Gun deaths in perspective.

[Tommy Tainant]

No, its the truth.

I doubt that.

I know that I FEEL far less safe in Birmingham England than I do in Birmingham Alabama. Statistically I am FAR more likely to be robbed or assaulted in the UK city.

Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

 

[MaryL]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totterers now?

 

[2aguy]

Don't you ever get tired of your tired narrative? I think you're just jealous you can't own guns.

How much did knife killings increase?

Do people in the UK even trap shoot? I know they used to.

Gun crime is up 10% in London and other major cities.....their gun control laws didn't reduce their gun crime levels...in fact, they went up after they implemented the ban......

Their gun murder rate.....went up...then returned to the same level it was at before they banned guns for everyone....which shows the gun laws didn't stop their gun murder.....

We added close to 200 million guns between 1990s and 2016...and our gun crime rate dropped 75%.....our gun murder rate dropped 49%....and our violent crime rate dropped 72%

Their gun crime rate in 2016....is going up...not down...

Murder and homicide rates before and after gun bans - Crime Prevention Research Center

 

[MaryL]

The sheer blindness of human beings never ceases to amaze me.

 

[2aguy]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

 

[Uncensored2008]

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Tell me about your trips to Birmingham. I know it really well and visit at least once a week.

I found the train station really creepy with all the signs advising of pick pockets. Hotel people telling me not to walk in the subways alone because of the likelihood of muggings doesn't instill confidence.

Remember Tainted Pommy, crime and especially VIOLENT CRIME is vastly higher in the UK than in America. You might not get shot, but your chances of being the victim of a violent crime are far higher on your side of the pond.

I've been to Birmingham 5 times. We had a plant in Coventry and I would fly into Birmingham, then take the train to Coventry. Stayed at a nasty place called the Hyland since it was close to the plant.

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

The had the Cumbria Shootings in 2010 genius.....they don't have mass shootings because of British culture, not because of their gun laws.....

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

And your gun laws had nothing to do with it......why is it that your gun crime and murder rate are the same as they were before and after the ban...and are now going up? Your gun laws didn't change anything......but your social welfare system, which has created young males with impulse control problems...and your immigration policies....are now creating the violence you think you don't have...

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

There were more mass shooting victims in France in 2015 than the entire obama 8 years genius....your Europe is changing.....because you imported violent people....

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

Our car death number was far higher than yours too.......

Leading Causes of Death | WISQARS | Injury Center | CDC

Total car accidental death....

2015....36,161
2014....33,736
2013....33,804
2012....34,935

 

[2aguy]

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

America was founded on slavery. Not all men were free.

Yes....British slavers brought the slaves here after buying them from African slavers....and we have been living with the mess you guys made ever since...

 

[koshergrl]

I am atypical American. this love affair Americans have with firearms is a symptom of a psychosis. And westerners love affair with their cars. What is up with that?

You are atypical.

Most of us love guns and cars. We love guns because we are not dependent upon others to keep us safe, and we love cars because we live in areas where it's not possible to access everything within a few feet of our front doors.

 

[2aguy]

It's rather simple. No guns, no mass shootings. Do the math.

Its absolutely fundamental.

Your thread is fundamental FAIL.

Murder rate in England and Wales rises 11%

And it still equates to one night of gun death in the US. You can only dream of murder rates as low as ours,or the rest of civilised Europe really.

So how is the RAPE by MUSLIMS working out for Europe nowadays?

My bet is there's a lot of Europeans now wishing they had their guns back.

Nope. Nobody wants guns. The country would become as dangerous as the US.

You are now arming more of your police, genius.....

 

[Markle]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

IF that was the case, why does Great Britain have a much higher violent crime rate than we do here in the United States?

 

[2aguy]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

 

[koshergrl]

Hey, did you know drunk drivers kill more people than people with guns do? We should make it illegal to drive drunk.

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

And they were FINE with it!

 

[miketx]

In the UK 19 people were killed by guns in the last declared figures (2015) . There were 27 the year before and 30 the year before that.

There hasnt been a day this year that only 19 people have been killed by guns in the US. Or any year in living memory.

Gun control works.

http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/CBP-7654/CBP-7654.pdf

Simply put, you have no perspective and have no clue what you are talking about. Better yet, why not just leave us alone until next time you bloody cowards are overran and we can airdrop you some guns to save your worthless asses when the muslims finally take you all by force of will?

 

[Uncensored2008]

It is in the UK.

Cool, so no one in the UK dies because of drunk drivers..

There are around 3000 deaths a year. A lot higher than our gun death body count. We need to work on that to bring it down to the gun death level.
There are certainly licensing lessons that could be taken on board.

But you said that driving drunk is illegal, so there can't be anyone doing it....

England has a LONG history of disarmed peasants. The culture is to strip the lower castes of basic rights such as those of self-defense.

America was not founded on the feudal model, which still is the foundation of Europe (and the UK to a lesser extent.) We are a nation of free men, and free men have the right to arms, just as your nobility does.

I have looked at that idea....that Europe had so little violence because of their history of peasants and the feudal system......vs. countries that did not have a feudal system......

Then....try looking at the effects of WW1 and WW2....it created a huge belief in pacifism in the face of aggression....

And then.....just think.....Europe gave over 12 million people to the socialists in Germany who murdered them in gas chambers.......they had less interpersonal killing...but much more government controlled killing....

And they were FINE with it!

I believe the European view is that "one death is a tragedy, a million deaths are a statistic."

 

[MaryL]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

I have a bullet in my roof and my garage, what did IT do to deserve that:? We have a bunch of morons shooting guns off at New Years and all these illegal Mexicans trying to cap each other besides, what can the rest us do?

 

[miketx]

We had a yet other mass shooting in California in a elementary school , deja vu all over again. We are supposed to arm totters now?

No...we need to end gun free zones.....

I have a bullet in my roof and my garage, what did do to deserve that:? We have a buch of morons shooting guns off an New Year and all these illegal Mexicans trying to cap each other besides, what can the rest us do?

Arm yourselves. Get rid of the illegals.