Gun Control Has Only 1 Motive - Confiscation of All Guns from Law Abiding Citizens

[M14 Shooter]

Please provide a link to the existence of your fantasy rifle. Here is the relevant page in the Blue Book of Gun Values. As you can see, there is no Model 741A, nor has there ever been one.

Don't feed the troll.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Fear monger much?
NO one is contemplating "gun confiscation of all guns".

No one? Zero examples?
It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
You have been proven wrong.

That's not even CLOSE to the sensible gun regs that have been proposed..

As you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or the efficacy of, the gun laws you want, there's no sense whatsoever to be found in them.

That’s why they won’t list a finite ‘must haves’ on gun control. It’s all about riding that slippery slope towards total confiscation.

Already have. We have them in Colorado. And you don't like them. My only suggestion is, don't move here, we don't want you.

Then why did Colorado just pass new gun laws and have other laws in the pipeline.

Try again.

Only one law has been passed since 2013 and that is the Red Flag Law. And after the hullabaloo BS even that was accepted by the the Sheriffs and Police Departments. There are NO other laws in the pipeline. Our laws work and they work well. We just don't pay any attention to the lies of either side especially from people like you. The Hate ends here.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

It's Model 741A, stupid.

And I have a ton of time with M-16s includiing the AR-15 Model 601. Since you are the expert on this, what is the first external difference between the M-16 and the AR-15 Model 601 (M-16). If you can't answer that then I suggest people should stop listening to anything you have to say on this, or any other subject.

And there is no such thing, dumbass. There is no Model 741, or 741A. Never has been. The AR 15 Model 614 is what you meant to say(I actually own one). Like I said, don't talk guns with people who actually are experts in the field.

The 741A wasn't related one bit to any of the AR family, stupid. You are just doing a "Hey, look over there moment". I meant what I typed. And you still haven't told us the difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and a M-16. What is the external identifying feature. It has only one other than the stamping. Get it done, and stop with the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. It's called lying.

I didn't say it was, stupid. What I said is there is no such thing as a Remington Model 741A. Never has been.

Now address your lie, and I will humor you with your Model 601 silliness.

The 741A was based a Model 700 produced between 1959 to 1962 with a bull barrel, nylon ribbed front stock with a wire folding metal wire shoulder stock chambered for the 300 H&H Mag. There were only 3 people that would own it. It was a Gun Collector, a long range target shooter or a sniper or assassin. The AF bought a hand full of them. At first glance, one would think it was an AR-15 on steroids but the same design features were built into it that Stoner used to design his AR, that's all. The Model 721 was essentially the same gun except had a full wooden stock. Class dismissed.

Now, get on with the external difference between the AR-15 Model 601(M-16) (the M-16 was later stamped on when the Model 602 M-16 was adopted by the US Army and Marines) outside of the stamping.

Please provide a link to the existence of your fantasy rifle. Here is the relevant page in the Blue Book of Gun Values. As you can see, there is no Model 741A, nor has there ever been one.

I already stated what it was. It was special order only and there were only a few produced. It won't be in that cat.

Now that we know you are a google cowboy, what is the external difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and any of the M-16s (Model 602 thru 604) other than the stamping? Comon, you claim to be an expert. Hate to break it to you but you won't find this answer in a google search.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Fear monger much?
NO one is contemplating "gun confiscation of all guns".

No one? Zero examples?
It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
You have been proven wrong.

That's not even CLOSE to the sensible gun regs that have been proposed..

As you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or the efficacy of, the gun laws you want, there's no sense whatsoever to be found in them.

That’s why they won’t list a finite ‘must haves’ on gun control. It’s all about riding that slippery slope towards total confiscation.

Already have. We have them in Colorado. And you don't like them. My only suggestion is, don't move here, we don't want you.

Then why did Colorado just pass new gun laws and have other laws in the pipeline.

Try again.

Only one law has been passed since 2013 and that is the Red Flag Law. And after the hullabaloo BS even that was accepted by the the Sheriffs and Police Departments. There are NO other laws in the pipeline. Our laws work and they work well. We just don't pay any attention to the lies of either side especially from people like you. The Hate ends here.

Oopsey.

Colorado Dems Plan To Pursue A Variety Of Gun Laws In 2020

 

[M14 Shooter]

Oopsey.
Colorado Dems Plan To Pursue A Variety Of Gun Laws In 2020

He lied?
Again?
Huh.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

Only one law has been passed since 2013 and that is the Red Flag Law. And after the hullabaloo BS even that was accepted by the the Sheriffs and Police Departments. There are NO other laws in the pipeline. Our laws work and they work well. We just don't pay any attention to the lies of either side especially from people like you. The Hate ends here.

Colorado Dems Plan To Pursue A Variety Of Gun Laws In 2020
You are very misinformed, Daryl.

EDIT: Weatherman knows how to google faster than me. Daryl doesn't know how to google at all.
.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Colorado Dems Plan To Pursue A Variety Of Gun Laws In 2020
You are very misinformed, Daryl.

Further evidence that anti-gun loons will never stop trying to place more restrictions on the rights of the law abiding.

 

[anynameyouwish]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

And there is no such thing, dumbass. There is no Model 741, or 741A. Never has been. The AR 15 Model 614 is what you meant to say(I actually own one). Like I said, don't talk guns with people who actually are experts in the field.

The 741A wasn't related one bit to any of the AR family, stupid. You are just doing a "Hey, look over there moment". I meant what I typed. And you still haven't told us the difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and a M-16. What is the external identifying feature. It has only one other than the stamping. Get it done, and stop with the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. It's called lying.

I didn't say it was, stupid. What I said is there is no such thing as a Remington Model 741A. Never has been.

Now address your lie, and I will humor you with your Model 601 silliness.

The 741A was based a Model 700 produced between 1959 to 1962 with a bull barrel, nylon ribbed front stock with a wire folding metal wire shoulder stock chambered for the 300 H&H Mag. There were only 3 people that would own it. It was a Gun Collector, a long range target shooter or a sniper or assassin. The AF bought a hand full of them. At first glance, one would think it was an AR-15 on steroids but the same design features were built into it that Stoner used to design his AR, that's all. The Model 721 was essentially the same gun except had a full wooden stock. Class dismissed.

Now, get on with the external difference between the AR-15 Model 601(M-16) (the M-16 was later stamped on when the Model 602 M-16 was adopted by the US Army and Marines) outside of the stamping.

Please provide a link to the existence of your fantasy rifle. Here is the relevant page in the Blue Book of Gun Values. As you can see, there is no Model 741A, nor has there ever been one.

I already stated what it was. It was special order only and there were only a few produced. It won't be in that cat.

Now that we know you are a google cowboy, what is the external difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and any of the M-16s (Model 602 thru 604) other than the stamping? Comon, you claim to be an expert. Hate to break it to you but you won't find this answer in a google search.

Have we confirmed that it is the ******* selector switch?


.

 

[M14 Shooter]

That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own gun
I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

Gun-related homicides and gun-related violent crime would fall to record low levels - how is this a bad thing?

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

Right now Democrat’s are saying only law abiding people are restricted. Felons with guns they just release.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

No one? Zero examples?
It’s Time to Ban Guns. Yes, All of Them.
You have been proven wrong.
As you cannot demonstrate the necessity for, or the efficacy of, the gun laws you want, there's no sense whatsoever to be found in them.

That’s why they won’t list a finite ‘must haves’ on gun control. It’s all about riding that slippery slope towards total confiscation.

Already have. We have them in Colorado. And you don't like them. My only suggestion is, don't move here, we don't want you.

Then why did Colorado just pass new gun laws and have other laws in the pipeline.

Try again.

Only one law has been passed since 2013 and that is the Red Flag Law. And after the hullabaloo BS even that was accepted by the the Sheriffs and Police Departments. There are NO other laws in the pipeline. Our laws work and they work well. We just don't pay any attention to the lies of either side especially from people like you. The Hate ends here.

Oopsey.

Colorado Dems Plan To Pursue A Variety Of Gun Laws In 2020

News from a rtwingnutjob website that just makes it up as they go. Hate to break it to you (no I don't) but the fear that was spread has passed. The fear of the Red Flag Law has run it's course and it's widely accepted. All your nutcase website is doing is trying to keep that flame going and make it spread to even higher levels. Sorry, it's not even a smouldering ember anymore. Your hate is noted.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

Right now Democrat’s are saying only law abiding people are restricted. Felons with guns they just release.

Your hate is noted.

 

[westwall]

And there is no such thing, dumbass. There is no Model 741, or 741A. Never has been. The AR 15 Model 614 is what you meant to say(I actually own one). Like I said, don't talk guns with people who actually are experts in the field.

The 741A wasn't related one bit to any of the AR family, stupid. You are just doing a "Hey, look over there moment". I meant what I typed. And you still haven't told us the difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and a M-16. What is the external identifying feature. It has only one other than the stamping. Get it done, and stop with the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. It's called lying.

I didn't say it was, stupid. What I said is there is no such thing as a Remington Model 741A. Never has been.

Now address your lie, and I will humor you with your Model 601 silliness.

The 741A was based a Model 700 produced between 1959 to 1962 with a bull barrel, nylon ribbed front stock with a wire folding metal wire shoulder stock chambered for the 300 H&H Mag. There were only 3 people that would own it. It was a Gun Collector, a long range target shooter or a sniper or assassin. The AF bought a hand full of them. At first glance, one would think it was an AR-15 on steroids but the same design features were built into it that Stoner used to design his AR, that's all. The Model 721 was essentially the same gun except had a full wooden stock. Class dismissed.

Now, get on with the external difference between the AR-15 Model 601(M-16) (the M-16 was later stamped on when the Model 602 M-16 was adopted by the US Army and Marines) outside of the stamping.

Please provide a link to the existence of your fantasy rifle. Here is the relevant page in the Blue Book of Gun Values. As you can see, there is no Model 741A, nor has there ever been one.

I already stated what it was. It was special order only and there were only a few produced. It won't be in that cat.

Now that we know you are a google cowboy, what is the external difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and any of the M-16s (Model 602 thru 604) other than the stamping? Comon, you claim to be an expert. Hate to break it to you but you won't find this answer in a google search.

No such thing. The Model 720 Military was a special order. There IS no such thing as Model 741A. It is fantasy.

 

[westwall]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

They would not be conservatives then, cupcake.

 

[Weatherman2020]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

Right now Democrat’s are saying only law abiding people are restricted. Felons with guns they just release.

Your hate is noted.

How dare anyone point out Democrats being soft on violent criminals.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

The 741A wasn't related one bit to any of the AR family, stupid. You are just doing a "Hey, look over there moment". I meant what I typed. And you still haven't told us the difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and a M-16. What is the external identifying feature. It has only one other than the stamping. Get it done, and stop with the "Hey, Look Over There" routine. It's called lying.

I didn't say it was, stupid. What I said is there is no such thing as a Remington Model 741A. Never has been.

Now address your lie, and I will humor you with your Model 601 silliness.

The 741A was based a Model 700 produced between 1959 to 1962 with a bull barrel, nylon ribbed front stock with a wire folding metal wire shoulder stock chambered for the 300 H&H Mag. There were only 3 people that would own it. It was a Gun Collector, a long range target shooter or a sniper or assassin. The AF bought a hand full of them. At first glance, one would think it was an AR-15 on steroids but the same design features were built into it that Stoner used to design his AR, that's all. The Model 721 was essentially the same gun except had a full wooden stock. Class dismissed.

Now, get on with the external difference between the AR-15 Model 601(M-16) (the M-16 was later stamped on when the Model 602 M-16 was adopted by the US Army and Marines) outside of the stamping.

Please provide a link to the existence of your fantasy rifle. Here is the relevant page in the Blue Book of Gun Values. As you can see, there is no Model 741A, nor has there ever been one.

I already stated what it was. It was special order only and there were only a few produced. It won't be in that cat.

Now that we know you are a google cowboy, what is the external difference between an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and any of the M-16s (Model 602 thru 604) other than the stamping? Comon, you claim to be an expert. Hate to break it to you but you won't find this answer in a google search.

No such thing. The Model 720 Military was a special order. There IS no such thing as Model 741A. It is fantasy.

Being the sooper espert you are, you don't know the difference in the external difference between a Colt AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and a Colt M-16 Model 602 thru 602. You won't answer that question because you don't know. Well, cupie, I have fired ALL the variants. And you uber gunnutters are so misinformed that your opinions don't count for anything in any conversation. In fact, you hurt any legislation for or against gun regs.

Here is the answer to that question. It's the charging handle. The original AR-15 Model 601 was NOT called a M-16 because it predates the M-16. But it begat both the AR-15 and the M-16 Model 602. The M-16 uses a T handle while the Model 601 uses or used a diamond charging handle. But as the charging handles on the 601 was replaced, it was replaced by the T handle. ALL parts are interchangeable and have been since 1959. The Army got their hands on a few Colt AR-15 601s and tested them and found them to be an adequate replacement for the M-14 and the M-1A1. The Marines and Navy follow suit. Colt then made the Model 602 which had the M-203 rails that were added to the 601s as a Mod. When that mod was done on the 601, it was restamped AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) while the 602 was stamped M-16.

If you handled a M-16 prior to 1992, you may have held an AR-15 Model 601 (M-16) and not even been aware of it. Of course, you are too stupid to know the difference anyway.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Hitler, Stalin and Mao had that same motive.

"Hitler...."


Gun control in Germany - Wikipedia


"The 1938 German Weapons Act, the precursor of the current weapons law, superseded the 1928 law. As under the 1928 law, citizens were required to have a permit to carry a firearm and a separate permit to acquire a firearm. But under the new law:

- Gun restriction laws applied only to handguns, not to long guns or ammunition. The 1938 revisions completely deregulated the acquisition and transfer of rifles and shotguns, and the possession of ammunition.[8]

- The legal age at which guns could be purchased was lowered from 20 to 18.[9][10]

- Permits were valid for three years, rather than one year.[9]

- Holders of annual hunting permits, government workers, and NSDAP (the National Socialist German Workers' Party) members were no longer subject to gun ownership restrictions. Prior to the 1938 law, only officials of the central government, the states, and employees of the German Reichsbahn Railways were exempted.[8]

- Manufacture of arms and ammunition continued to require a permit, with the proviso that such permits would no longer be issued to any company even partly owned by Jews; Jews could not manufacture or deal in firearms or ammunition.[8]


The 1938 Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons, which came into force the day after Kristallnacht,[11][12] effectively deprived all Jews living under the Third Reich within the occupied Sudetenland and Austria of the right to possess any form of weapons, including truncheons, knives, firearms and ammunition......"

ALL MEMBERS of the NAZI PARTY were EXEMPT!


That would be like if republicans declared that ONLY republicans could own guns.


I have no doubt most conservatives would endorse that idea.

Right now Democrat’s are saying only law abiding people are restricted. Felons with guns they just release.

Your hate is noted.

How dare anyone point out Democrats being soft on violent criminals.

Well, they must be too soft. They haven't locked your butt up yet. But it's still early.

 

[Marion Morrison]

No?
But Weatherman, we only want sensible gun laws passed!


OK

List the ‘sensible’ gun laws that still need to pass and just ONE Democrat saying once these pass we’ve done all we can do, no more laws about guns will be pushed for.

There isn’t one Leftist. It’s all about riding the slippery slope and making sure felons are on the streets to create more violence to further their agenda of grabbing all guns from law abiding citizens.

Now the end game: Name one tyrannical government in modern history that didn’t grab guns from law abiding citizens.

There isn’t one. They all grabbed the guns first.

If I ran the nation, everyone who is mentally competent could buy any six round revolver, bolt action rifle, pump action shotgun they want. But nothing else. So that title you slapped on this thread is just good old fashioned fear mongering. Not all guns, but some of them for sure.

The OP must be drunk. I cant figure out why he would think it was smart to limit what laws you can make regarding anything. Can you imagine some of the draconian laws that would still be in effect today from the 1700's

I did I know you can’t think of any political leader laying out an endgame to gun laws.

Thats probably because no one is stupid enough to lay out an end game to gun laws. That would be like cutting off your right arm.

To you, maybe.

 

[Weatherman2020]

No?
But Weatherman, we only want sensible gun laws passed!


OK

List the ‘sensible’ gun laws that still need to pass and just ONE Democrat saying once these pass we’ve done all we can do, no more laws about guns will be pushed for.

There isn’t one Leftist. It’s all about riding the slippery slope and making sure felons are on the streets to create more violence to further their agenda of grabbing all guns from law abiding citizens.

Now the end game: Name one tyrannical government in modern history that didn’t grab guns from law abiding citizens.

There isn’t one. They all grabbed the guns first.

If I ran the nation, everyone who is mentally competent could buy any six round revolver, bolt action rifle, pump action shotgun they want. But nothing else. So that title you slapped on this thread is just good old fashioned fear mongering. Not all guns, but some of them for sure.

The OP must be drunk. I cant figure out why he would think it was smart to limit what laws you can make regarding anything. Can you imagine some of the draconian laws that would still be in effect today from the 1700's

I did I know you can’t think of any political leader laying out an endgame to gun laws.

Thats probably because no one is stupid enough to lay out an end game to gun laws. That would be like cutting off your right arm.

To you, maybe.

I think using the excuse that they have to keep sensible laws needed secret is an all time low for excuses.