Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[JoeB131]

Whining ? ...please you're the one tha wines about Jews on every thread you can find... you stupid f*** get the hell out of here hater.. you're just like you're German forefathers

Naw, guy I only complain about Zionists in threads about Zionists.

Funny how that works.

 

[Jroc]

Naw, guy I only complain about Zionists in threads about Zionists.

Funny how that works.

You actively search out that Jew hate threads.....you have wet dreams about dead Jews, and Jews locked up in prison camps it's in your blood

 

[JoeB131]

You actively search out that Jew hate threads.....you have wet dreams about dead Jews, and Jews locked up in prison camps it's in your blood

all the threads about Israel are started by Zionists...

Seems your punishment is self inflicted.

This thread, for instance, was started by TooMuchTime.

 

[Jroc]

all the threads about Israel are started by Zionists...

Seems your punishment is self inflicted.

This thread, for instance, was started by TooMuchTime.

The question isn't how many threads are started, the question is how many threads you seek hater..... You're miserable little man always have been on his board

 

[JoeB131]

The question isn't how many threads are started, the question is how many threads you seek hater..... You're miserable little man always have been on his board

Okay, challenge accepted.

I am just looking right now at my "Watched Threads" screen.

On the first page, there are 56 threads I have participated in or posted to since the August 9th.

Of those - only 6 are Jewish or Israel related.

One of them is a Holocaust Denial Thread started by Street Juice and contributed to largely by Grau. On that thread, I actually challenge idiots who claim the Holocaust didn't happen. (My dad was with the US troops that liberated Nordhausen, the Holocaust Happened.)

Of the other threads, three of them were started by Lisa, claiming it is the worst thing ever that a Jewish person's feelings were hurt.

The other three were also started by pro-Israel posters.

I don't actually seek any threads, it just depends what pops up in my feed that looks interesting to me.

 

[alang1216]

So, which is it? You admit that AI is biased, and then you immediately claim you use it for factual information.

Do you have a factual source that is NOT biased?

Now you are just talking in circles, making no sense. AI is OK for an overview, but when you see it all tilted one way, you know that you need to look deeper for the information that AI is skipping. AI relies heavily on Wikipedia, which over the last few years has drastically changed. It used to be most anyone could edit any page. Now certain pages, mostly on controversial subjects, are now locked down and only 'certain' editors can touch them.

Certainly Wikipedia is a source for AI, like every other data set on the web. I really doubt AI relies 'heavily' on it. Got a source for that? Unbiased of course.

Your AI conveniently leaves out the fact that Israel completely turned GAZA over to the Palestinians to do with as they please in 2005, twenty years ago. In the process of doing just that, they elected Hamas who then decided to use the strip as a base for continuance of war against all of the Nation of Israel instead of peace. Then as Israel puts up more and more barriers to Gazans as a result of THEIR aggression, they cry to the international media. And wiki stays completely silent on that side of the issue.

While you stay completely silent on the other side of the issue. What would a Gaza Palestinian or Hamas say about Israeli aggressions, provocations, etc.

 

[Shusha]

While you stay completely silent on the other side of the issue. What would a Gaza Palestinian or Hamas say about Israeli aggressions, provocations, etc.

"Provocations" like? What? Jews visiting their own most holy site? The nerve!

 

[Lisa558]

Do you have a factual source that is NOT biased?


Certainly Wikipedia is a source for AI, like every other data set on the web. I really doubt AI relies 'heavily' on it. Got a source for that? Unbiased of course.


While you stay completely silent on the other side of the issue. What would a Gaza Palestinian or Hamas say about Israeli aggressions, provocations, etc.

The aggressions as provocations are all from the HAMAS Savages. Israel responds to them but does not initiate.

 

[Lisa558]

"Provocations" like? What? Jews visiting their own most holy site? The nerve!

Remember….. this Alang person actually said that HAMAS seems “less dislikable” lately.

How can a terrorist group that breaks into a private Jewish community, on the morn of a major Jewish holiday, to decapitate babies, burn toddlers alive, rape teenage girls and women to death, cut off their breasts and toss them around and laugh as they bleed out, dismember adults limb by lib while still alive be viewed as “less dislikeable”?

The tolerance that leftists have for violent, subhuman degrees of antisemitism and calls of “Death to Jews!! - while moaning and groaning about an Aunt Jemima logo syrup being offensive to blacks - is the result of brainwashing not seen since the run-up to Nazi Germany.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I don't want anyone dead. Where did I say I did?

I just don't think stealing someone else's land is a good thing, and being caught in perpetual war with the people whose land you stole isn't very smart.

The problem is, there really isn't much of a solution. Jews would be the minority in a One State Solution, a Two State solution would just be perpetual war, and Apartheid and Occupation is unsustainable.

Don't come whining to me that you've painted yourself into a corner.

If you had any idea why you hate Jews so much, you would not have to keep returning to the lie about the Jews stealing Arab land when you know there is no record of any land theft by Jews. On the contrary, the Arabs went to war in 1948 to try to steal Jewish owned land.

 

[Jroc]

Okay, challenge accepted.

I am just looking right now at my "Watched Threads" screen.

On the first page, there are 56 threads I have participated in or posted to since the August 9th.

Of those - only 6 are Jewish or Israel related.

One of them is a Holocaust Denial Thread started by Street Juice and contributed to largely by Grau. On that thread, I actually challenge idiots who claim the Holocaust didn't happen. (My dad was with the US troops that liberated Nordhausen, the Holocaust Happened.)

Of the other threads, three of them were started by Lisa, claiming it is the worst thing ever that a Jewish person's feelings were hurt.

The other three were also started by pro-Israel posters.

I don't actually seek any threads, it just depends what pops up in my feed that looks interesting to me.

Your father was a better man than you for sure.... you've got too much time on your hands...count the post not the threads.... We know you realize the Holocaust happened but you can justify in your own warped little mind.

 

[Lisa558]

If you had any idea why you hate Jews so much, you would not have to keep returning to the lie about the Jews stealing Arab land when you know there is no record of any land theft by Jews. On the contrary, the Arabs went to war in 1948 to try to steal Jewish owned land.

Look at all the Jewish land the Arabs stole when they drove them out:

 

[JoeB131]

If you had any idea why you hate Jews so much, you would not have to keep returning to the lie about the Jews stealing Arab land when you know there is no record of any land theft by Jews. On the contrary, the Arabs went to war in 1948 to try to steal Jewish owned land.

Not sure why you think that just claiming the Zionists didn't steal their land convinces anyone. Doesn't convince me. Doesn't convince them. Doesn't really convince the European Community.

Your father was a better man than you for sure.... you've got too much time on your hands...count the post not the threads.... We know you realize the Holocaust happened but you can justify in your own warped little mind.

Um, okay, I'm not sure I want to delve any further into your steroid riddled brain, but let's look at this.

Yes, I am a prolific poster, and I post about a great number of subjects. I'd say maybe 10% of what I post is about Israel/Palestine, and that's being generous. But mostly I respond to what other people post, I don't start a lot of threads of my own.

This is a hobby. I work full time, I have a side business, and I help my wife run her business. And I maybe spend 2 hours a day posting on message boards. It's relaxing.

Um, no, the Arabs went to war to protect their land from foreign invaders. if you want to know one of the underlying causes of "anti-Semitism":, (as much as I hate that term, as it is inaccurate*) is your sense of entitlement. Just moving to Palestine and sharing the land wasn't good enough, you had to declare a Jewish State, because you are "entitled".

(* I dislike the term "anti-Semite", because the Arabs are more legitimately a Semitic People than the Ashkenazim are.)

 

[JoeB131]

Look at all the Jewish land the Arabs stole when they drove them out:

Were they driven out or did they leave voluntarily?

You can make a case that they WERE driven out of Egypt, after they were involved in the Lavon Affair, that attempted to overthrow Nasser, and the Suez War, where they conspired with the French and British to seize the Suez Canal (and came damned close to triggering World War III. Thankfully, Ike had the good sense to put the kabosh on that.)

Looking at the rest of your list, let's look at Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia, the biggest numbers on your list.

History of the Jews in Algeria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

More than 90% of Algerian Jews (110,000 out of about 130,000) opted for France, they left Algeria en masse, not because they were persecuted there as Jews but because they had so deeply internalized their "Frenchness" that they considered their destiny linked to that of the French,<...

After the Evian agreements of 19 March 1962, the vast majority of the remaining Jews in Algeria were among the 800,000 French people who crossed the Mediterranean at in the space of a few months. Regarded as repatriates in the same way as the 'Pieds Noirs', they gradually integrated into the French Jewish community, which they helped to reshape, like their co-religionists who had previously arrived from Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco. The number of those who settled in Israel is estimated at around 10,000.

So bottom lining it, the Jews that left Algeria and Morocco didn't leave because they were Jewish, they left because they were seen as part of the FRENCH COLONIZATION of North Africa.

Okay, let's debunk the rest of Lisa's list, shall we. Taking out the North African countries (658,000 people) who were primarily expelled for things they legitimately did or were, the next biggest chunk on the list is Iraq.

Actually, this is so interesting that I think I'm going to give it its own post.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Not sure why you think that just claiming the Zionists didn't steal their land convinces anyone. Doesn't convince me. Doesn't convince them. Doesn't really convince the European Community.



Um, okay, I'm not sure I want to delve any further into your steroid riddled brain, but let's look at this.

Yes, I am a prolific poster, and I post about a great number of subjects. I'd say maybe 10% of what I post is about Israel/Palestine, and that's being generous. But mostly I respond to what other people post, I don't start a lot of threads of my own.

This is a hobby. I work full time, I have a side business, and I help my wife run her business. And I maybe spend 2 hours a day posting on message boards. It's relaxing.

Um, no, the Arabs went to war to protect their land from foreign invaders. if you want to know one of the underlying causes of "anti-Semitism":, (as much as I hate that term, as it is inaccurate*) is your sense of entitlement. Just moving to Palestine and sharing the land wasn't good enough, you had to declare a Jewish State, because you are "entitled".

(* I dislike the term "anti-Semite", because the Arabs are more legitimately a Semitic People than the Ashkenazim are.)

As you already know, there are no records to support your claim that the Jews stole Arab lands and yet you continue to claim they have, which suggests you have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

The British records show that from 1920 to 1948, there was no land theft by the Jews, and the British records show that the Jews purchased their lands from wealthy Arabs families, so there is absolutely no rational basis for your claim that the Jews stole Arab land or that their attacks on the Jews was to protect their lands from Jewish immigrants.

 

[Lisa558]

Were they driven out or did they leave voluntarily?

You can make a case that they WERE driven out of Egypt, after they were involved in the Lavon Affair, that attempted to overthrow Nasser, and the Suez War, where they conspired with the French and British to seize the Suez Canal (and came damned close to triggering World War III. Thankfully, Ike had the good sense to put the kabosh on that.)

Looking at the rest of your list, let's look at Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia, the biggest numbers on your list.

History of the Jews in Algeria - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

More than 90% of Algerian Jews (110,000 out of about 130,000) opted for France, they left Algeria en masse, not because they were persecuted there as Jews but because they had so deeply internalized their "Frenchness" that they considered their destiny linked to that of the French,<...

After the Evian agreements of 19 March 1962, the vast majority of the remaining Jews in Algeria were among the 800,000 French people who crossed the Mediterranean at in the space of a few months. Regarded as repatriates in the same way as the 'Pieds Noirs', they gradually integrated into the French Jewish community, which they helped to reshape, like their co-religionists who had previously arrived from Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco. The number of those who settled in Israel is estimated at around 10,000.

So bottom lining it, the Jews that left Algeria and Morocco didn't leave because they were Jewish, they left because they were seen as part of the FRENCH COLONIZATION of North Africa.

Okay, let's debunk the rest of Lisa's list, shall we. Taking out the North African countries (658,000 people) who were primarily expelled for things they legitimately did or were, the next biggest chunk on the list is Iraq.

Actually, this is so interesting that I think I'm going to give it its own post.

The treatment of Jews was so horrific that they were, at best, driven out. In other cases, they were outright expelled - and their property stolen.

Aabs did not have their land stolen. JEWS had their land stolen.

And in the case of Egypt, which you refer to, did you mention that not only were they expelled on 24 hours notice, but that they were FORCED to sign contracts deeding over all their property to the Muslims?

 

[Lisa558]

As you already know, there are no records to support your claim that the Jews stole Arab lands and yet you continue to claim they have, which suggests you have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

The British records show that from 1920 to 1948, there was no land theft by the Jews, and the British records show that the Jews purchased their lands from wealthy Arabs families, so there is absolutely no rational basis for your claim that the Jews stole Arab land or that their attacks on the Jews was to protect their lands from Jewish immigrants.

You can’t expect to get Joe the Antisemite to see reality. His brain is too destroyed by Jew-hatred.

 

[JoeB131]

So once again, attacking Lisa's list on why Jews were "expelled" (not really) From the Islamic world. We have already established that they were expelled from Egypt for attempts to overthrow Nasser, and from Algeria/Morocco/Tunisia, because they saw themselves as French, not Jews or Arabs.

So why did they leave Iraq? I mean, you'd think with a winner like Saddam in charge, that would explain it. But, no, most of them left well before the Ba'athist regime took power.

History of the Jews in Iraq - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Short version, Iraqi public opinion turned against it's Jewish population after the 1948 War. But Iraq actually tried to PREVENT the emigration of its Jews at first. (They also revoked most of their economic privileges).

Then there were the 1950-51 bombings of Jewish businesses in Iraq, which alledged to have been orchestrated by Israeli agents to encourage Jews to emigrate to Israel.

1950–1951 Baghdad bombings - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[toomuchtime_]

The treatment of Jews was so horrific that they were, at best, driven out. In other cases, they were outright expelled - and their property stolen.

Aabs did not have their land stol

You can’t expect to get Joe the Antisemite to see reality. His brain is too destroyed by Jew-hatred.

I am just countering his lies for the sake of other people who may be reading these posts. I don't expect him to stop lying.

 

[JoeB131]

The treatment of Jews was so horrific that they were, at best, driven out. In other cases, they were outright expelled - and their property stolen.

Aabs did not have their land stolen. JEWS had their land stolen.

And in the case of Egypt, which you refer to, did you mention that not only were they expelled on 24 hours notice, but that they were FORCED to sign contracts deeding over all their property to the Muslims?

Wow, that sounds terrible, Lisa. But given you enthusiastically support what Trump is doing to immigrants in this country, right now, I don't think you have a lot of sympathy here.

( I notice that she skipped right over the discussion about why FRENCH Jews left Algeria after Colonialism ended.)

As you already know, there are no records to support your claim that the Jews stole Arab lands and yet you continue to claim they have, which suggests you have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

Yawn, isn't about me, buddy. It's about how the Palestinians feel about it. They feel they were robbed... because they were robbed.

If the British hadn't carved up the Levant as colonies, do you think these Jews would have been able to "buy" this land fair and square? of course not.