Hamas Threatens Another Attack

[teddyearp]

Israel does not have any "civilians." You should know that already.

Tell that to Lipush and Daniyel.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You know very well that this has been all linked to you before.

I call your and raise you a

Indeed, you have never researched to prove your premise to be true.

That is pretty sloppy work.

(COMMENT)

Your attempt to confuse the issue is merely an attempt to justify unlawful activity on the part of the Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

 

[teddyearp]

The sloppy work, Mr. Tinmore, is the way you take the coulda, woulda and shoulda, weave it into a web of fantasy, add some discarded proclamations and outdated laws and procedures. Then you believe all that foofaraw like a grownup who still believes in the Easter Claus. Pathetic.

I liken Timore to one who makes pretzels.

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You know very well that this has been all linked to you before.

Indeed, you have never researched to prove your premise to be true.

That is pretty sloppy work.

(COMMENT)

Your attempt to confuse the issue is merely an attempt to justify unlawful activity on the part of the Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

 

[Hossfly]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You know very well that this has been all linked to you before.

(COMMENT)

Your attempt to confuse the issue is merely an attempt to justify unlawful activity on the part of the Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You know very well that this has been all linked to you before.

(COMMENT)

Your attempt to confuse the issue is merely an attempt to justify unlawful activity on the part of the Palestinians.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

 

[toastman]

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

He's quite the character that Tinmore now isn't he

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you saying that what I posted is false?

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

 

[toastman]

No shit !

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debating things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Are you implying that you have researched your premise?

Could you share that research with us?

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debating things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

 

[toastman]

Is this one of your new techniques that you use when you know you're wrong?

Something like this does not need research. Your quote applies to occupied territories.
BTW, you are the one who came up with the claim while providing zero proof to back it up

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

 

[P F Tinmore]

You have not provided any evidence to show that it is not occupied territory.

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

 

[Hossfly]

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

 

[Vigilante]

 

[P F Tinmore]

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

Cool video. It is not that elusive document that I have been looking for though.

 

[toastman]

You're a moron.

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

First off, the Armistice agreements did not call all of Palestine Palestine. They had nothing to do with Palestine. The agreements were between Israel and other countries, so what do you mean Israel is not mentioned? Again, the agreements were between ISRAEL and ARAB STATES.

"Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired"

No, this is another one of your lies. What you just posted is a Tinmore pre requisite. Acquiring land has nothing to do with this. That's a real estate issue.
Where is your link saying Israel needed to have acquired land??

 

[theliq]

Do you mean for the Palestinians or Jews Vig., because both side have mouthed this Utterance.......

 

[toastman]

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

Cool video. It is not that elusive document that I have been looking for though.

You made up the acquiring land document. And now you act as if no one provides you with it, that you are somehow correct.
Again, acquiring land is a TINMORE pre requisite.

 

[theliq]

You are the one who cannot prove your point.

Because there's nothing to prove. It's an idiotic statement. It's called Israel. Not occupied Israel. Only a moron would think what you think. I have no problem debatingpid things up for debate, but I will not stoop to your low level and debate something as stupid as this.

Nice duck.

You're a moron Tinmore. Even the Palestinian government recognizes Israel .

I feel stupid even discussing this

What's your proof that Israel is occupied (this should be fun)

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

How silly of you Hoss..stevie says,you can do better my friend

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I think this was all addressed before, but just in case it has not, let's make sure.

The 1949 UN Armistice Agreements call all of Palestine Palestine. There is not even a hint of a place called Israel present on that land. This is in compliance with international law that forbids the acquisition of land by war.

(COMMENT)

Your observation is 100% wrong.

• For the President of the Security Council: “I have the honour to inform you that an armistice agreement between Egypt and Israel has been signed this morning, 24 February at Rhodes. EGYPTIAN-ISRAELI GENERAL ARMISTICE AGREEMENT: S/1264/Corr.1 23 February 1949

• For the President of the Security Council: “I have the honour to inform the Security Council that a General Armistice Agreement, in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948, was signed by the delegations of Israel and Syria at Hill 232, near Mahanayim on 20 July 1949. The text of the Agreement is as follows:ISRAELI-SYRIAN GENERAL ARMISTICE AGREEMENT S/1353 20 July 1949

• For the President of the Security Council: “I have honour to inform the Security Council that a general armistice agreement, in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of sixteen November 1948, was signed by the delegations of Israel and Lebanon at Ras En Naqura on twentythree March 1949. The text of the agreement is as follows:LEBANESE-ISRAELI GENERAL ARMISTICE AGREEMENT S/1296 23 March 1949

• For the President of the Security Council: I have the honour to inform you that an Armistice Agreement between the Hashemite Jordan Kingdom and Israel has been signed this evening, 3 April 1949, at Rhodes. The text of the Agreement is as follow: GENERAL ARMISTICE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE HASHEMITE KINGDOM OF JORDAN AND ISRAEL S/1302 4 April 1949

The 1949 Armistice Agreements, of which there are four (4) cited above, where individually drawn-up between the principle four aggressor nations (Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon, Syria) that crossed their borders into the neighboring state (Israel). The parties to the Armistice are individually named in capital letters.

Israel can only acquire land through treaty defining exactly what land is being acquired.

So far, nobody has been able to produce such a document.

(COMMENT)

Relative to the current territorial dispute between the Israeli's and the Palestinians (West Bank and Gaza Strip), the "Treaties" which are applicable are:

The importance if this cannot be over emphasized. Both Armistice Agreements, having been orchestrated by the same influence of Truce Supervision Organization, use the same format and language:

Originally Posted by shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved

Originally Posted by Article XII, Para 2 Israeli-Jordanian Armistice
This Agreement, having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paraagraph 3 of this article.

Originally Posted by Article XII, Para 2, Israeli-Egyptian Armistice
This Agreement, having been negotiated and concluded in pursuance of the resolution of the Security Council of 16 November 1948 calling for the establishment of an Armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved, except as provided in paragraph 3 of this Article.
​

The important phrase is behind the meaning of: "establishment of an Armistice in order to eliminate the threat to the peace in Palestine and to facilitate the transition from the present truce to permanent peace in Palestine, shall remain in force until a peaceful settlement between the Parties is achieved."

THUS: The Armistice Arrangement is no longer "in force" once a peaceful settlement is achieved (Arab Republic of Egypt and the State of Israel, 26 March 1979 - and the - State of Israel and the Government of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, 26 October 1994). Remembering that there was no Armistice signed with the Palestinians (not a party to the conflict and not a state able to enter into agreement under the Treaty Law Convention), the Armistice Lines between were dissolved by the agreement and were replaced by international boundaries stipulated permanent peace agreements in:

Originally Posted by TREATY EXCERPTS

Originally Posted by Israeli-Egyptian Peace Treaty
Article II

The permanent boundary between Egypt and Israel is the recognized international boundary between Egypt and the former mandated territory of Palestine, as shown on the map at Annex II, without prejudice to the issue of the status of the Gaza Strip. The Parties recognize this boundary as inviolable. Each will respect the territorial integrity of the other, including their territorial waters and airspace.​

Originally Posted by Israeli-Jordanian Peace Treaty
Article 3 - International Boundary

1. The international boundary between Israel and Jordan is delimited with reference to the boundary definition under the Mandate as is shown in Annex I(a), on the mapping materials attached thereto and co-ordinates specified therein.​

So, the next question is: What holds the boundaries we commonly refer to as the 1949 Armistice Line between Israel and Palestine? That would be the "Oslo Accords" the basic framework document and interim agreement between Israel and the Palestinians. Because the 1949 Armistice Lines applied to Israel with Egypt and Jordan; and not the Palestinian as a concerned party. The Palestinians were not party to the Agreements.

Most Respectfully,
R