me give you a partial summary of Christian articles of faith.

Love God. Love other people as you love yourself. Oh, and here’s a biggie: “turn the other cheek.”

Now let’s cover the detestable counsel of Islam. “Kill the unbelievers.”

The very precepts of Islam demand active and violent hatred of others.

How do you think the Canaanites felt about Judaism?

 

[ding]

Nonsense. If the religion calls for the slaughter of unbelievers then its the religion that causes the beguiled to become violent just like your church has done with the inquisition witch hunts etc.,

You mean like the God of Abraham telling the Israelites to slaughter the Canaanites?

and the reason Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed was violence, not homosexuality.
or unbelievers.

Take that up with the Jews on this board.

 

[ding]

Crazy? lol.

You ain't seen nothin yet. One day you will look back on the depths of your depravity and cry.

Till then... Sweet dreams!

You've got some spittle on your chin from your outburst.

 

[BackAgain]

How do you think the Canaanites felt about Judaism?

I don’t see why that matters.

 

[ding]

I don’t see why that matters.

How can it not?

 

[BackAgain]

How can it not?

It’s irrelevant to the topic of Islam being a hate filled religion that demands violence.
For some examples:

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5)
Often called the “Sword Verse”:

“Then when the sacred months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them…”

Sweet, peaceful and loving.

Next?

Surah At-Tawbah (9:29)

“Fight those who do not believe… among the People of the Book…”

Ah. Allah demands religious freedom! Not.

Next?

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12)

“Strike their necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

Lovely. Peaceful. Tolerance. Uhm. No.

There are plenty more. And I know that apologists on behalf of Islam try to pawn off a claim that these Qu’ranic verses are all specifically related to various historical battles. But, come on. They say what they say and they mean what they clearly do mean.

 

[ding]

It’s irrelevant to the topic of Islam being a hate filled religion that demands violence.
For some examples:

Surah At-Tawbah (9:5)
Often called the “Sword Verse”:

“Then when the sacred months have passed, kill the polytheists wherever you find them…”

Sweet, peaceful and loving.

Next?

Surah At-Tawbah (9:29)

“Fight those who do not believe… among the People of the Book…”

Ah. Allah demands religious freedom! Not.

Next?

Surah Al-Anfal (8:12)

“Strike their necks and strike from them every fingertip.”

Lovely. Peaceful. Tolerance. Uhm. No.

There are plenty more. And I know that apologists on behalf of Islam try to pawn off a claim that these Qu’ranic verses are all specifically related to various historical battles. But, come on. They say what they say and they mean what they clearly do mean.

So just like the God of Abraham ordering a genocide?

 

[BackAgain]

So just like the God of Abraham ordering a genocide?

I wasn’t comparing Islam to Judaism.

The position I staked out was that the precepts of Christianity is clearly one of love and peace. The precepts of Islam simply aren’t.

 

[ding]

I wasn’t comparing Islam to Judaism.

I know. I was comparing how everyone believes God is on their side. Thus showing how religion is just a tool. Man has some innate need to be seen as good even when he isn't. It's crazy.

The position I staked out was that the precepts of Christianity is clearly one of love and peace. The precepts of Islam simply aren’t.

I understand. But even Christianity isn't immune from being used to justify things that aren't good. Does this make religion bad? No. It's the people or specifically how people abuse religion.