While Christians were driving Jews out of various parts of Europe, the Islamic world welcomed them with open arms. Until they turned around and screwed them.
The Islamic “ golden age” welcomed the Jews, but they were still treated like third class citizens. Their apparel was regulated, their conduct was regulated, they had to be inferior to Muslims in every way, their temples couldn’t attract any attention. They were scapegoated by the Muslim rulers anytime anything went wrong and their wealth was seized by being taken as “loans” at zero interest which were only repaid at the discretion of the Muslim rulers. The Jews never had the power to screw the Muslims, they were always a discriminated against and despised minority. The Muslims used them as bankers because the Koran forbade Muslims charging interest, then raised to mob against when the Jews showed signs or becoming too prosperous.
I want you to understand something. In matters of Israel's self defense, I side with the liberal democracy with an almost secular government, in Israel. Not with the surrounding Muslims who would form a new caliphate to take Israel. And, if I could convert every loony fundie Muslim to Judaism by snapping my fingers, I would do it.
None of this is bigotry against jews or Israel. I think they have gone to far and should stop immediately, and the other civilized countries of the world need to line up and go there and help the Gazans.
I want you to understand something. In matters of Israel's self defense, I side with the liberal democracy with an almost secular government, in Israel. Not with the surrounding Muslims who would form a new caliphate to take Israel. And, if I could convert every loony fundie Muslim to Judaism by snapping my fingers, I would do it.
None of this is bigotry against jews or Israel. I think they have gone to far and should stop immediately, and the other civilized countries of the world need to line up and go there and help the Gazans.
Okay. Fair. I actually genuinely appreciate your perspective. Believe it or not I actually enjoy having real conversations.
If you could manage to gather this international force (and I agree, it won't happen), do you envision them using military force to complete the defense of Israel by dismantling Hamas and destroying the military infrastructure and their capacity to attack Israel in the future? Or do you imagine a strictly humanitarian role? If the international force performed only a humanitarian role, and Hamas was left intact by Israel effectively surrendering, what do you suppose the future will look like?
The Islamic “ golden age” welcomed the Jews, but they were still treated like third class citizens. Their apparel was regulated, their conduct was regulated, they had to be inferior to Muslims in every way, their temples couldn’t attract any attention. They were scapegoated by the Muslim rulers anytime anything went wrong and their wealth was seized by being taken as “loans” at zero interest which were only repaid at the discretion of the Muslim rulers. The Jews never had the power to screw the Muslims, they were always a discriminated against and despised minority. The Muslims used them as bankers because the Koran forbade Muslims charging interest, then raised to mob against when the Jews showed signs or becoming too prosperous.
Right... I know this is part of the Zionist schtick, deny there was anyone there, and then claim you cheated those people out of their land fair and square.
This is what has gotten you chased out of every country in Europe. It's like you never learn.
OF course you completely ignored the savagery of Hamas who beats, slaughters and tortures their own people because you're a stooge China boy a self appointed spokesman for a for terrorists , a totalitarian communist regime and student of the German Nazi party.... You're quite miserable piece of work there Swalwell
OF course you completely ignored the savagery of Hamas who beats, slaughters and tortures their own people because you're a stooge China boy a self appointed spokesman for a for terrorists , a totalitarian communist regime and student of the German Nazi party.... You're quite miserable piece of work there Swalwell
And this is the negative of social media. Antisemitic organizations employ Jew-haters to spread lies and propaganda, and the average level of intelligence has dropped so much (in America, at least), that the gullible idiots - already predisposed to think the worst of Jews, eagerly lap it up.
And this is the negative of social media. Antisemitic organizations employ Jew-haters to spread lies and propaganda, and the average level of intelligence has dropped so much (in America, at least), that the gullible idiots - already predisposed to think the worst of Jews, eagerly lap it up.
That’s because the western media is overwhelmingly liberal, and they resent when a persecuted minority continually overcomes bigotry. It runs counter to their argument that people who fail are victims of bigotry.
Andrew Fox – former British Army officer and an associate fellow at the Henry Jackson Society – returns to The Brendan O’Neill Show. Andrew and Brendan discuss the real reasons Gazans are going hungry, why Hamas’s casualty figures can’t be trusted and how the rush to recognise a Palestinian state is only prolonging the war.
In the Gaza war, journalism has become a veritable Ponzi scheme of lies. It uses terrorists posing as journalists to tell lies, it lies about the evidence that they were terrorists and it lies about those lying about the lies.
Israel said it had conducted a targeted killing of the al Jazeera '‘journalist” Anas al Sharif because he was also a Hamas commander. It produced screen shots identifying al Sharif as a leader in a Hamas rocket-launching squad and member of the Nukhba force, the stormtroopers who led the depraved attack on Israelis on October 7 2023. It showed that he had joined Hamas in 2013 and even revealed his military ID number.
It further emerged that al Sharif was named in a lawsuit by American victims of October 7 against al Jazeera for providing “substantial assistance” to Hamas. The lawsuit quotes messages al Sharif posted on Telegram on October 7 as the massacre of 1200 Israelis developed. He wrote in one message:
Nine hours later and the heroes are still roaming the country, killing and capturing… God, God, how great you are.
Before the attack, Sharif posted photos of himself smiling alongside Hamas leaders, including the eliminated October 7 mastermind Yahya Sinwar.
None of that cut any ice with Western media outlets that vilified Israel for targeting a journalist. Instead, the media dismissed all this evidence with declarations that Israel’s claims couldn’t be verified and that it had provided “no proof”.
The evidence that’s actually playing out before us is of millions of people being manipulated and lied to. It’s utterly shocking how so many can be implacably convinced that black is white. They believe it because they want to — as the Islamists understand very well. That’s why the strategy is so wicked. It has cleverly weaponised the profound desire in the West to be rid once and for all of the Jews’ historic victim status which lies so heavily on the Western conscience; and the desire also, at an even deeper level, to be rid of the Jews themselves.
It is a brilliant, diabolical strategy, it is poisoning an entire society and the media is its instrument. Rather than exposing the abuse of power, journalism has itself become an abuse of power.
The scale of this exercise in global manipulation to advance an agenda of sheer evil, and the extent to which it has succeeded, is beyond belief and should terrify us all.
OF course you completely ignored the savagery of Hamas who beats, slaughters and tortures their own people because you're a stooge China boy a self appointed spokesman for a for terrorists , a totalitarian communist regime and student of the German Nazi party.... You're quite miserable piece of work there Swalwell
I think you are missing the point, or don't understand human nature.
"He might be a jerk, but he's our jerk!"
Palestinians will tolerate the "savagery" of their leaders, just like most people do. When outsiders do it, they're likely to get upset, especially if they already have long-standing grievances with the outsider.
And sorry, torturing a few of your own people for awful behavior like profiteering off of stolen food, is a lot less egregious in the eyes of Palestinians compared to EVERYTHING the Zionists have done to them in the last 80 years.
Is any of this getting through, or have the steroids damaged your brain?
you see, here's the problem. People don't hate you for who you are, they hate you for what you do. That you refuse to see this distinction is on you.
Everyone can agree that what happened on Oct 7th was horrible, but slaughtering 100 times that number over two years is just more than most sane people can rationalize.
And this is the negative of social media. Antisemitic organizations employ Jew-haters to spread lies and propaganda, and the average level of intelligence has dropped so much (in America, at least), that the gullible idiots - already predisposed to think the worst of Jews, eagerly lap it up.
That’s because the western media is overwhelmingly liberal, and they resent when a persecuted minority continually overcomes bigotry. It runs counter to their argument that people who fail are victims of bigotry.
The evidence that’s actually playing out before us is of millions of people being manipulated and lied to. It’s utterly shocking how so many can be implacably convinced that black is white. They believe it because they want to — as the Islamists understand very well. That’s why the strategy is so wicked. It has cleverly weaponised the profound desire in the West to be rid once and for all of the Jews’ historic victim status which lies so heavily on the Western conscience; and the desire also, at an even deeper level, to be rid of the Jews themselves.
It is a brilliant, diabolical strategy, it is poisoning an entire society and the media is its instrument. Rather than exposing the abuse of power, journalism has itself become an abuse of power.
The scale of this exercise in global manipulation to advance an agenda of sheer evil, and the extent to which it has succeeded, is beyond belief and should terrify us all.
Killing 1200 Israelis was bad. Killing 72,000 or 100,000 Palestinians through bombing, bullets or starvation is substantially worse.
You aren't the victims here. If any other country acted the way yours does, they would be subject to sanctions (at best) or military intervention (at worst).
Secret U.S. missile and electro-optics technology was transferred to China recently by Israel, prompting anger from the U.S. and causing a senior Israeli defense official to resign.
The head of defense exports for the Israeli Defense Ministry resigned after a U.S. investigation concluded that technology, including a miniature refrigeration system manufactured by Ricor and used for missiles and in electro-optic equipment, was sent to China, according to the Israeli newspaper Maariv.
In the early 1990s then-CIA Director James Woolsey told a Senate Government Affairs Committee that Israel had been selling U.S. secrets to China for about a decade. More than 12 years ago the U.S. demanded Israel cancel a contract to supply China with Python III missiles, which included technology developed by the U.S. for its Sidewinder missiles, The Associated Press reported in 2002.
China, denied access to the technology sector of most Western countries, has chosen a partnership with Israel to improve its own capabilities.
www.gisreportsonline.com
Since 1979, Israel has sold China billions of dollars in military equipment and technology, mostly key components and technology prototypes. Although Western countries also sold weapons to China prior to 1989, Israel significantly contributed to improving the quality of the Chinese military’s weapons.
After Western countries banned arms sales to China, Beijing turned to Russia, Ukraine and Israel. According to a report by the U.S.-China Economic and Security Review Commission, since 2010 Israel has ranked second after Russia as a supplier of weapons systems and sophisticated military technology.
I think you are missing the point, or don't understand human nature.
"He might be a jerk, but he's our jerk!"
Palestinians will tolerate the "savagery" of their leaders, just like most people do. When outsiders do it, they're likely to get upset, especially if they already have long-standing grievances with the outsider.
And sorry, torturing a few of your own people for awful behavior like profiteering off of stolen food, is a lot less egregious in the eyes of Palestinians compared to EVERYTHING the Zionists have done to them in the last 80 years.
Is any of this getting through, or have the steroids damaged your brain?
you see, here's the problem. People don't hate you for who you are, they hate you for what you do. That you refuse to see this distinction is on you.
Everyone can agree that what happened on Oct 7th was horrible, but slaughtering 100 times that number over two years is just more than most sane people can rationalize.
It's not hard to think the worst of people when they routinely do awful things.
Except you aren't the persecuted minority here. You are like the abused child who grows up to be a serial killer.
Killing 1200 Israelis was bad. Killing 72,000 or 100,000 Palestinians through bombing, bullets or starvation is substantially worse.
You aren't the victims here. If any other country acted the way yours does, they would be subject to sanctions (at best) or military intervention (at worst).
Hamas kills a few dozen people who are political rivals or in some cases, commit crimes that offend their cultural sensibilities (like being a kiddie diddler).
The Zionists are slaughtering men, women, and children by the thousands.
