Gun deaths in perspective.

[Carl in Michigan]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

The US has 55 million Hispanics and 42 million blacks.

Only about 3% of your 64 million are black, and you don't even have 200,000 Latinos in the U.K.

You don't have high murder rates or gun violence in your country because you've wisely kept minorities out. All of those scary statistics you see about violence and crime in the US are caused mainly by minorities. If the US had minority rates like the U.K., we would have the same crime rates. Gun ownership has nothing to do with it.

Well that'll piss off the Left, pointing out the obvious. They hate that!

 

[Uncensored2008]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

I have a bullet in my roof and my garage, what did do it to deserve that:? We have a bunch of morons shooting guns off an New Years and all these illegal Mexicans trying to cap each other besides, what can the rest us do?

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

The only one who will protect you and your family is you and your family.

 

[Markle]

Gun control works.

Yes, but it depends on your goal!

 

[Marion Morrison]

"sexual offences, including rape, increased by 29% to top 100,000 for the first time in 2015. But the Office for National"

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

Now if them wimmen had a lil .25 or something, it might not be like that.

 

[2aguy]

You see shootings in Liverpool, England......check their news out...

And the stabbings.....you have groups of teenagers stabbing 15 year olds to death.....

 

[MaryL]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

And your gun laws had nothing to do with it......why is it that your gun crime and murder rate are the same as they were before and after the ban...and are now going up? Your gun laws didn't change anything......but your social welfare system, which has created young males with impulse control problems...and your immigration policies....are now creating the violence you think you don't have...

Calm down kiddo. We are all on the same page here.

 

[2aguy]

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

And your gun laws had nothing to do with it......why is it that your gun crime and murder rate are the same as they were before and after the ban...and are now going up? Your gun laws didn't change anything......but your social welfare system, which has created young males with impulse control problems...and your immigration policies....are now creating the violence you think you don't have...

Calm down kiddo. We are all on the same page here.

Not excited.....and no, we aren't all on the same page....those who think that gun laws stop gun crime are fools......and Britain is finding this out....

 

[basquebromance]

30k deaths from guns a year = Gun Ban

38-50k deaths from Muslims = ?

Who wants to ban Muslims? Liberals? Where ya at?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

IF that was the case, why does Great Britain have a much higher violent crime rate than we do here in the United States?

Its because of the way crime is recorded.

 

[2aguy]

The criminals in Britain are beginning to embrace guns as the tools of crime.......and they have sociopaths created by the British welfare state and immigration policies to use those guns.....

Rising number of guns being smuggled into UK, Metropolitan police say

More guns are being seized in cities across Britain as the number of firearms being smuggled into the country increases, Britain’s most senior police officer has said.

Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, the Metropolitan police commissioner, told a hearing at London’s City Hall that a rise in gun crime in the capital was being put down to an increase in the number of weapons coming into the country.

The Met seized a “worrying” record number of weapons in 2015, including semiautomatic guns, Hogan-Howe said.

“We’ve seized more firearms than ever before,” he said. “In the previous year [2015] we’ve seized 714 guns – that’s around two per day. In a city this size, that’s a worrying number. This is an increase on previous years. Some of them are semiautomatic weapons, too.

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

IF that was the case, why does Great Britain have a much higher violent crime rate than we do here in the United States?

Its because of the way crime is recorded.

Keep telling yourself that....

 

[Markle]

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

2011

Anders Behring Breivik (Norwegian pronunciation: [ˈɑnːəʂ ˈbeːrɪŋ ˈbrɛiviːk];[6] born 13 February 1979) is a Norwegian far-right terrorist who committed the 2011 Norway attacks. On 22 July 2011 he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid the Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants of a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya.[7][8] In August 2012 he was convicted of mass murder, causing a fatal explosion, and terrorism.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and **** all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

 

[Papageorgio]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

Since your crime rate is fourth highest in the world and we are only 22nd, maybe you should take care of your problems before sticking your nose in others.

 

[Markle]

Nope. Nobody wants guns. The country would become as dangerous as the US.

Already it is more dangerous than the United States. Why? Violent criminals know they stand a good chance of meeting with deadly force.

 

[2aguy]

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and **** all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

No...Germans were not allowed to own guns....nazi party members were allowed to own guns.....Jews and political enemies were disarmed using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....the socialists used those lists from the 20s to disarm their victims...who gave up their guns because they trusted their government.....

Germans were murdered, because Europe did nothing....we had to save you...again.....

And the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the socialists......and after the war they gave up their guns again.....having learned nothing from those 12 million people murdered.......

 

[MaryL]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

I have a bullet in my roof and my garage, what did do it to deserve that:? We have a bunch of morons shooting guns off an New Years and all these illegal Mexicans trying to cap each other besides, what can the rest us do?

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

The only one who will protect you and your family is you and your family.

I love your avatar. We are more likely to die from cancer or in a car accident. Firearms are magnificent achievements of western technology , they are works of art But I never have been confronted with someone brandishing a Rembrandt.

 

[miketx]

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

And your gun laws had nothing to do with it......why is it that your gun crime and murder rate are the same as they were before and after the ban...and are now going up? Your gun laws didn't change anything......but your social welfare system, which has created young males with impulse control problems...and your immigration policies....are now creating the violence you think you don't have...

Calm down kiddo. We are all on the same page here.

Not excited.....and no, we aren't all on the same page....those who think that gun laws stop gun crime are fools......and Britain is finding this out....

SO are the many fools here.

 

[Papageorgio]

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and **** all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

You would do well to STFU about our gun laws and work on your high crime rate.