Guide To The Liberal Mind

[rightwinger]

Ahh.. when Liberals start posting cartoons and memes, you know the argument is over.

Sweet smell of torched liberal ass is in the air!

Read my post, then your reply and get back to me

 

[Boss]

Ahh.. when Liberals start posting cartoons and memes, you know the argument is over.

Sweet smell of torched liberal ass is in the air!

Read my post, then your reply and get back to me

There wasn't anything to read, you posted a cartoon. Obviously you were so frustrated you couldn't find words to convey it.... I get it... happens all the time when I school liberals.

Now go suck a cock and try to forget about it.... mmk?

 

[kaz]

Liberals founded this nation

What were they thinking?

Yes, we did, thank you. for the recognition You are an authoritarian leftist, you turned us into your feed bag.

 

[kaz]

The liberal mind can be summed up with one word. Gimme.

 

[Friends]

Workers are kept hungry and in fear of their jobs. Salaries are now stagnant even though our nations wealth is increasing
Time to stop blaming the workers

Sounds to me like it's time to stop being a "worker" and exercise your freedom to do anything you please in the nation which provides you more economic freedom and opportunity than anywhere on the planet.

If being a worker is such an awful deal, why be one? Be an entrepreneur instead. Find what it is you have a passion for and devote yourself to that. People do it every day in this country, some people come to this country just so they can do that. Rather than sitting around complaining about how bad it sucks to be a "worker" stop being one.... be something else!

Same old GOP platitudes that ignore the economic realities of a society vs a single worker

Yes, a single worker may be able to quit and start a business, but 100 million workers can't

Why is Conservative economic theory so lame?

The clear majority of new businesses fail. Also, in order to start a business one needs lots of money.

 

[Boss]

Workers are kept hungry and in fear of their jobs. Salaries are now stagnant even though our nations wealth is increasing
Time to stop blaming the workers

Sounds to me like it's time to stop being a "worker" and exercise your freedom to do anything you please in the nation which provides you more economic freedom and opportunity than anywhere on the planet.

If being a worker is such an awful deal, why be one? Be an entrepreneur instead. Find what it is you have a passion for and devote yourself to that. People do it every day in this country, some people come to this country just so they can do that. Rather than sitting around complaining about how bad it sucks to be a "worker" stop being one.... be something else!

Same old GOP platitudes that ignore the economic realities of a society vs a single worker

Yes, a single worker may be able to quit and start a business, but 100 million workers can't

Why is Conservative economic theory so lame?

The clear majority of new businesses fail. Also, in order to start a business one needs lots of money.

Yep, lot's of new businesses fail. And almost every successful capitalist experienced failure at some point. Again, if it were easy, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire. You do not need a lot of money to start a business. There are countless people who have come to this country as immigrants without a penny to their names, who started businesses and became wealthy. You need a dream, drive and ambition.

What you are now doing is making excuses for failure. What you want is for people to be able to sit on their ass and be taken care of by others because things are too hard. Becoming successful in business IS hard, it's extremely hard, but it can be done, it's done every day.

What you need to understand is, the Liberal Utopian Marxist Socialist Fantasy doesn't exist. There is never going to be a world where you don't have to put forth any effort and everything is going to be handed to you. If you destroy free market capitalism, you have destroyed the only mechanism by which free men can achieve all the wealth they desire. You will have replaced it with dismal and abject poverty the likes of which your mind can't imagine, and hopelessness to ever escape that life in the future. You will have given up your freedom to ruling class elites who will not give a damn about you in the end.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is politics? Have people on this board reached a new low?

 

[Iceweasel]

The clear majority of new businesses fail. Also, in order to start a business one needs lots of money.

That depends on the nature of the business. Some people start out small. Some stay small. Some grow as demand increases. Apple started in a garage. I don't think Microsoft even had that. Most startups fail because the people have surreal expectations, thinking they will be laying on a beach somewhere sipping cocktails while their masterplan rakes in untold sums of money. The reality is that it takes blood, sweat and tears and you'll work harder than an employee, put in more hours, take more risks with little or nothing to fall back on and your employees will act like you did it all so they can enjoy a good livelihood.

 

[Iceweasel]

This is politics? Have people on this board reached a new low?

No, that's what you're here for.

 

[rightwinger]

Workers are kept hungry and in fear of their jobs. Salaries are now stagnant even though our nations wealth is increasing
Time to stop blaming the workers

Sounds to me like it's time to stop being a "worker" and exercise your freedom to do anything you please in the nation which provides you more economic freedom and opportunity than anywhere on the planet.

If being a worker is such an awful deal, why be one? Be an entrepreneur instead. Find what it is you have a passion for and devote yourself to that. People do it every day in this country, some people come to this country just so they can do that. Rather than sitting around complaining about how bad it sucks to be a "worker" stop being one.... be something else!

Same old GOP platitudes that ignore the economic realities of a society vs a single worker

Yes, a single worker may be able to quit and start a business, but 100 million workers can't

Why is Conservative economic theory so lame?

The clear majority of new businesses fail. Also, in order to start a business one needs lots of money.

Yep, lot's of new businesses fail. And almost every successful capitalist experienced failure at some point. Again, if it were easy, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire. You do not need a lot of money to start a business. There are countless people who have come to this country as immigrants without a penny to their names, who started businesses and became wealthy. You need a dream, drive and ambition.

What you are now doing is making excuses for failure. What you want is for people to be able to sit on their ass and be taken care of by others because things are too hard. Becoming successful in business IS hard, it's extremely hard, but it can be done, it's done every day.

What you need to understand is, the Liberal Utopian Marxist Socialist Fantasy doesn't exist. There is never going to be a world where you don't have to put forth any effort and everything is going to be handed to you. If you destroy free market capitalism, you have destroyed the only mechanism by which free men can achieve all the wealth they desire. You will have replaced it with dismal and abject poverty the likes of which your mind can't imagine, and hopelessness to ever escape that life in the future. You will have given up your freedom to ruling class elites who will not give a damn about you in the end.

Once again you fail to explain how your plan of "If you don't like your wages...start a business" will resolve the stagant wages of over 100 million workers for the last 30 years

 

[Friends]

What you need to understand is, the Liberal Utopian Marxist Socialist Fantasy doesn't exist. There is never going to be a world where you don't have to put forth any effort and everything is going to be handed to you. If you destroy free market capitalism, you have destroyed the only mechanism by which free men can achieve all the wealth they desire. You will have replaced it with dismal and abject poverty the likes of which your mind can't imagine, and hopelessness to ever escape that life in the future. You will have given up your freedom to ruling class elites who will not give a damn about you in the end.

Margaret Thatcher said of capitalism, "There is no alternative." Nevertheless, there are alternatives within capitalism. Most people benefit from a mixed economy with a well funded public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation, along with strong labor unions.

In the United States during the twentieth century there was more economic growth, and more job creation per year under Democratic presidents. Even the stock market did better. There was nearly as much growth in the per capita gross domestic product during FDR's first term as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. There was considerably more job creation.

 

[Boss]

Workers are kept hungry and in fear of their jobs. Salaries are now stagnant even though our nations wealth is increasing
Time to stop blaming the workers

Sounds to me like it's time to stop being a "worker" and exercise your freedom to do anything you please in the nation which provides you more economic freedom and opportunity than anywhere on the planet.

If being a worker is such an awful deal, why be one? Be an entrepreneur instead. Find what it is you have a passion for and devote yourself to that. People do it every day in this country, some people come to this country just so they can do that. Rather than sitting around complaining about how bad it sucks to be a "worker" stop being one.... be something else!

Same old GOP platitudes that ignore the economic realities of a society vs a single worker

Yes, a single worker may be able to quit and start a business, but 100 million workers can't

Why is Conservative economic theory so lame?

The clear majority of new businesses fail. Also, in order to start a business one needs lots of money.

Yep, lot's of new businesses fail. And almost every successful capitalist experienced failure at some point. Again, if it were easy, every idiot would be a multi-billionaire. You do not need a lot of money to start a business. There are countless people who have come to this country as immigrants without a penny to their names, who started businesses and became wealthy. You need a dream, drive and ambition.

What you are now doing is making excuses for failure. What you want is for people to be able to sit on their ass and be taken care of by others because things are too hard. Becoming successful in business IS hard, it's extremely hard, but it can be done, it's done every day.

What you need to understand is, the Liberal Utopian Marxist Socialist Fantasy doesn't exist. There is never going to be a world where you don't have to put forth any effort and everything is going to be handed to you. If you destroy free market capitalism, you have destroyed the only mechanism by which free men can achieve all the wealth they desire. You will have replaced it with dismal and abject poverty the likes of which your mind can't imagine, and hopelessness to ever escape that life in the future. You will have given up your freedom to ruling class elites who will not give a damn about you in the end.

Once again you fail to explain how your plan of "If you don't like your wages...start a business" will resolve the stagant wages of over 100 million workers for the last 30 years

Well, I am merely presenting an option. If you don't like being a "worker" stop being one! Be an employer instead! Start your own business! No one has confined you to a class or made you into a worker for life, we live in a free society where you have the ability to be and do anything you please.

I'm trying to get you to comprehend the arguments you are making are from the 19th century Marxist propagandists. In a totalitarian dictatorship, you are a worker because that's the class you were born into, and there is no option to be anything else. So all these emotive arguments to supposedly empower the "worker" were used to work people into a state of rebellion. We don't have that system here, we are a free enterprise, free market capitalist system, with a Constitution that empowers you as an individual. You don't have to be a "worker" all your life, you can be anything you want to be.

When I present this option, you respond with the argument that 100 million people can't do that... but what you're doing is making excuses. 100 million wouldn't have to. Some people wouldn't want to. It's hard work to make a business work, some people don't like hard work. But if people who are dissatisfied with being a worker became their own boss, that's less people being workers, and supply and demand will kick in. Less workers means more pay for people willing to be workers. It's how our free market system works.

 

[Boss]

Margaret Thatcher said of capitalism, "There is no alternative." Nevertheless, there are alternatives within capitalism. Most people benefit from a mixed economy with a well funded public sector of the economy paid for by steeply progressive taxation, along with strong labor unions.

In the United States during the twentieth century there was more economic growth, and more job creation per year under Democratic presidents. Even the stock market did better. There was nearly as much growth in the per capita gross domestic product during FDR's first term as during the terms of Warren G. Harding and Calvin Coolidge. There was considerably more job creation.

Okay, it does not matter if past presidents were Democrats. Up until the election of 2000, the Democrats were predominately conservatives. Most Democrat presidents were conservatives. ALL the Congresses of Democrat presidents were conservative. It is only in the past 15 years the Marxists have overtaken the Democrat party.

Economic growth has nothing to do with the letter beside a president's name. There are policies which can shape the economic future, but sometimes those policies take many years to have an effect, so it's difficult to pinpoint which policies prompted which upturns or downturns in an economy. IF there were a clear template for what produced a robust and vibrant economy, that is ALL ANY PRESIDENT would do! EVERY politician would support that! NO politician would oppose that!

Liberals like to latch on to a statistic then run around claiming it means something it simply doesn't mean.

 

[Friends]

Once again you fail to explain how your plan of "If you don't like your wages...start a business" will resolve the stagant wages of over 100 million workers for the last 30 years

Boss's attitude is that those who do not succeed in business do not matter. There is little point in debating basic attitudes and values.

Nevertheless, in his profile he describes himself as "an open minded conservative." I would like to open his mind to the fact that since 2000 the rich have been getting richer, and the standard of living for most Americans has been declining. I would like also to open his mind to the probability that an economy in which that happens for any length of time is not conducive to a healthy society.

There will not necessarily be a left wing reaction. There may be some sort of populist right wing reaction. The white majority may decide to economically and politically disenfranchise non whites, and perhaps Jews also.

Nevertheless, there will be change. It will not be the sort of change a decent minded conservative will be comfortable with.

 

[Boss]

Once again you fail to explain how your plan of "If you don't like your wages...start a business" will resolve the stagant wages of over 100 million workers for the last 30 years

Boss's attitude is that those who do not succeed in business do not matter. There is little point in debating basic attitudes and values.

Nevertheless, in his profile he describes himself as "an open minded conservative." I would like to open his mind to the fact that since 2000 the rich have been getting richer, and the standard of living for most Americans has been declining. I would like also to open his mind to the probability that an economy in which that happens for any length of time is not conducive to a healthy society.

There will not necessarily be a left wing reaction. There may be some sort of populist right wing reaction. The white majority may decide to economically and politically disenfranchise non whites, and perhaps Jews also.

Nevertheless, there will be change. It will not be the sort of change a decent minded conservative will be comfortable with.

I would like to open his mind to the fact that since 2000 the rich have been getting richer...

Oh no, allow me to correct your erroneous claim here... The rich have always gotten richer. The rich will always get richer in a free capitalist society. You see, rich people in general are smarter about how to create wealth, they have more ambition and drive to do so, and it's how they became rich to begin with. It's like having a marathon race between couch potatoes and runners... who is going to gain more ground over time? Well, the runner is, because that's what the runner does.

So this is always going to happen in a free capitalist society. Rich people will continue to gain wealth faster than poor people. There is no way to stop that unless you stop people from being able to gain wealth. Do we want a society where people are free to gain wealth or where people are stuck in abject poverty their whole life?

What you want is a change where we throw away our freedom to attain wealth for the promise of everyone having relatively the same wealth. The problem is, in such systems, the people who are the ruling class will absorb the wealth and the proletariat masses will be resigned to lives of poverty. Once your freedom is gone you don't get it back if you don't like the outcome.

Now... as opposed to attempting to hobble the marathon runners so the couch potatoes can keep up, I had rather train the couch potatoes to be better runners. I've lived in poverty before, I didn't like it, don't want to go back to that. I'm not ready to give up my freedom to earn as much wealth as I desire, I like that freedom and cherish it. So you can take your Marxist propaganda and stick it where the sun don't shine as far as I'm concerned.

 

[frigidweirdo]

This is politics? Have people on this board reached a new low?

No, that's what you're here for.

Ah, more shit stirring from someone not interested in debating.

 

[Friends]

Oh no, allow me to correct your erroneous claim here... The rich have always gotten richer. The rich will always get richer in a free capitalist society.

During the twentieth century most Americans benefited when the rich were heavily taxed. However, why do you think this is true: "Despite the fact that Wall Street tends to prefer Republican candidates, the stock market historically has performed better under Democratic presidents.

"Since 1900, the Dow has averaged a 7.8% annual gain under Democratic presidents, compared with a 3% annual gain under Republicans, WSJ reported earlier this year."
What an Obama Win May Mean for Stocks - MarketBeat - WSJ

 

[Boss]

Oh no, allow me to correct your erroneous claim here... The rich have always gotten richer. The rich will always get richer in a free capitalist society.

During the twentieth century most Americans benefited when the rich were heavily taxed. However, why do you think this is true: "Despite the fact that Wall Street tends to prefer Republican candidates, the stock market historically has performed better under Democratic presidents.

"Since 1900, the Dow has averaged a 7.8% annual gain under Democratic presidents, compared with a 3% annual gain under Republicans, WSJ reported earlier this year."
What an Obama Win May Mean for Stocks - MarketBeat - WSJ

*SIGH* Well because everything is so wonderful and great when we have Dummycrap presidents! Flowers shoot out of everybody's ass and mana flows from the heavens! Happiness rains down on all our heads and we have not a care in the world, for the Dummycrap president is in charge! People no longer have problems! There is no more poverty! No more sickness! No wars! All of our troubles are over and we have nothing to do but invest in the stock market and make is soar!

Why else? Dumbass!

Look, I already told you in a previous post, it does not matter who is the president. The stock market is the stock market. It rises and falls when the economy is good or bad. One thing is, we've had more years of Democratic presidency in the 20th century, so since the damn stock market historically rises, it would make logical sense it would probably have risen more under Democrats than Republicans... law of averages. Another factor is, when Republicans are elected, it's usually after Democrats have so fucked up the country the people had to elect a Republican to fix it, and while he was fixing it the stock market was down due to the shitty shape the Democrat left us in. Why is it, every time the Rotor-Rooter man is inside my house, the sewer is backed up? Why is it, every time the bug man comes there are bugs all over the place? Why is it, when the cops show up, there's always some sort of trouble going on? Why is it, every time I take my car to a repair shop, something is going wrong with my car?

Liberals always like to grab a statistic and run around claiming it means something that it simply does not mean.

 

[Friends]

Oh no, allow me to correct your erroneous claim here... The rich have always gotten richer. The rich will always get richer in a free capitalist society.

During the twentieth century most Americans benefited when the rich were heavily taxed. However, why do you think this is true: "Despite the fact that Wall Street tends to prefer Republican candidates, the stock market historically has performed better under Democratic presidents.

"Since 1900, the Dow has averaged a 7.8% annual gain under Democratic presidents, compared with a 3% annual gain under Republicans, WSJ reported earlier this year."
What an Obama Win May Mean for Stocks - MarketBeat - WSJ

*SIGH* Well because everything is so wonderful and great when we have Dummycrap presidents! Flowers shoot out of everybody's ass and mana flows from the heavens! Happiness rains down on all our heads and we have not a care in the world, for the Dummycrap president is in charge! People no longer have problems! There is no more poverty! No more sickness! No wars! All of our troubles are over and we have nothing to do but invest in the stock market and make is soar!

Why else? Dumbass!

In your profile you claim to be a writer. Do you write that badly professionally?

 

[Friends]

when Republicans are elected, it's usually after Democrats have so fucked up the country the people had to elect a Republican to fix it.

The Stock Market crash of 1929 helped elect Franklin Roosevelt.

A recession that began in 1960 helped elect John Kennedy.

A recession that began in July 1990 helped elect Bill Clinton.

A recession that began in December 2007 helped elect Barack Obama.

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

From 1921 to 2000 Republicans have been president for forty years. Democrats have been president for the other forty. During that time the per capita gross domestic product grew over twice as much under Democratic presidents in 1996 collars.

Singularity is Near -SIN Graph - Per-Capita GDP

From the presidencies of Harry Truman to that of George W. Bush there were nearly always more jobs created under Democratic presidents than Republican presidents.

Bush On Jobs The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

I have already posted this, but I will re post it for the benefit of anyone who did not read it previously: "the Dow is up more than 50% since Obama took office during the depths of the financial crisis. Only three other presidents elected since 1900 — Franklin Roosevelt, Dwight Eisenhower and Bill Clinton – have experienced similar market returns...

"Despite the fact that Wall Street tends to prefer Republican candidates, the stock market historically has performed better under Democratic presidents.

"Since 1900, the Dow has averaged a 7.8% annual gain under Democratic presidents, compared with a 3% annual gain under Republicans, WSJ reported earlier this year."
What an Obama Win May Mean for Stocks - MarketBeat - WSJ