Guys...Nancy Pelosi totally didn't go to congress to make $133 million. Honest. She's just really good at picking stocks

The sad part is that it IS legit. Congress makes the rules they live by and insider trading is perfectly legal under their rules. It shouldn't be, but it is. It is allowed for both sides of course.
I think that if people stopped trusting politicians to tell the truth, stopped listening to the MSM and all the propaganda, and started digging deeper into how the government actually functions (try following the money) most people would end up realizing that the government does not work for the people, it only works for themselves and their benefactors. Believing that politicians work tirelessly for our maximum benefit is worse than believing in the tooth fairy.
 
Bill and Hillary are the most investigated couple in history. Probably. Whitewater, Vince Forster, email servers, Benghazi, etc. Bill was caught getting a BJ from an intern. What did they ever get her on?

Trump, on the other hand, was impeached, found guilty is various courts, got himself a jet, and made a billion while in office.
Makes me think you don't understand real politics.
 
I think that if people stopped trusting politicians to tell the truth, stopped listening to the MSM and all the propaganda, and started digging deeper into how the government actually functions (try following the money) most people would end up realizing that the government does not work for the people, it only works for themselves and their benefactors. Believing that politicians work tirelessly for our maximum benefit is worse than believing in the tooth fairy.
It is easy blame politicians but the failure is with the voters. We want a free lunch and we're surprised that we end up paying for it in the end.

We want honest politicians but refuse to pay for them. Our country is a trillion dollar business but we pay our top government officials a salary comparable to a vice president in a mid-sized company. Companies can offer great perks, e.g., travel, to get the ear of a politician. Is it any wonder that politicians see their path to riches as doing favors for companies that will later hire them in thanks.

We want honest elections but refuse to pay for them. Getting elected can cost millions so our politicians have to constantly raise money and we forget that Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.
 
There is a Pelosi tracker. It publishes all of her disclosed stock moves.

If one just followed what she did, they would have beaten the market by FAR.
 
It is easy blame politicians but the failure is with the voters. We want a free lunch and we're surprised that we end up paying for it in the end.

We want honest politicians but refuse to pay for them. Our country is a trillion dollar business but we pay our top government officials a salary comparable to a vice president in a mid-sized company. Companies can offer great perks, e.g., travel, to get the ear of a politician. Is it any wonder that politicians see their path to riches as doing favors for companies that will later hire them in thanks.

We want honest elections but refuse to pay for them. Getting elected can cost millions so our politicians have to constantly raise money and we forget that Golden Rule: Those with the gold make the rules.
There are no honest politicians, period. First, it takes a lot of money, from rich donors that want something in return, just to win an election. Second, if politicians ever told the truth during a campaign, no one would ever vote for them. Third, everyone is greedy by nature and all the lobbyists banging down their doors offer a lot of money to do what they want instead of what the people want. Fourth, the existing politicians getting filthy rich from being a politician would run any honest politicians right out of town immediately. It is just foolish to think that politicians are, or could ever be, good, honest people.
 
Not a favorite of mine, BUT 133 million sounds reasonable.
Need to show first if the parents of her or husband left them any sizable amount of money.
Then would need to know how much hubby earned.
and her total salary over her long years in government.
PS How many people in politics Can you count who are poor?
 
There are no honest politicians, period. First, it takes a lot of money, from rich donors that want something in return, just to win an election. Second, if politicians ever told the truth during a campaign, no one would ever vote for them. Third, everyone is greedy by nature and all the lobbyists banging down their doors offer a lot of money to do what they want instead of what the people want. Fourth, the existing politicians getting filthy rich from being a politician would run any honest politicians right out of town immediately. It is just foolish to think that politicians are, or could ever be, good, honest people.
Like Lincoln or Washington? Follow the money.
 
Like Lincoln or Washington? Follow the money.
Do you have any proof that George Washington never told a lie? or Lincoln? Both had 100% integrity, told the people only the truth and did not play politics? Sure there have been some great presidents hundreds of years ago, but were they everything all the people expected? No POTUS was even close to perfect, and most were pretty bad. And all the presidents since Kennedy (and he was no saint, either) have been very low on the scale of integrity and honesty. All of them.
 
Do you have any proof that George Washington never told a lie? or Lincoln? Both had 100% integrity, told the people only the truth and did not play politics? Sure there have been some great presidents hundreds of years ago, but were they everything all the people expected? No POTUS was even close to perfect, and most were pretty bad. And all the presidents since Kennedy (and he was no saint, either) have been very low on the scale of integrity and honesty. All of them.
If perfection is your expectation, it makes me think you don't understand real people.

Trump is famous for lying to voters, yet, at least, 40% of the voters in the country support him. We have essentially rewarded being lied to.
 
If perfection is your expectation, it makes me think you don't understand real people.

Trump is famous for lying to voters, yet, at least, 40% of the voters in the country support him. We have essentially rewarded being lied to.
And we're back to square one. You don't understand politics. Politics is the art of lying. Politicians lie. It's their job. I think that if people stopped trusting politicians to tell the truth, stopped listening to the MSM and all the propaganda, and started digging deeper into how the government actually functions (try following the money) most people would end up realizing that the government does not work for the people, it only works for themselves and their benefactors. Believing that politicians work tirelessly for our maximum benefit is worse than believing in the tooth fairy.
 
Not a favorite of mine, BUT 133 million sounds reasonable.
Need to show first if the parents of her or husband left them any sizable amount of money.
Then would need to know how much hubby earned.
and her total salary over her long years in government.
PS How many people in politics Can you count who are poor?
If she began with 10 million, (her hubby was rich), when she got her very first job at around 45 yrs old, as a congresswoman and she spent 40 plus years in congress, having $133 million net worth now, seems even low.....
 
And we're back to square one. You don't understand politics. Politics is the art of lying. Politicians lie. It's their job. I think that if people stopped trusting politicians to tell the truth, stopped listening to the MSM and all the propaganda, and started digging deeper into how the government actually functions (try following the money) most people would end up realizing that the government does not work for the people, it only works for themselves and their benefactors. Believing that politicians work tirelessly for our maximum benefit is worse than believing in the tooth fairy.
So what are you doing to change things?
 
So what are you doing to change things?
There is nothing I can do, I am not a billionaire and have absolutely no influence on the federal and state governments, and have very little influence on the mayor of my little town. But that doesn't mean I have to blindly trust one of the two corrupt political parties and dedicate my life to all their causes. I spent my life making sure I am never dependent on the government, and making sure whatever the government does it won't harm me or my family. That was the best I could do.

Out of curiosity, do you believe what dumocrap politicians say, and almost all journalists? You seem to think only Trump lies. Or maybe only republicans lie. Did Obama fulfill all his campaign promises and was 100% honest with the people? Ditto for Biden? Do you really trust the dumocrap party? I tend to think you do.
 
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There is nothing I can do, I am not a billionaire and have absolutely no influence on the federal and state governments, and have very little influence on the mayor of my little town. But that doesn't mean I have to blindly trust one of the two corrupt political parties and dedicate my life to all their causes. I spent my life making sure I am never dependent on the government, and making sure whatever the government does it won't harm me or my family. That was the best I could do.
Are you a voter or have you washed your hands of our democracy?

Out of curiosity, do you believe what dumocrap politicians say, and almost all journalists? You seem to think only Trump lies. Or maybe only republicans lie. Did Obama fulfill all his campaign promises and was 100% honest with the people? Ditto for Biden? Do you really trust the dumocrap party? I tend to think you do.
I believe ALL politicians spin and make promises. Trump is in a class by himself, his promises and spin are so extreme they are really just lies and Republican voters don't hold him accountable.
 
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Are you a voter or have you washed your hands of our democracy?


I believe ALL politicians spin and make promises. Trump is in a class by himself, his promises and spin are so extreme they are really just lies and Republican voters don't hold him accountable.
I vote when I deem it necessary. Note that I am an Independent and don't have a loyalty to one party.

Why are you so obsessed with Trump? How are YOU holding Trump accountable? By bitching on an obscure political forum that no politicians ever read? By voting for whatever braindead, corrupt dumocrap is running? Do you really think all your effort to oppose Trump moves the needle? How can Trump voters hold him accountable more than the dumocrap party and the MSM already do? Trump voters voted for Trump because they felt he was the better choice. In a democracy, you have to accept that.

Moreover, you speak of accountability, do you hold all the dumocrap politicians who lie, spin and make empty promises accountable? Schumer just said the black community is too stupid to get photo ID and asking for photo ID is Jim Crow 2.0. Do you agree with that massive lie or did you hold him accountable? Kamala Harris was one big lie and as fake as press on nails. But you all voted for her without calling out all the lies and fakeness. I think it is obvious you and the dumocraps who really refuse to hold your beloved parties politicians accountable, just like the republicans. So, are you just another brainwashed partisan, like every other partisan on both sides?
 
I vote when I deem it necessary. Note that I am an Independent and don't have a loyalty to one party.
When is it NOT necessary? No two candidates are the same.

Why are you so obsessed with Trump? How are YOU holding Trump accountable? By bitching on an obscure political forum that no politicians ever read? By voting for whatever braindead, corrupt dumocrap is running? Do you really think all your effort to oppose Trump moves the needle? How can Trump voters hold him accountable more than the dumocrap party and the MSM already do? Trump voters voted for Trump because they felt he was the better choice. In a democracy, you have to accept that.
Trump is just the most extreme example of a lying politician so he is my gold standard. I accept democracy even when I don't like it.

Moreover, you speak of accountability, do you hold all the dumocrap politicians who lie, spin and make empty promises accountable? Schumer just said the black community is too stupid to get photo ID and asking for photo ID is Jim Crow 2.0. Do you agree with that massive lie or did you hold him accountable? Kamala Harris was one big lie and as fake as press on nails. But you all voted for her without calling out all the lies and fakeness. I think it is obvious you and the dumocraps who really refuse to hold your beloved parties politicians accountable, just like the republicans. So, are you just another brainwashed partisan, like every other partisan on both sides?
I personally voted, not for Harris, but against Trump but at that point it is really too late. It is the primaries that matter more for filtering out the wheat from the chaff. Trump lied his way through the primaries against other, more honest, conservative candidates.
 
When is it NOT necessary? No two candidates are the same.


Trump is just the most extreme example of a lying politician so he is my gold standard. I accept democracy even when I don't like it.


I personally voted, not for Harris, but against Trump but at that point it is really too late. It is the primaries that matter more for filtering out the wheat from the chaff. Trump lied his way through the primaries against other, more honest, conservative candidates.

How did the Democrat primary work out for you?
 

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