Hamas leader: Nations are recognizing Palestinian state due to ‘fruits of October 7’

[Jroc]

These are lengthy, but worth listening to and watching.​

The real reason the conflict continues

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The problem is Jew haters on this board don't want Israel's survival ...they want Jews dead or subjugated to some totalitarian governments too bad for them

 

[toomuchtime_]

The problem is Jew haters on this board don't want Israel's survival ...they want Jews dead or subjugated to some totalitarian governments too bad for them

They can't be recognizing a Palestinian state because none exists and there are not even the most rudimentary elements present for creating a state are present. It would be more proper to say they are imagining a Palestinians state.

 

[Jroc]

They can't be recognizing a Palestinian state because none exists and there are not even the most rudimentary elements present for creating a state are present. It would be more proper to say they are imagining a Palestinians state.

I makes these people who push that stuff feel good....it's not possible the way things are today

 

[gipper]

You stupid f*** 500,000 Ukrainians have been killed in the war with Russia and equal or even more Russians you stupid f*** over 1 million combined dead .... idiot ... That's a problem with kids on an adult board , your brain isn't developed enough yet

Soldiers idiot. Not women and children like you cowardly ******* Zionists.

 

[JoeB131]

You idiot Hamas killed all those people you f****** moron every person that has died is responsibility of the terrorist want them dead... you're such a low life sleazy scum of a human being you can't even really reason with idiots like you because you're just a f****** diot you have tunnel vision with the Jew hate stuff it's the only thing you know and most of what you talk about on this board you cant get along in real life .

No, the IDF killed all those people.

Military action by who?

" Hamas destroyed us, they killed my father, they killed my brother"

Hope this girl is ok and hamas didn't kill her for speaking out..

Military action by NATO. The Zionists have killed FAR more people than the Serbian Military did, but NATO unleashed holy hell on Serbia for invading Kosovo.

I hope they gave her a sandwich for saying what they wanted to hear.

 

[JoeB131]

You stupid f*** 500,000 Ukrainians have been killed in the war with Russia and equal or even more Russians you stupid f*** over 1 million combined dead .... idiot ... That's a problem with kids on an adult board , your brain isn't developed enough yet

Actually, the total number of DEAD in Ukraine is 31,000 soldiers and 13,000 civilians.

Ukraine civilian war casualties 2026| Statista

Almost four years since the invasion of Ukraine, the civilian death toll was over 15,170 as of January 2026, as verified by OHCHR.

www.statista.com

63,000 Palestinians have been killed in this war, most of them non-combantants.

Casualties of the Gaza war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Shusha]

Actually, the total number of DEAD in Ukraine is 31,000 soldiers and 13,000 civilians.

Very similar numbers. 35,000 soldiers (Hamas and other militia and combatants) and 25,000 civilians. Fairly remarkable considering the significant difference that the people of Gaza were actively prevented by Egypt from fleeing the war zone.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

you could manage to gather this international force (and I agree, it won't happen), do you envision them using military force to complete the defense of Israel by dismantling Hamas and destroying the military infrastructure and their capacity to attack Israel in the future?

I imagine them using force to protect Gazans and the people there to help them.

If that means killing every member of Hamas, then that's a bonus.

 

[Shusha]

I imagine them using force to protect Gazans and the people there to help them.

If that means killing every member of Hamas, then that's a bonus.

I think you mean that this international force would work WITH Israel and FOR the people of Gaza and AGAINST Hamas. Did I read you right?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I think you mean that this international force would work WITH Israel and FOR the people of Gaza and AGAINST Hamas. Did I read you right?

Yes,but primarily to help the citizens of Gaza.

Which Israel is clearly unwilling to do or incapable of doing themselves.

 

[Shusha]

Which Israel is clearly unwilling to do or incapable of doing themselves.

I entirely disagree with this assessment.

 

[AZrailwhale]

If Russia did to Ukraine what Israel has done to Gaza, we’d have WWIII to stop the slaughter and these hypothetical Zionist idiots would support it.

Russia has done worse. It makes constant missile attacks against purely civilian targets, has attacked Chernobyl trying to breach the containment structures to create a nuclear fallout disaster, kidnaped Ukranian children and farmed them out to Russian families, blockaded food shipment via the Black Sea, or at least attempted to do so until the Ukrainians sunk most of the Black Sea Fleet. Unlike the Israelis, the Russians issued no warnings of their attacks, haven't established safety corridors or no-attack zones for civilians.

 

[Lisa558]

Russia has done worse. It makes constant missile attacks against purely civilian targets, has attacked Chernobyl trying to breach the containment structures to create a nuclear fallout disaster, kidnaped Ukranian children and farmed them out to Russian families, blockaded food shipment via the Black Sea, or at least attempted to do so until the Ukrainians sunk most of the Black Sea Fleet. Unlike the Israelis, the Russians issued no warnings of their attacks, haven't established safety corridors or no-attack zones for civilians.

Of course Russia has done worse. The lies and smearing of Israel are all driven by antisemitism.

 

[Jroc]

Soldiers idiot. Not women and children like you cowardly ******* Zionists.

There's been 50,000 Ukrainian civilian casualties since the war started you dumbass they may have a real government and they can count who's been killed unlike the propaganda that's seeping into your little pea brain.... Reports given out by the Gaza health ministry which doesn't even exist there is no government there.. get back to your video games

 

[Jroc]

Soldiers idiot. Not women and children like you cowardly ******* Zionists.

There's been 50,000 Ukrainian casualties it's a war started you dumbass they may have a real government and they can count who's been killed unlike the propaganda that's seeping into your little pea brain.... Reports given out by the Gaza health ministry which doesn't even exist

No, the IDF killed all those people.


Military action by NATO. The Zionists have killed FAR more people than the Serbian Military did, but NATO unleashed holy hell on Serbia for invading Kosovo.

I hope they gave her a sandwich for saying what they wanted to hear.

"Hamas beat those people in the streets because they were doing bad stuff, it was only a few people"


"The logic of China Joe. ..

Hitler only killed the Jews and the German people turned them in to be shipped to the concentration camps and the gas Chambers because the Jews were prominent in the Communist revolution in Russia"

Another rationale from China Joe


"Meo only let 40 to 50 million people starve to death because he was experimenting with the Communist revolution"

That's the logic of China Joe swalwell ...The board apologist for terrorists and totalitarian regimes give him a hand for his genius

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I entirely disagree with this assessment.

Then look me up when it happens.

Because, in reality, Bibi wants all the Gazans to leave Gaza.

Where in that you see the will to help them rebuild Gaza is a mystery to me.

 

[FDR_Reagan]

Palestinians in West Bank city of Nablus celebrate Hamas infiltration operation into Israel.
AP Archive.
2023, Oct 12.



Palestinians celebrate #October7 terror attack at Australia vs Palestine World Cup soccer match.
AIJAC.
2023, Nov 23.


October 7 is a 'celebration' for pro-Palestine protesters
Sky News Australia
Oct 9, 2024


Polls: It’s not just Hamas – it’s all Palestinians. 98% said Oct. 7 events “made them proud”.
Itamar Marcus|Oct 7, 2024

Polls: It’s not just Hamas – it’s all Palestinians. 98% said Oct. 7 events “made them proud” | PMW Analysis

What do Palestinians think about the October 7 massacre?

palwatch.org

All Palestinians “praised and cheered” Oct. 7, admits Abbas’ advisor.
Nan Jacques Zilberdik|Jul 28, 2025.

All Palestinians “praised and cheered” Oct. 7, admits Abbas’ advisor | PMW Analysis

Hamas brought disaster to Gaza but the massacre on Oct. 7 was a celebration as if the Palestinians “had liberated Jerusalem”

palwatch.org

 

[toomuchtime_]

No.

I want you to understand something. In matters of Israel's self defense, I side with the liberal democracy with an almost secular government, in Israel. Not with the surrounding Muslims who would form a new caliphate to take Israel. And, if I could convert every loony fundie Muslim to Judaism by snapping my fingers, I would do it.

None of this is bigotry against jews or Israel. I think they have gone to far and should stop immediately, and the other civilized countries of the world need to line up and go there and help the Gazans.

Probably won't happen.

You are so full of shit. With every post you confirm you are a bigot.

First off, Israel is a liberal democracy, you ignorant pos, and in that same sentence you express your bigotry toward people of faith, most specifically observant Jews, but all of this is irrelevant to the war in Gaza. It is just you expressing your personal biases.

You claim to support Israel's right to defend itself, but not against the Palestinians, virtually all of whom support endless war against Israel until it is destroyed, so you don't support Israel's right to defend itself.

You say Israel has gone too far - how far is too far, you ignorant bigot - and must stop, but Hamas has set the conditions for ending the war, a complete Israeli withdrawal from Gaza so they can smuggle more weapons from Egypt and be prepared to launch another Oct 7 attack. When you say Israel should stop, that is the outcome you are supporting and that is the outcome Israel is fighting to prevent.

In every instance concerning this war, you seek to characterize Israel as the villain and the Palestinians who are committed to Israel's destruction as innocent victims, so when Israel and the US says they will facilitate the voluntary relocation of Gazans, you claim that they are saying they will drive the Palestinians out of Gaza.

Now you are proposing that foreign countries send troops to Gaza to force Israel to end the war against the Hamas terrorists, and to help the Palestinians, whose only goal is the destruction of Israel. Clearly, there is no other word to describe you than bigot.

Then again, I understand you are only trying to present the talking points of the Democratic Party, nearly all of whom have gone over to the dark side and now support the Palestinians' war against Israel and condemn Israel's efforts to defend itself.

 

[JoeB131]

Very similar numbers. 35,000 soldiers (Hamas and other militia and combatants) and 25,000 civilians. Fairly remarkable considering the significant difference that the people of Gaza were actively prevented by Egypt from fleeing the war zone.

Yeah, no one believes Zionist claims that it's only 50K or that 70% of them were "Soldiers".

There's been 50,000 Ukrainian casualties it's a war started you dumbass they may have a real government and they can count who's been killed unlike the propaganda that's seeping into your little pea brain.... Reports given out by the Gaza health ministry which doesn't even exist

Except that independent agencies agree with their assessment.

First independent survey of deaths in Gaza reports more than 80,000 fatalities

Results align with other efforts to count the number of people killed amid the ongoing conflict.

www.nature.com

Almost 84,000 people died in Gaza between October 2023 and early January 2025 as a result of the Hamas–Israel war, estimates the first independent survey of deaths. More than half of the people killed were women aged 18–64, children or people over 65, reports the study, which was posted on the preprint server medRxiv last week

Hitler only killed the Jews and the German people turned them in to be shipped to the concentration camps and the gas Chambers because the Jews were prominent in the Communist revolution in Russia"

Oh, it wasn't just Russia, it was Germany itself.

Here's a 1919 Cartoon. Not a Nazi Cartoon, Nazis didn't exist yet. This was the prevelant feeling after World War I. The Central Powers lost because Jewish Revolutionairies stabbed them in the back.

Now, yeah, this seems harsh... but when you eat the family dog to stay alive, harsh has a whole new meaning.

First off, Israel is a liberal democracy, you ignorant pos, and in that same sentence you express your bigotry toward people of faith, most specifically observant Jews, but all of this is irrelevant to the war in Gaza. It is just you expressing your personal biases.

Israel isn't a liberal democracy; it's an apartheid state.

 

[Jroc]

Actually, the total number of DEAD in Ukraine is 31,000 soldiers and 13,000 civilians.

Ukraine civilian war casualties 2026| Statista

Almost four years since the invasion of Ukraine, the civilian death toll was over 15,170 as of January 2026, as verified by OHCHR.

www.statista.com

63,000 Palestinians have been killed in this war, most of them non-combantants.

Casualties of the Gaza war - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

There's over 1.5 million combined casualties on both sides the Russian Ukraine war probably 500,000 dead.. you have no idea what who's dead in Gaza none you have no idea who's a terrorist and who is the so-called civilian and the Gaza health ministry which doesn't really exist they do they were probably the ones beating those people in the streets you dumbass