Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[toomuchtime_]

Israel had the sympathy of most of the world after Oct. 7th but they managed to squander it with their over reaction against Palestinian civilians. They have only themselves to blame.

As Abba Eban once said, it is better to be disliked than pitied.

 

[rosends]

It is their literal JOB to be aware of the facts of the stories they report.

There is some talk going around about legal action for libel against these media outlets.

True. I was especially amused by the "we didn't know" excuse. Seems like a lot of people knew for them not to know. But if you don't look, I guess you are guaranteed not to find out.

 

[alang1216]

As Abba Eban once said, it is better to be disliked than pitied.

Congrats, Hamas was disliked and now they are pitied (or at least less disliked).

 

[toomuchtime_]

Congrats, Hamas was disliked and now they are pitied (or at least less disliked).

Apparently, this is hard for you to understand but the important thing is that Hamas be destroyed, not what you think about them. I don't think you understand why people are pitied.

 

[Lisa558]

Apparently, this is hard for you to understand but the important thing is that Hamas be destroyed, not what you think about them. I don't think you understand why people are pitied.

I’m still gobsmacked by Alang’s comment that HAMAS is less disliked than they were.

Even the word “disliked” is a gross understatement. These are savage, soulless ghouls who broke into a Jewish kibbutz on the morning of a Jewish holiday and started decapitating babies, burning toddlers alive, shooting guns up girls’ vaginas (after raping them), and dismembering the adults while they were still alive.

Only someone driven by antisemitism could find any sympathy for Jew-massacring monsters like that.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I’m still gobsmacked by Alang’s comment that HAMAS is less disliked than they were.

Even the word “disliked” is a gross understatement. These are savage, soulless ghouls who broke into a Jewish kibbutz on the morning of a Jewish holiday and started decapitating babies, burning toddlers alive, shooting guns up girls’ vaginas (after raping them), and dismembering the adults while they were still alive.

Only someone driven by antisemitism could find any sympathy for Jew-massacring monsters like that.

Apparently he just likes watching people suffer. Watching the Oct 7 massacre sent his heart all aflutter, and he feels himself warming up towards Hamas now that their future is becoming so dire.

This raises questions: does he also torture small animals and wet his bed? If so, he is likely a sociopath.

Is his name Dexter?

 

[alang1216]

Apparently, this is hard for you to understand but the important thing is that Hamas be destroyed, not what you think about them. I don't think you understand why people are pitied.

Several people have told me that, essentially the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas are the same thing. What is hard for me to understand is how Hamas can be destroyed without destroying the Palestinian people.

 

[JoeB131]

Far from pointing out what Israel is doing, you make up lies about what Israel is doing so you can vilify Jews. For example, when the Palestinians are criticized for violence against Jews or refusing to live in peace with Jews, you often say, what would you feel if foreigners came and took your home away when you know there is no record of Jews stealing any homes or land from the Arabs. Knowing that, your real question is, what would you do if Jews moved into your neighborhood, and with your supporting Palestinians violence your response is, kill the Jews.

"We cheated them out of their land fair and square!!!"

They were welcomed as guests, they became conquerors....

You make up or embrace these lies because you have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

Oh, I know plenty of reasons I don't like them. None of them is good enough to kill anyone over.

Why would you imagine all those pictures of allegedly starving children in Gaza are true when you know for a fact that at least some of them are bogues? The real question is, are any of them true, and the answer is, there is no way to know.

I don't know any of them are fake.

And there is most certainly a way to find out. Have an immediate cease fire, have the IDF withdraw back across the border, and then have the Red Cross and UNICEF assess how bad the damage is.

You know for a fact that at least some of these photos are suffering from debilitating diseases and not of starving children and you have no way of knowing if all of them are, yet you embrace that lie, again demonstrating you have no idea why you hate Jews so much.

Why do all of them have to be fake. If some of them are real, that's bad enough.

As far as a "debilitating disease", the only reason why these diseases are that bad is because the Zionists have destroyed the ability of these kids to get the chronic care they obviously need.

 

[JoeB131]

The leftist rags are so eager to cast Israel in a bad light that they are overly eager to jump on and spread any anti-Israel “news” they get without taking time to verify its veracity.

There needs to be consequences for that.

Waaaah, someone is criticizing Jews, we can't have that..

 

[JoeB131]

I’m still gobsmacked by Alang’s comment that HAMAS is less disliked than they were.

Even the word “disliked” is a gross understatement. These are savage, soulless ghouls who broke into a Jewish kibbutz on the morning of a Jewish holiday and started decapitating babies, burning toddlers alive, shooting guns up girls’ vaginas (after raping them), and dismembering the adults while they were still alive.

Only someone driven by antisemitism could find any sympathy for Jew-massacring monsters like that.

The vast majority of Palestinians didn't do that, but you are slaughtering them anyway.

There's only so far you can milk an attrocity before people are over it.

Take 9/11. The US had the world's sympathy when it happened.

When that evolved into the "Forever War" in Iraq and Afghanistan, eventually, everyone got a little tired of it.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Several people have told me that, essentially the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas are the same thing. What is hard for me to understand is how Hamas can be destroyed without destroying the Palestinian people.

It's clear from this post and others there is very little about this you do understand.

 

[Shusha]

As far as a "debilitating disease", the only reason why these diseases are that bad is because the Zionists have destroyed the ability of these kids to get the chronic care they obviously need.

Not so.

SOURCE

Nutritional status is correlated with regional economic level, but there is still a malnutrition rate of nearly 30 % in developed countries.

This source deals with cerebral palsy specifically, but applies to other genetic and chronic illnesses generally. The reason why these diseases are that bad is because they are that bad. And the difference between "that bad" and "slightly less bad" in developed countries is not because ... Jews.

 

[Shusha]

Several people have told me that, essentially the Gaza Palestinians and Hamas are the same thing. What is hard for me to understand is how Hamas can be destroyed without destroying the Palestinian people.

Sure. But that is more than a little bit reductive. It's not like you can sort individuals in Gaza into two black-and-white binary groups, one that holds an ideology of "kill all the Jews" and one that holds an ideology of "let's sit down and kumbaya with all the Jews". It's a fair bit more complicated than that.

The framing that never seems to come into play with these discussions is the responsibility of the Palestinian people. What should the Palestinian people be doing to further their aspirations?

 

[toomuchtime_]

"We cheated them out of their land fair and square!!!"

They were welcomed as guests, they became conquerors....


Oh, I know plenty of reasons I don't like them. None of them is good enough to kill anyone over.



I don't know any of them are fake.

And there is most certainly a way to find out. Have an immediate cease fire, have the IDF withdraw back across the border, and then have the Red Cross and UNICEF assess how bad the damage is.



Why do all of them have to be fake. If some of them are real, that's bad enough.

As far as a "debilitating disease", the only reason why these diseases are that bad is because the Zionists have destroyed the ability of these kids to get the chronic care they obviously need.

As you well know, there is no record of Arabs being cheated out of their land, and there certainly no record of Arabs welccoming the Jews to Palestine, but the Ottoman Turks had been inviting European Jews to move to the Ottoman Empire - of which Palestine was a part - since the 16th century. If you had any idea why you hate Jews so much, you wouldn't have to tell these lies.

We don't know for sure that all the photos are fake, but it seems likely they are because if starvation were so widespread, there would be no need for anyone to present fake photos; so each fake photo strengthens the argument against any of them being true and of the claim starvation is widespread in Gaza.

You claim you know why you hate Jews so much, but if that were true, you wouldn't have to lie so muck.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Problems In Middle East Blamed On The 0.3% Of It That Isn’t An Islamic Dictatorship.

 

[Lisa558]

Problems In Middle East Blamed On The 0.3% Of It That Isn’t An Islamic Dictatorship.

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Here’s a better perspective:

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Here’s a better perspective:
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That too.

 

[JoeB131]

Not so.

SOURCE

Nutritional status is correlated with regional economic level, but there is still a malnutrition rate of nearly 30 % in developed countries.

This source deals with cerebral palsy specifically, but applies to other genetic and chronic illnesses generally. The reason why these diseases are that bad is because they are that bad. And the difference between "that bad" and "slightly less bad" in developed countries is not because ... Jews.

except Gaza is only as poor as it is because the Israelis exploit it. But let's leave that part out.

I've never seen anyone who is so oblivious to how bad they screw people over.

Here’s a better perspective:

Why are you guys so keen to live in the middle of people who hate you?

Let's set aside whether they have a valid reason to dislike you. The point is, they hate you to the point where they are willing to strap bombs onto themselves to blow you up.

Now, me, if I saw my neighbors strapping bombs onto their kids and pointing at my house, I'd move. Now, seriously, I'd call the nice realtor lady who sold me this place and find a new place.

Now, the fair thing would be for all these Jews to move back to Europe where they came from, but that ain't gonna happen.

So here's a simple solution. Let's set up the New Jewish State in the USA. Let them take over Florida or New York as the New Jewish state.

It would probably be cheaper for the US than having to play Hall Monitor in the Middle East like we've been doing for the last 50 years.

 

[JoeB131]

Problems In Middle East Blamed On The 0.3% Of It That Isn’t An Islamic Dictatorship.

Actually, you guys should be grateful for the dictatorships.

The one time they let Egypt vote on who they wanted to lead them, they overwhelmingly voted for the most radical Islamist they could find. One who was determined to scrap the Camp David Accords.

Conversely, the dictator who did sign those accords was shot by his own people.

Your problem is you are on their land. Period. Full stop. That's why they want to kill you! (And all the other shit you did to steal their land).

 

[ShahdagMountains]

Actually, you guys should be grateful for the dictatorships.

The one time they let Egypt vote on who they wanted to lead them, they overwhelmingly voted for the most radical Islamist they could find. One who was determined to scrap the Camp David Accords.

Conversely, the dictator who did sign those accords was shot by his own people.

Your problem is you are on their land. Period. Full stop. That's why they want to kill you! (And all the other shit you did to steal their land).

The Arabs are the colonists. Mohammed saw to that during his war of forced conversions.