Destroying Hamas is a fine goal but not if you have to depopulate Gaza to do it. I think Israel relies too heavily on the stick and too little on the carrot.
Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’
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Google 'starvation in Gaza' and see who is finding mass starvation. It is not just me.If There was genocide and mass starvation it would be a problem finding exactly that mass starvation
All good questions, I await your findings.
Let's hope she survives and the truth eventually comes out.
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The carrot was what was keeping the peace on October 6. It got slapped away. All that is left is the stick.
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They are good questions BEFORE you post a false and demonizing photo.
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She has several GoFundMe and other fund-raisers. Let's hope she can find a country willing to take her to continue to investigate the cause of her illness.
The truth is in post #476.
Our dwindling number of Genocidal Zionist shills are getting very desperate when they whine about the deaths of just two children when tens of thousands of children have been systematically exterminated by Hitler's little Zionist colony.
Thanks,
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Their hypocrisy is unbelievable. I suspect they really do consider Palestinians subhumans, just as Hitler’s Nazis thought of Jews.
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The Arab Palestinians appear rather averse to carrots. Israel keeps offering them, they keep refusing.
Maybe they just need it to be spelled out a bit more clearly. Israel asserts her claim to sovereignty over the whole of the Gaza strip. For every year with no acts of violence, the people of Gaza earn 1 square km. In 365 years, it will be all theirs.
Doesn't existed you would have posted it
The place should be evacuated so Hamas can be this destroyed the it can be rebuilt not another terrorist state ...the trump.plan
Invisibleflash
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Ghazi Hamad, a senior member of the Hamas politburo, told Al Jazeera over the weekend that the wave of Western nations moving to recognize a Palestinian state is the result of “the fruits” of Hamas’ October 7, 2023, massacre.
In a clip of his interview with the outlet yesterday, Hamad asked the interviewer: “Why are all the countries recognizing a Palestinian state today? Before October 7, did any country dare recognize a Palestinian state?”
He continues: “The fruits of October 7 are what caused the entire world to open its eyes to the Palestinian issue — and they are moving toward it with force. That is, that the Palestinian people are a people who deserve a country.”
Dozens of countries had recognized Palestinian statehood prior to the October 7 attack, though in recent weeks, many more have taken steps in that direction, including a number of major Israeli allies, citing the need to bring an end to the war in Gaza.
Responding to Hamad’s remarks, Foreign Minister Gideon Sa’ar — who has argued that unilateral recognition at this time “rewards terror” — called out France, the United Kingdom, and Canada for announcing plans to recognize a Palestinian state in September, asking rhetorically in a post on X: “If this [is] who applauds you — what does it say about you?”
Britain, France, Canada and Hamas apparently all think alike.
After the Jews kill the last Palestinian...then they will be recognized.
The same genocidal Zionist shills that are entirely incapable of telling the truth about Hitler's little Zionist colony are equally dishonest about the treatment of of Jews in National Socialist Germany in the 1930s - 1940s.
If Hitler and Germany's National Socialist really hated all Jews, it's unlikely that they would have allowed Jews to hold high ranking membership in the NS Party or promoted 25 Jews to the rank of General:
- “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent
EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED
- "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"
"ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…
Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis
ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…
EXCERPT ""In many cases, Hitler decided personally what should be done with soldiers of Jewish descent - and he made different decisions from case to case."
The most senior general of Jewish origin was Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who rose to be general inspector of the Luftwaffe and was convicted of war crimes after 1945." CONTINUED
While the fraudulent, multi $ Billion dollar Holocaust Industry (1), (2) and its complicit pro Israel MSM continues to lie and wildly inflate Holocaust horror stories, they have been entirely unable to find any evidence that Hitler ordered the destruction of Europe's Jews:
“To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”
- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
Overall, there were about 150,000 Jews who served in Hitler's military with the full knowledge and approval of Hitler and the German High Command. (3)
Additionally, Hitler even honored Jewish WW 1 Veterans some of whom were already in Palestine:
- "When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers"
When Hitler honored Jewish soldiers
The Nazi Regime Conferred Honors on Many of the 100,000 Jews Who Fought in the German Army in the Great War, Even on Some Who Had Already Escaped to Palestine.
EXCERPT "The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine." CONTINUED
Even though the British cracked Germany's Enigma code, the reason that you hear or read nothing about the findings is because there is absolutely no mention of a desire to kill off Europe's Jews:
“THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
Full text of "Breaking The Spell - Holocaust Handbook #31 - Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom"
EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.
Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.
The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
Next, Hitler even became "pen pals" with a young Jewish girl who shared the same birthday. He continued exchanging letters with her even though he knew she was Jewish:
- "‘The Führer’s child’: How Hitler came to embrace a girl with Jewish roots"
EXCERPT "The little girl was portrayed as Adolf Hitler’s favorite.
They shared the same birthday, April 20. She called him Uncle Hitler and was known as “the Führer’s child.” At a time when the Nazi leader was being presented to the world as a kindly figure, his personal photographer frequently snapped pictures of the two them holding hands, exchanging kisses on the cheek or just smiling at each other.
Hitler refused to cut off contact with the girl even after he was told she had a Jewish grandmother." CONTINUED
You are already clearly aware of the degree to which Zionists lie about their genocidal agenda in Palestine so you should clearly be aware that Zionists and the multi $ Billion dollar Holocaust Industry lie just as much about their Holocaust cash cow.
After all, if: "It's not about the money." .... why, then is no amount of money enough?
Thanks,
(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U
EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED
(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million | The Jerusalem Post
For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.
www.jpost.com
EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.
Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
JoeB131
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Did you miss J'Rocs and Lisa's posts. One only imagines them screaming at the computer screen as they type.
JoeB131
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You see, this is what screaming looks like.
Well, the question is who do you believe? The Zionists who always lie, or independent agencies that are pretty good at calculating war deaths. Nobody questioned their estimates in the Balkans or Ukraine or Myanmar.
Except Germany didn't start WWI, Serbia did. World War II happened because the West enabled Hitler for years. (And Japan, too, for that matter.)
If the government is spying on it's own people, they should keep an eye on AIPAC, that is bribing our officials.
I mean, Jonathan Pollard, need I say more.
Well, the question is who do you believe? The Zionists who always lie, or independent agencies that are pretty good at calculating war deaths. Nobody questioned their estimates in the Balkans or Ukraine or Myanmar.
Except Germany didn't start WWI, Serbia did. World War II happened because the West enabled Hitler for years. (And Japan, too, for that matter.)
If the government is spying on it's own people, they should keep an eye on AIPAC, that is bribing our officials.
I mean, Jonathan Pollard, need I say more.
JoeB131
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The problem is, Lisa, you want to equate every political and theological criticism of Jews as "hate".
JoeB131
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Or maybe they are a bit embarrassed by Israel.
I know as a German American, I am embarrassed by what Germany did between 1933 and 1945. So was my Dad (who was in the US Army despite encountering anti-German bigotry for much of his young life) and my Grandparents.
Could it be... wait for it... that Jews living in NYC look at what is going on in Gaza and say, "Oy vey, that's horrible!!!"
JoeB131
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How do you know that's her mother? That could be a nurse in a makeshift clinic (because the Zionists have bombed all the hospitals).
Actually, the picture was posted on the UN website.
In Gaza, mounting evidence of famine and widespread starvation
“The worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in Gaza,” UN-backed food security experts said on Tuesday, in a call to action amid unrelenting conflict, mass displacement and the near-total collapse of essential services in the war-battered enclave.
It's the Jews!!!!!!The same genocidal Zionist shills that are entirely incapable of telling the truth about Hitler's little Zionist colony are equally dishonest about the treatment of of Jews in National Socialist Germany in the 1930s - 1940s.
If Hitler and Germany's National Socialist really hated all Jews, it's unlikely that they would have allowed Jews to hold high ranking membership in the NS Party or promoted 25 Jews to the rank of General:
- “List of Nazis of non-Germanic descent”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nazis_of_non-Germanic_descent
EXCERPT “Notably, there were several high-ranking Nazis of full and partial Jewish descent. “ CONTINUED
- "Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis"
"ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…
Historian claims Hitler personally approved officers of Jewish descent to fight for Nazis
ADOLF HITLER personally allowed at least 77 army officers of Jewish descent, including 25 generals, to fight for the Nazi cause…www.irishtimes.com
EXCERPT ""In many cases, Hitler decided personally what should be done with soldiers of Jewish descent - and he made different decisions from case to case."
The most senior general of Jewish origin was Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who rose to be general inspector of the Luftwaffe and was convicted of war crimes after 1945." CONTINUED
While the fraudulent, multi $ Billion dollar Holocaust Industry (1), (2) and its complicit pro Israel MSM continues to lie and wildly inflate Holocaust horror stories, they have been entirely unable to find any evidence that Hitler ordered the destruction of Europe's Jews:
“To the present day a written order by Hitler regarding the destruction of the European Jewish community has not been found, and, in all probability, this order was never given.”
- Walter Laqueur, Was niemand wissen wollte: Die Unterdruckung der Nachrichten uber Hitlers Endlösung (What Nobody Wanted to Know: The Suppression of News About Hitler’s “Final Solution”), (Berlin-Vienna, 1981), p.190
Overall, there were about 150,000 Jews who served in Hitler's military with the full knowledge and approval of Hitler and the German High Command. (3)
Additionally, Hitler even honored Jewish WW 1 Veterans some of whom were already in Palestine:
- "When Hitler Honored Jewish Soldiers"
When Hitler honored Jewish soldiers
The Nazi Regime Conferred Honors on Many of the 100,000 Jews Who Fought in the German Army in the Great War, Even on Some Who Had Already Escaped to Palestine.www.haaretz.com
EXCERPT "The Nazi regime conferred honors on many of the 100,000 Jews who fought in the German army in the Great War, even on some who had already escaped to Palestine." CONTINUED
Even though the British cracked Germany's Enigma code, the reason that you hear or read nothing about the findings is because there is absolutely no mention of a desire to kill off Europe's Jews:
“THE HOLOCAUST NARRATIVE” by Nicholas Kollerstrom
Full text of "Breaking The Spell - Holocaust Handbook #31 - Dr Nicholas Kollerstrom"
EXCERPT “In 1941, British Intelligence analysts cracked the German “Enigma” code. This undermined the German war effort—but also threw new light on day-by-day events in the Nazi concentration camp system. Between January 1942 and January 1943, encrypted radio communications between those camps and the Berlin headquarters were intercepted and decrypted.
Oddly enough, historians have largely ignored the information furnished in these intercepts relating to “arrivals,” “departures,” recorded deaths and other events at these camps.The only reasonable explanation is that the intercepted data contra-dicts, even refutes, the orthodox “Holocaust” narrative.
The information does not expose a program of mass murder and racial genocide. Quite the opposite: it reveals that the Germans were determined, desperate even, to reduce the death rate in their work camps, which was caused by catastrophic typhus epidemics.”CONTINUED
Next, Hitler even became "pen pals" with a young Jewish girl who shared the same birthday. He continued exchanging letters with her even though he knew she was Jewish:
- "‘The Führer’s child’: How Hitler came to embrace a girl with Jewish roots"
EXCERPT "The little girl was portrayed as Adolf Hitler’s favorite.
They shared the same birthday, April 20. She called him Uncle Hitler and was known as “the Führer’s child.” At a time when the Nazi leader was being presented to the world as a kindly figure, his personal photographer frequently snapped pictures of the two them holding hands, exchanging kisses on the cheek or just smiling at each other.
Hitler refused to cut off contact with the girl even after he was told she had a Jewish grandmother." CONTINUED
You are already clearly aware of the degree to which Zionists lie about their genocidal agenda in Palestine so you should clearly be aware that Zionists and the multi $ Billion dollar Holocaust Industry lie just as much about their Holocaust cash cow.
After all, if: "It's not about the money." .... why, then is no amount of money enough?
Thanks,
(1). "17 CHARGED IN $42 MILLION HOLOCAUST FRAUD CASE"
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/40093058/...ed-million-holocaust-fraud-case/#.XU62pSMwi_U
EXCERPT "Federal prosecutors said Tuesday they have broken up a long-running scam in which people falsely claimed to be victims of the Nazi persecution so they could get money out of a fund that pays Holocaust reparations."CONTINUED
(2). "HOLOCAUST CLAIMS CONFERENCE FRAUD LIKELY ‘MUCH HIGHER’ THAN $57 MILLION"
Holocaust Claims Conference fraud likely ‘much higher’ than $57 million | The Jerusalem Post
For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.
EXCERPT "For over a decade, a criminal ring within the organization embezzled tens of millions of dollars through false restitution claims.
Writing to the Claims Conference’s board last week, recently terminated ombudsman Shmuel Hollander asserted that, while reports had said organizational insiders had siphoned off $57 million in German taxpayer funds meant for survivors, “the final sum is in all probability much higher.” CONTINUED
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