Gun deaths in perspective.

[koshergrl]

So 100 posts down the line there is no response to the fact that the UK is safer than the US because we arent gun obsessed wankers.

No, we pretty much all agreed that you're a lying sack is what happened.

 

[koshergrl]

Excuse me. I like guns their nice and everything, Beautiful machines. But the fear they create, I can do without. I have bullets in my house, and have had morons with guns threaten me. Do you comprehend how evil guns are? i thought we westerners were

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

There are no subways in Birmingham. There is no metro system either.

http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?10320

Nothing would make me happier than to move to England right now, buster.

So don't be afraid. And we all encourage you to move to England.

Of course they won't let you just walk across their border and take up residence. WE'RE the only ones who do that.

 

[Markle]

Ever have a gun pointed at you? It's something you don't forget. I still have nightmares about that, seeing the muzzle flash and I can still feel the heat from the discharge, like it just happened.

A few times. I just shot quicker and was a terrific shot.

 

[Markle]

So 100 posts down the line there is no response to the fact that the UK is safer than the US because we arent gun obsessed wankers.

Was that your goal? To lie and get 100 posts?

 

[MaryL]

Ever have a gun pointed at you? It's something you don't forget. I still have nightmares about that, seeing the muzzle flash and I can still feel the heat from the discharge, like it just happened.

A few times. I just shot quicker and was a terrific shot.

Please. Don't patronize me. We all deserve better than that.

 

[Markle]

Please. Don't patronize me. We all deserve better than that.

You asked, I just spent some time in SE Asia in the '60's.

 

[MaryL]

Please. Don't patronize me. We all deserve better than that.

You asked, I just spent some time in SE Asia in the '60's.

I lost a friend and a acquaintance in Vietnam , their name is on the wall in DC. But I digress. Vietnam, now there's an issue in and of it self.

 

[Lastamender]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

 

[MaryL]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

Tommy is a unique individual. I am a atheist. I despise any form of religious meddling. I loathe guns, it seems the worst people with the best of intentions have them.I can do without religion or guns, thank you very much.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

Tommy is a unique individual. I am a atheist. I despise any form of religious meddling. I loathe guns, it seems the worst people with the best of intentions have them.I can do without religion or guns, thank you very much.

You sleep peacefully at night because men with guns are willing to do violence and risk life and limb on your behalf.

True story. Keep this in mind: They are minutes away when someone's breaking into your house.

You only have seconds, however.

 

[Lastamender]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

Tommy is a unique individual. I am a atheist. I despise any form of religious meddling. I loathe guns, it seems the worst people with the best of intentions have them.I can do without religion or guns, thank you very much.

There is nothing unique about a self righteous dumbass.

 

[MaryL]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

Tommy is a unique individual. I am a atheist. I despise any form of religious meddling. I loathe guns, it seems the worst people with the best of intentions have them.I can do without religion or guns, thank you very much.

There is nothing unique about a self righteous dumbass.

The irony of that statement.

 

[Markle]

I lost a friend and a acquaintance in Vietnam , their name is on the wall in DC. But I digress. Vietnam, now there's an issue in and of it self.

So did I, but it is not an issue with me.

 

[Lastamender]

Tommy doesn't like me, I bet he would like to shoot me if he had a gun There you go.

Tommy doesn't like Tommy.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

We can only hope Islamics take over our cities and our schools. There are much bigger problems than responsible gun owners, no matter where they live. Your culture is disappearing voluntarily with help from people like you.

Tommy is a unique individual. I am a atheist. I despise any form of religious meddling. I loathe guns, it seems the worst people with the best of intentions have them.I can do without religion or guns, thank you very much.

There is nothing unique about a self righteous dumbass.

The irony of that statement.

Bring it.

 

[2aguy]

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and **** all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

No...Germans were not allowed to own guns....nazi party members were allowed to own guns.....Jews and political enemies were disarmed using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....the socialists used those lists from the 20s to disarm their victims...who gave up their guns because they trusted their government.....

Germans were murdered, because Europe did nothing....we had to save you...again.....

And the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the socialists......and after the war they gave up their guns again.....having learned nothing from those 12 million people murdered.......

Jews were disarmed after Kristalnacht in 1938. However the majority of Germans wernt and they did **** all before 1938 or after to stop the slaughter. I am not sure what they could have done really. You simplify a complex situation down to an idiot level.

Its hugely dishonest of you to cite this flimsy case in support of your primitive gun laws.
Perhaps you should consider the fate of the Syrians today. they are not really subject to any gun laws and are being slaughtered every day. Their right to bear arms is doing them **** all good.

Wrong..

The enemies of the socialists were disarmed using the gun registration lists,created in the 1920s.....this helped the nazis...because when they targeted a victim, the victim was helpless.....their political opponents could not fight back.....and if you read about the fight in the Warsaw Ghetto, you would realize that several hundred thousand armed people, fighting back, could have slowed down the slaughter.....and if the other European countries hadn't disarmed their citizens, it would have been impossible for the socialists to hold all of that territory...


And then you have the Swiss......435,000 armed citizens. .because they were armed and ready to fight the Germans did not invade......I have posted on this before......the unarmed Europeans...invaded and murdered...the armed Swiss...left alone......

You don't think....you emote.......you should try harder.........

 

[2aguy]

So 100 posts down the line there is no response to the fact that the UK is safer than the US because we arent gun obsessed wankers.

You have had page after page showing that your country is more violent......and that only the decision by criminals not to commit murder keeps your murder rate low.......your gun laws do nothing to stop your crime...

Sadly, the culture that kept your criminals from murder is declining........and you will see what it is really like to be unarmed.....

 

[Issa]

It is very sad that some Americans believe that guns will keep them safe. Do you guys even wonder why other countries don't have this epidemic of gun voilence, mass shootings? Do you ever visit other countries and see how safe it is.
I visited lot of countries the US is a mad house, gun violence is out of control abiding citizens or not its sickening. In the western hemesphere the US is number one in fatalities due to gun violence, it's embarrassing that it ranks among countries like Salvador, Brasil, iraq, and so forth.
Wake up people, the world is laughing at this.

 

[Issa]

Ubeleivable the amount of ignorance in this post.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

Europe has had pretty much constant war since Roman times. So I am not sure what point you are trying to make.
Regarding your ignorant remarks about the holocaust I cant form anything coherent to this gibberish. Germans were allowed to own guns and **** all good it did them.
Millions of Germans were murdered whilst the US looked the other way. You would do well to stfu about the holocaust.

No...Germans were not allowed to own guns....nazi party members were allowed to own guns.....Jews and political enemies were disarmed using the gun registration lists created in the 1920s....the socialists used those lists from the 20s to disarm their victims...who gave up their guns because they trusted their government.....

Germans were murdered, because Europe did nothing....we had to save you...again.....

And the governments of Europe handed over their citizens to the socialists......and after the war they gave up their guns again.....having learned nothing from those 12 million people murdered.......

Jews were disarmed after Kristalnacht in 1938. However the majority of Germans wernt and they did **** all before 1938 or after to stop the slaughter. I am not sure what they could have done really. You simplify a complex situation down to an idiot level.

Its hugely dishonest of you to cite this flimsy case in support of your primitive gun laws.
Perhaps you should consider the fate of the Syrians today. they are not really subject to any gun laws and are being slaughtered every day. Their right to bear arms is doing them **** all good.

Wrong..

The enemies of the socialists were disarmed using the gun registration lists,created in the 1920s.....this helped the nazis...because when they targeted a victim, the victim was helpless.....their political opponents could not fight back.....and if you read about the fight in the Warsaw Ghetto, you would realize that several hundred thousand armed people, fighting back, could have slowed down the slaughter.....and if the other European countries hadn't disarmed their citizens, it would have been impossible for the socialists to hold all of that territory...


And then you have the Swiss......435,000 armed citizens. .because they were armed and ready to fight the Germans did not invade......I have posted on this before......the unarmed Europeans...invaded and murdered...the armed Swiss...left alone......

You don't think....you emote.......you should try harder.........

 

[Papageorgio]

It is very sad that some Americans believe that guns will keep them safe. Do you guys even wonder why other countries don't have this epidemic of gun voilence, mass shootings? Do you ever visit other countries and see how safe it is.
I visited lot of countries the US is a mad house, gun violence is out of control abiding citizens or not its sickening. In the western hemesphere the US is number one in fatalities due to gun violence, it's embarrassing that it ranks among countries like Salvador, Brasil, iraq, and so forth.
Wake up people, the world is laughing at this.

The U.K. has a higher crime rate than the US, so do many countries, so I guess I feel safer in the U.S. than in countries that have a higher crime rate. I don't think it's a mad house.

 

[LuckyDuck]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Oh, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy......guess what, we still aren't giving up our guns....period!