Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[Jroc]

You see, this is what screaming looks like.



Well, the question is who do you believe? The Zionists who always lie, or independent agencies that are pretty good at calculating war deaths. Nobody questioned their estimates in the Balkans or Ukraine or Myanmar.



Except Germany didn't start WWI, Serbia did. World War II happened because the West enabled Hitler for years. (And Japan, too, for that matter.)



If the government is spying on it's own people, they should keep an eye on AIPAC, that is bribing our officials.

I mean, Jonathan Pollard, need I say more.

If you were t so serious you could be a comedian ..... So you didn't answer the question Do you have a job where you have any information that you can feed to your 5 communist Chinese benefactors...you didn't answer that question ...do you work for a company you can steal their trade secrets or the government you can feed him some intelligence information?

 

[Jroc]

How do you know that's her mother? That could be a nurse in a makeshift clinic (because the Zionists have bombed all the hospitals).



Actually, the picture was posted on the UN website.

In Gaza, mounting evidence of famine and widespread starvation

“The worst-case scenario of famine is currently playing out in Gaza,” UN-backed food security experts said on Tuesday, in a call to action amid unrelenting conflict, mass displacement and the near-total collapse of essential services in the war-battered enclave.

news.un.org

Still waiting for evidence of mass starvation feel free to post it...not AI either

 

[Shusha]

Actually, the picture was posted on the UN website.

I am well aware. It remains demonstrably false.

What does that tell you about the UN?

 

[Lisa558]

Why are you even bothering with Joe? He’s getting his rocks off by throwing his antisemitism in our faces.

To me, he’s a person non grata.

 

[Lisa558]

I am well aware. It remains demonstrably false.

What does that tell you about the UN?

I have him on ignore, but let me guess…..he quoted some anti-Israel propaganda from the anti-Israel U.N., and thinks it’s a reliable source.

 

[Shusha]

I have him on ignore, but let me guess…..he quoted some anti-Israel propaganda from the anti-Israel U.N., and thinks it’s a reliable source.

He posted a UN newsletter which uses the same photo as the one alang1216 posted. Which only demonstrates how absolutely corrupt the UN is.

 

[Natural Citizen]

The problem is, Lisa, you want to equate every political and theological criticism of Jews as "hate".

I've never in all of my years of the world wide web seen anyone who was so full of their own self-importance that any and all criticism, or even just someone disagreeing about something was viewed as ''hate.''

What makes the notion even more repugnant is the constant appeal to authority to silence or ban anyone whose views aren't inline with that sense of self-importance or to change the rulebook in order to accomodate that same sense of self-importance.

Of course, there's also the fact that it's an observably strategic, synergetic operation as well.

The poster (and other purveyors of the same routine) do not constantly throw up arbitrary victim status cards for nothing, rest assured.

As an America-first American, I, for one, find the hubris as well as the intent behind the operation/practice to be very off-putting.

But....people get tired of that brand of skullduggery and this is primarily why it most often ends the same way for those types. Most of the time...



So there's that...

 

[Natural Citizen]

What I think the world is getting more tired of is the arrogance.

Hubris...Greek for chutzpah...is something that the poster (as well as some others of similar intent) routinely advertise and flaunt while waving their arbitrary victim status cards around. Those specific arbitrary victim status cards are, in effect, invoked as a political and social currency.

But...in the end, it is the means of self-destruction. Always. And it's precisely because of the hubris. It stimulates a very, very naive sense of confidence and entitlement.

 

[Jroc]

I am well aware. It remains demonstrably false.

What does that tell you about the UN?

UN aid agency members supplied Hamas with RPGs, took Israeli woman hostage during Oct. 7 attacks, damning intel finds

Staffers at a United Nations aid agency serving Palestinians in Gaza allegedly killed Israelis, kidnapped one woman and took her hostage and even armed Hamas terrorists as they attacked the Jewish …

nypost.com

 

[JoeB131]

If you were t so serious you could be a comedian ..... So you didn't answer the question Do you have a job where you have any information that you can feed to your 5 communist Chinese benefactors...you didn't answer that question ...do you work for a company you can steal their trade secrets or the government you can feed him some intelligence information?

Why would the Chinese need to do that?

They have far more smart people than we have. We have a population that is at least 49.7% blithering idiots.

Maybe we should be stealing stuff from the Chinese.

 

[JoeB131]

Still waiting for evidence of mass starvation feel free to post it...not AI either

We just posted it for you... but you want to ignore it to feel better about yourself. Honestly, you are on the same level as a Holocaust denier.

I actually did image search "Staving Palestinian Children". I don't recommend it; it's truly soul-crushing.

These images will be as searing for future generations as images of the camps were when I was growing up.

Is this the legacy you really want?

I am well aware. It remains demonstrably false.

What does that tell you about the UN?

How is it false? Was the picture faked or is it of a real person.

Why are you even bothering with Joe? He’s getting his rocks off by throwing his antisemitism in our faces.

To me, he’s a person non grata.

I have him on ignore, but let me guess…..he quoted some anti-Israel propaganda from the anti-Israel U.N., and thinks it’s a reliable source.

I've lost track, Lisa, is this the 447th or 448th time you've "Put me on ignore"?

He posted a UN newsletter which uses the same photo as the one @alang1216 posted. Which only demonstrates how absolutely corrupt the UN is.

Right... so where's the proof it's a fake image?

 

[toomuchtime_]

Destroying Hamas is a fine goal but not if you have to depopulate Gaza to do it. I think Israel relies too heavily on the stick and too little on the carrot.

Of course you do. That's why you are here, to vilify Israel. This is the war the Palestinians wanted and the one they refuse to end. Whatever they may be suffering now is the result of prioritizing their commitment to destroy Israel about the welfare on their own children.

To say Israel relies to heavily on the stick and too little on the carrot means nothing if you can't be specific.

 

[JoeB131]

Of course you do. That's why you are here, to vilify Israel. This is the war the Palestinians wanted and the one they refuse to end. Whatever they may be suffering now is the result of prioritizing their commitment to destroy Israel about the welfare on their own children.

To say Israel relies to heavily on the stick and too little on the carrot means nothing if you can't be specific.

I think you miss the point of the idiom about the carrot of the stick.

The person isn't giving the donkey the choice between the carrot or a stick.

They are putting the carrot at the end of a stick and dangling it in front of the donkey to get it to do what you want.

In short, you are offering someone something but never delivering on it.

So kind of appropriate to the actions of the Israelis, they constantly promise they are for peace, but every year they steal more Palestinian land and drop more bombs.

The reason why Hamas got as strong as it did was because Bibi and other Zionist leaders were willing to enable it as a foil against Fatah and the PA. "Why we can't negotiate on a two-state solution as long as Hamas controls Gaza!!!"

 

[toomuchtime_]

After the Jews kill the last Palestinian...then they will be recognized.

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Recognized as what? The people who were so obsessed with killing Jews that cared nothing for their own children? Remember it is the so called Palestinians who started this war and who refuse to end it, so whatever they and their children may suffer is by their own hand.

 

[JoeB131]

Recognized as what? The people who were so obsessed with killing Jews that cared nothing for their own children? Remember it is the so called Palestinians who started this war and who refuse to end it, so whatever they and their children may suffer is by their own hand.

No, the war started in 1947 when the Zionists seized Arab land

 

[Jroc]

Why would the Chinese need to do that?

They have far more smart people than we have. We have a population that is at least 49.7% blithering idiots.

Maybe we should be stealing stuff from the Chinese.

We just posted it for you... but you want to ignore it to feel better about yourself. Honestly, you are on the same level as a Holocaust denier.

I actually did image search "Staving Palestinian Children". I don't recommend it; it's truly soul-crushing.

These images will be as searing for future generations as images of the camps were when I was growing up.

Is this the legacy you really want?



How is it false? Was the picture faked or is it of a real person.





I've lost track, Lisa, is this the 447th or 448th time you've "Put me on ignore"?



Right... so where's the proof it's a fake image?

There are no real images of mass starvation other than staged pictures no real images of mass starvation only the minds of you Jew haters.. post a link if you'd like you don't really care about Mass starvation only when the Jews are involved you made excuses for Mao starving 40 to 50 million people that didn't seem to bother you much cuz you're a fraud

 

[Jroc]

Why would the Chinese need to do that?

They have far more smart people than we have. We have a population that is at least 49.7% blithering idiots.

Maybe we should be stealing stuff from the Chinese.

Look China boy the Chinese don't develop much of anything on their own, America companies go over there, they have to give them their technology... they steal it , they pay corrupt politicians for it. Thier military hardware is junk ,untested ,and half of the stuff won't work if they actually had to use it......per per capita as a percentage of the population ,there's many more smart people, in Israel than in just one reason why you nut jobs hate Jews. They more scientific advancements in the medical field, treatments for diseases , weaponry irrigation many things unlike the Chinese who let viruses spread throughout the world and killed tens of millions of people p... They might have smart some people in China but they don't develop things there because there's no free thinking there the government runs everything businessman regularly put in prison if they speak out against the government

 

[toomuchtime_]

I think you miss the point of the idiom about the carrot of the stick.

The person isn't giving the donkey the choice between the carrot or a stick.

They are putting the carrot at the end of a stick and dangling it in front of the donkey to get it to do what you want.

In short, you are offering someone something but never delivering on it.

So kind of appropriate to the actions of the Israelis, they constantly promise they are for peace, but every year they steal more Palestinian land and drop more bombs.

The reason why Hamas got as strong as it did was because Bibi and other Zionist leaders were willing to enable it as a foil against Fatah and the PA. "Why we can't negotiate on a two-state solution as long as Hamas controls Gaza!!!"

Were you a better reader, you would realize that is not how the carrot and stick were used in the post I responded to, and if you were a better person, you would not be telling so many lies about this conflict, but if you did not lie so much, you would have nothing at all to post.

All the peace overtures since 1947 have come from Israel and all of them have been refused by the Arabs.

Since 2005, Israel has had no presence in Gaza and all the settlements in Samaria and Judea have taken up less that 8% of the land. The amount of land the settlements take up has not expanded since 1995.

Israel never enabled Hamas, and the PA has not been a viable candidate to rule a Palestinian state since it lost Gaza to Hamas in a internal Palestinian conflict 2007. Hamas defeated the PA in elections and the PA refused to recognize the election results and Hamas responded by taking Gaza from the PA. None of this had anything to do with Israel. Israel didn't enable Hamas, the so called Palestinian people did by voting for them in the last free elections the Palestinians had.

 

[Shusha]

How is it false? Was the picture faked or is it of a real person.

Right... so where's the proof it's a fake image?

Try to follow along.

It is a real photo. It is a real person. Her name is Maryam. She should not be EXPLOITED by Hamas and Hamas supporters. She should instead receive help to alleviate her suffering.

Her family is well-fed and healthy. That includes her mother, her father, her three brothers. None of them are starving. They have access to food. The family has access to food.

Therefore, she is suffering from some sort of medical condition. (Unless you want to go with the horrible alternative that the family is deliberately starving her by denying her food when they have access to it.)

 

[JoeB131]

Wow, the Roid Rage is out in this one.

There are no real images of mass starvation other than staged pictures no real images of mass starvation only the minds of you Jew haters.. post a link if you'd like you don't really care about Mass starvation only when the Jews are involved you made excuses for Mao starving 40 to 50 million people that didn't seem to bother you much cuz you're a fraud

Again, I could talk to one of our resident Holocaust deniers, and they would all claim that all those pictures of starving Concentration camp victims were "faked" by Allied propagandists. (Of course, my dad liberated Nordhausen, he knew the holocaust was a thing that happened.)

So you have put yourself in with some mighty fine company...

Look China boy the Chinese don't develop much of anything on their own, America companies go over there, they have to give them their technology... they steal it , they pay corrupt politicians for it. Thier military hardware is junk ,untested ,and half of the stuff won't work if they actually had to use it......

Um, hey, you don't think our military hardware isn't junk? How about those Humm-vees? They turned out to be rolling coffins for our soldiers in Iraq. Then they replaced them with MRAP, which also turned out to be kind of shit.

per per capita as a percentage of the population ,there's many more smart people in Israel,

And more mass murderers, too. What's your point?

in Israel than in just one reason why you nut jobs hate Jews. They more scientific advancements in the medical field, treatments for diseases , weaponry irrigation many things

Causing all the wars in the middle East America ends up fighting... Truly a benefit.

unlike the Chinese who let viruses spread throughout the world and killed tens of millions of people p... They might have smart some people in China but they don't develop things there because there's no free thinking there the government runs everything businessman regularly put in prison if they speak out against the government

Um, right, this is why the Chinese are passing us up, while the Zionists are on the American dole.