Hamas Leader Killed

[Sherlock Holmes]

If the court believed the prosecutor had sufficient evidence, there would be no reason not to issue the warrants immediately.

But the court has never issued warrants immediately so why do you expect it to in this case?

 

[gipper]

Only a brainwashed person like yourself would accept it.

You really do think the Israelis are an oppressed people, not the Palestinians.

Am I right?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You really do think the Israelis are an oppressed people, not the Palestinians.

Am I right?

He does, when an Israeli is told he cannot do anything he pleases anytime he wants to anyone he wants, that's interpreted as antisemitism, persecution of Jews AKA entitlement.

 

[toomuchtime_]

But the court has never issued warrants immediately so why do you expect it to in this case?

I know you can't help being stupid, but that doesn't mean you have to be so boring. The only reason courts don't issue warrants right away is that they don't believe there is sufficient evidence. That's true unless you are saying you think the ICC is all about politics rather than about law.

 

[gipper]

I know you can't help being stupid, but that doesn't mean you have to be so boring. The only reason courts don't issue warrants right away is that they don't believe there is sufficient evidence. That's true unless you are saying you think the ICC is all about politics rather than about law.

STFU. You are a bigoted fool who supports mass murder of defenseless women and children.

Know your place.

If there is a Hell, you best be careful.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I know you can't help being stupid, but that doesn't mean you have to be so boring.

I'm sorry if being asked to explain your absurd claims isn't very interesting for you.

The only reason courts don't issue warrants right away is that they don't believe there is sufficient evidence.

So what about all the warrants which were not issued right away but were issued?

That's true unless you are saying you think the ICC is all about politics rather than about law.

Every warrant ever issued by the ICC was issued after at least a month. i.e. not immediately.

 

[toomuchtime_]

You really do think the Israelis are an oppressed people, not the Palestinians.

Am I right?

For a thousand years before Britain came to Palestine, the Jews were oppressed and persecuted in all Muslim lands

"From the early years of Islamic civilization, Muslim jurists, basing on Qur’anic directives, devised an elaborate hierarchy in which monotheistic non-Muslims, such as Christians and Jews, would be “protected” at a low level and tolerated as second-class citizens. Guidelines for their treatment were embodied in the “Pact of ‘Umar.” Limitations on the status of non-Muslims included discriminatory clothing regulations and occupational restrictions. Non-Muslims were required to pay a poll tax (jizya) as well as discriminatory taxes on agricultural produce."

“Ornament of the World” and the Jews of Spain

At times tolerant, at other times intensely intolerant, Spain’s intergroup relations formed a fragile coexistence of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Although often tenuous, the coexistence of diverse languages, peoples, and religions produced an extraordinary symbiosis and distinctive...

www.neh.gov

but when the Arabs tried to impose their will on the Jews in British Palestine, the Jews refused to bow down to them, and ever since the Arabs, now mostly the Palestinians, wage war after war to try to force the Jews to either bow down to them or die. Today, the Palestinians clearly want to oppress the Jews, but they can't.

 

[toomuchtime_]

I'm sorry if being asked to explain your absurd claims isn't very interesting for you.

So what about all the warrants which were not issued right away but were issued?

Every warrant ever issued by the ICC was issued after at least a month. i.e. not immediately.

And be sure to include that wish for warrants in your letter to Santa this year.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

For a thousand years before Britain came to Palestine, the Jews were oppressed and persecuted in all Muslim lands

"From the early years of Islamic civilization, Muslim jurists, basing on Qur’anic directives, devised an elaborate hierarchy in which monotheistic non-Muslims, such as Christians and Jews, would be “protected” at a low level and tolerated as second-class citizens. Guidelines for their treatment were embodied in the “Pact of ‘Umar.” Limitations on the status of non-Muslims included discriminatory clothing regulations and occupational restrictions. Non-Muslims were required to pay a poll tax (jizya) as well as discriminatory taxes on agricultural produce."

“Ornament of the World” and the Jews of Spain

At times tolerant, at other times intensely intolerant, Spain’s intergroup relations formed a fragile coexistence of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Although often tenuous, the coexistence of diverse languages, peoples, and religions produced an extraordinary symbiosis and distinctive...

www.neh.gov

but when the Arabs tried to impose their will on the Jews in British Palestine, the Jews refused to bow down to them, and ever since the Arabs, now mostly the Palestinians, wage war after war to try to force the Jews to either bow down to them or die. Today, the Palestinians clearly want to oppress the Jews, but they can't.

Your interpretation of this is at best highly inaccurate.

If it were true that Arabs universally hated Jews then why would any sane Jew ever agree to go and settle there? If the hatred is such that there will be endless war and killing why would any sane Jew ever choose to live there?

The answer is that you (your premise) are obviously wrong, Jews were eager to relocate to Palestine because they DIDN"T feel persecuted there else nobody would ever have gone there especially as millions had already been exterminated under a regime that hated Jews in Germany, no Jew would put themselves into that situation again.

The hatred - and yes it exists - is recent not ancient, it stems from the adoption of European nationalist ideologies which were embraced by early militant Zionists. It has been imported to the Levant from OUTSIDE of the Levant, from the same part of the world where Nazism developed, it is utterly alien to the Levant and Arab culture.

Zionists learned how to be militant and reactionary from European nationalism (Hitler, Mussolini, Franco), some Jews even voted for and supported the Nazis.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

You certainly aren’t smart Nazi.

If you say so, commie.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Your interpretation of this is at best highly inaccurate.

If it were true that Arabs universally hated Jews then why would any sane Jew ever agree to go and settle there? If the hatred is such that there will be endless war and killing why would any sane Jew ever choose to live there?

The answer is that you (your premise) are obviously wrong, Jews were eager to relocate to Palestine because they DIDN"T feel persecuted there else nobody would ever have gone there especially as millions had already been exterminated under a regime that hated Jews in Germany, no Jew would put themselves into that situation again.

The hatred - and yes it exists - is recent not ancient, it stems from the adoption of European nationalist ideologies which were embraced by early militant Zionists. It has been imported to the Levant from OUTSIDE of the Levant, from the same part of the world where Nazism developed, it is utterly alien to the Levant and Arab culture.

Zionists leaned how to be militant and reactionary from European nationalism.

There is no interpretation, moron, as you well know. The classification of Jews as second class citizens was embodied in Islamic law, and the superiority of Muslims over non Muslims was and is a core value of Muslim culture.

After 1920, Jews immigrated to Palestine under British law and Islamic law did not apply, but the Arabs continued to try to impose their will on the Jews, and that led to the Arabs' 1948 attempt to kill all the Jews and to all the conflicts since and to all the humiliations and losses that Arabs, now mostly the Palestinians have experienced, but clearly, all of this has been self inflicted by the Palestinians on themselves.

 

[Mac-7]

Wrong! Arabs owned 70% of the land in Palestine.

YOU are the mother-fuckers that MOVED into the area!

Arabs who were lucky enough to own land inside the Jewish sector still own that land to this day

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

There is no interpretation, moron, as you well know. The classification of Jews as second class citizens was embodied in Islamic law, and the superiority of Muslims over non Muslims was and is a core value of Muslim culture.

I don't dispute that the Ottoman empire treated non-Muslims differently, every theocracy has acted that way and that in no way supports the claim that Jews were persecuted, that Arabs harbor a deep seated hatred to Jews. Jews were once treated differently in England because they weren't Christians but you don't claim all English people have a deep seated hatred of Jews.

If Arabs hated Jews in the way you imply, Jews would have left the Levant many many years before and the idea of moving there to setup a "Jewish National Home" would never have got off the ground because nobody but a fool would want to live surrounded by a majority who hates them.

After 1920, Jews immigrated to Palestine under British law and Islamic law did not apply, but the Arabs continued to try to impose their will on the Jews, and that led to the Arabs' 1948 attempt to kill all the Jews and to all the conflicts since and to all the humiliations and losses that Arabs, now mostly the Palestinians have experienced, but clearly, all of this has been self inflicted by the Palestinians on themselves.

The Arabs resisted Zionism, resisted the British commitment to creating a Jew supremacist state and handing over half of Palestine to a foreign colony. I'd have resisted, any sane self respecting person would resist the imposition of a colony of nationalist Jews from Europe with the support of the Brutish Empire.

The British and Zionists discussed and planned ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1919 and no doubt earlier - I've shown you the British records of this so what excuse can you give for pretending you don't know?

 

[gipper]

For a thousand years before Britain came to Palestine, the Jews were oppressed and persecuted in all Muslim lands

"From the early years of Islamic civilization, Muslim jurists, basing on Qur’anic directives, devised an elaborate hierarchy in which monotheistic non-Muslims, such as Christians and Jews, would be “protected” at a low level and tolerated as second-class citizens. Guidelines for their treatment were embodied in the “Pact of ‘Umar.” Limitations on the status of non-Muslims included discriminatory clothing regulations and occupational restrictions. Non-Muslims were required to pay a poll tax (jizya) as well as discriminatory taxes on agricultural produce."

“Ornament of the World” and the Jews of Spain

At times tolerant, at other times intensely intolerant, Spain’s intergroup relations formed a fragile coexistence of Muslims, Christians, and Jews. Although often tenuous, the coexistence of diverse languages, peoples, and religions produced an extraordinary symbiosis and distinctive...

www.neh.gov

but when the Arabs tried to impose their will on the Jews in British Palestine, the Jews refused to bow down to them, and ever since the Arabs, now mostly the Palestinians, wage war after war to try to force the Jews to either bow down to them or die. Today, the Palestinians clearly want to oppress the Jews, but they can't.

So in your “mind” it’s okay to mass murder the Palestinians today, because after all they’re subhumans.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

He requested warrants because he had sufficient evidence (not yet public) to do so.

What makes you think the court is "ignoring" the request for warrants?

(This is where you admit you made something up)

 

[Shusha]

It is mind boggling how so many on this board are unsympathetic and hateful toward Palestinians. They are terribly immoral and unethical. They would never state such opinions about any other race or religion of people.

You are utterly incorrect that I have no sympathy nor harbour hate toward the Palestinians. (Though I am without doubt disappointed in some of their choices, and the choices of their leadership). My ethics and morality are sound and more sophisticated than the tit-for-tat-numbers-counting demonstrated by many here.

I simply place the responsibility for this war, and thus, for the innocents killed in this war, where it belongs - Hamas and everyone in Gaza who supported Hamas in the October 7 atrocities and the 20-year building of military infrastructure to engage in this war.

You have still not answered my question: Are all wars genocide, or just this one?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So in your “mind” it’s okay to mass murder the Palestinians today, because after all they’re subhumans.

Little chihuahua, little bark

In reality, the rules of war state it is okay to target civilian facilities, when the opponent is using them as command centers.

And that the terrorists doing so are committing war crimes themselves.

 

[Shusha]

Compare the numbers killed and wounded by Hamas with that of your nation of Israel?

You didn't answer my question. It is not a difficult question.

IF Hamas embeds military objectives within protected places, has Hamas committed a war crime?

It's just a yes or no.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

You didn't answer my question. It is not a difficult question.

IF Hamas embeds military objectives within protected places, has Hamas committed a war crime?

It's just a yes or no.

Do you mean war crimes like this one the Israelis are committing, using Jewish settlements as human shields?

 

[gipper]

You didn't answer my question. It is not a difficult question.

IF Hamas embeds military objectives within protected places, has Hamas committed a war crime?

It's just a yes or no.

There are no protected places in Gaza. Israel bombs everything including schools, hospitals, and residential buildings. This is undeniable.

If you think it’s appropriate for Israel to bomb civilians because they think Hamas is hiding there, I disagree. Massive numbers of civilians have been murdered by Israel on purpose. It’s called a genocide.