Greene Republicans - a Very Vulnerable Demographic

[Seymour Flops]

The "drive-by media?" Well then it must be so.



AND uneducated? They Hell they doing voting?



I don't see how you could know that. What's your source? Believealiberal.com?



Correct.



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We don't support class-envy cause we ain't a bunch of lazy, no-skilled Mother government teat su(kers prone to jealousy of those that earn.

And...



I don't support class-envy because I'm not pro-illegal aliens and don't want to chop the naughty bits of children away? I'm NOT jealous because of those things? You say Democrat class-envy like that's a good thing but what does not being jealous have to the rule of law and not maiming children for life?

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You're making $h!t up, aren't you?

You misunderstood the English there. So, it appear you are an uneducated white, just as I described. But hard-working and America loving, so I'm glad and proud to have you on MAGA's side.

I said that they "do not support the Democrats class envy, because . . . "not that "they do not support class envy, because . . . "

 

[Marchimedes]

Trump does not represent himself as a highly educated and professional journalism outlet of the highest standards.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Pointless blather.....try reading more, simp.

You think Obamacare is bad? It is much better than the 2 or 3 health care options people had to choose from prior to Obamacare. Millions of Americans couldn't even get health care unless they were employed. Millions of Americans couldn't even get health care because of pre-existing conditions.

That was not the free market prior to Obamacare.

True, the market ceased to be free when the government started giving tax breaks to employer-provided health care but no breaks for individual purchasers of health insurance. That drove the price of treatment up such that people without good jobs could not afford it. Then the government started giving more people medicaid, thus creating a class called "the working poor" that could be almost as dependent as the welfare class.

The dreaded conservative talk radio complained mightily about that in the nineties, but liberals thought it was peachy!

 

[g5000]

It's just a matter of time until we have universal health care.

In the meantime, the Republicans are going to put on theater for the rubes, pretending to oppose it, but they already surrendered to it a long time ago.

Because they can't solve anything any more.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

True, the market ceased to be free when the government started giving tax breaks to employer-provided health care but no breaks for individual purchasers of health insurance.

More bullshit.....look up "monopoly" in the dictionary, genius.

If an American only has 2 or 3 health care options to choose from, that is a monopoly. That is not the ******* free market.

And the only people happy about monopolies are the rich folks running the monopolies.

 

[g5000]

Then the government started giving more people medicaid

For the very reasons I explained above. More and more people have been priced out of the market because of higher and higher costs for private insurance.

The Republican solution to this problem was NOTHING.

Nada. Zip. Bupkis. Zero. Naught. Scratch. Zilch.

For. Six. Decades. Now.

.

 

[g5000]

"Nobody knew health care could be so complicated!"

 

[g5000]

More bullshit.....look up "monopoly" in the dictionary, genius.

If an American only has 2 or 3 health care options to choose from, that is a monopoly. That is not the ******* free market.

And the only people happy about monopolies are the rich folks running the monopolies.

You have touched on something I have mentioned many times.

The health insurance market is rigged. It's like the days when you only had one or two cable companies to choose from in your area. That was rigged, too.

You are not allowed to call any health insurance company in the country like you can for your home, auto, or life insurance.

Even worse, most people are hostage to their employer's insurance. You have ONE choice.

Obamacare more deeply embedded this bullshit.

Totally rigged. Insurance companies have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

You have touched on something I have mentioned many times.

The market is rigged. It's like the days when you only had one or two cable companies to choose from in your area.

You are not allowed to call any health insurance company in the country like you can for you home, auto, or life insurance.

Totally rigged. Insurance companies have bribed both parties to keep it that way.

.

For some reason, these imbecile MAGA simps don't understand the difference between "crony capitalism" and "capitalism".

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

It's just a matter of time until we have universal health care.

I would hold Obama in much higher regard if he had at least pushed for a public option for the ACA....he was way too timid, way too accommodating to the Repug racists in Congress who hated him. He had 59 or 60 Democratic votes in the Senate, he could have been much bolder.

If there was a public option in the ACA, I'm convinced this Trump nightmare would not be occurring right now.

 

[Marchimedes]

You misunderstood the English there.

Apparently so. Please to enlighten us.

So, it appear

appears

You question my King's English then fu(k up the very next sentence.

Masterful.

you are an uneducated white,

Did you just call me white? You have no idea. This is King Edward Vll...

My great sumpin sumpin great Grandfather. He was a King of England.

What the fu(k is more whiterer than English nobility? Yes, I'm very white.

There was sumpin else but I'm not learned enough to remember.

just as I described.

All Hail Kreskin!

But hard-working and America loving,

so I'm glad and proud to have you on MAGA's side.

I just flagged this post and e-mailed my Dear Mother with the good news.

I said that they "do not support the Democrats class envy, because . . . "not that "they do not support class envy, because . . . "

No you didn't. This is what you posted...

But they don't support Democrat's class-envy because they are not pro-illegal immigrant and they are not woke on LGBT for kids.

So maybe The King's English is not your first language and you don't understand we are not mind readers.

I shall allow it.

 

[Marchimedes]

It's just a matter of time until we have universal health care.

I did not know we get to just post our political opinions and that counts as political debate.

Lemme try...

Lower taxes bolsters the American economy. So what now? I win, correct?

 

[Marchimedes]

You have touched on something I have mentioned many times.

The health insurance market is rigged. It's like the days when you only had one or two cable companies to choose from in your area. That was rigged, too.

You are not allowed to call any health insurance company in the country like you can for your home, auto, or life insurance.

Even worse, most people are hostage to their employer's insurance. You have ONE choice.

Obamacare more deeply embedded this bullshit.

Totally rigged. Insurance companies have bribed both parties to keep it that way..

Sounds like you people are screwed. I don't have a dog in this fight as I have VA care for life. Cause of The Army thing. My VA care has been excellent. They are on me like the skin on a fat snake. Today, for the second time I got a text reminding me of upcoming blood labs. Pretty much I just fu(kin show up when they tell me to. Then fat, sugar-Nazi nurses tell my skinny azz to watch my adult onset, hereditary diabetes type ll diet.

Nowz when you liberals scream at me about enjoying a socialist program. You always do and then I tell you idiots about the contract I signed with the military when I raised my right hand.

Pay for services rendered is not socialism.

See how I turned that innocuous beginning into "liberals su(k?"

Go ahead, type a word at me.

 

[White 6]

By "Greene" I mean Marjorie Taylor Greene and many of her consituents and like minded people outside her district.

Here is what Greene said about healthcare:

In a long post on X, Greene, the far-right MAGA firebrand, made it clear she was not in Congress when the 2010 law passed.

“Let’s just say as nicely as possible, I’m not a fan,” she wrote. “But I’m going to go against everyone on this issue because when the tax credits expire this year my own adult children’s insurance premiums for 2026 are going to DOUBLE, along with all the wonderful families and hard-working people in my district.”

“No I’m not towing the party line on this, or playing loyalty games. I’m a Republican and won’t vote for illegals to have any tax payer funded healthcare or benefits. I’m AMERICA ONLY!!!” Greene added.

Greene represents what the media called 'uneducated whites' in the aftermath of the 2016 election. They are not wealthy, and do not believe that the wealthy are vital to the economy. But they don't support Democrat's class-envy because they are not pro-illegal immigrant and they are not woke on LGBT for kids.

I don't believe that MTG's kids premiums are going to double if the COVID-era subsidies expire. Those subsidies go directly to the insurance companies, they are not deducted form premium prices. The subsidies are given with no strings requiring them to keep premiums down to a set level.

As they always have, the health insurance providers will charge what the market will bear. I've seen no evidence that the market will suddenly be able to bear doubled premiums after January 1st.

But MTG believes it and so do her kids. So do many, many relatively low-education low-skilled Trump voters. They are sadly no less gullible than Democrats and "not Democrats," so they may swallow this line.

I'm not talking about the right or wrong of things. I'm saying that as a political strategy, MAGA politicians with dreams of grandeur for 2028 should not ignore these voters. Nor should the RNC if it wants to avoid losing seats in 2026.

The states with the highest percentages of people on insurance under the Affordable Care Act and Republican Red states. Can the really fk over their own voters, purposely, and retain office? I doubt it. If they do, during this shut down, I doubt they will have a majority in either house of Congress, after 2026.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The states with the highest percentages of people on insurance under the Affordable Care Act and Republican Red states. Can the really fk over their own voters, purposely, and retain office? I doubt it. If they do, during this shut down, I doubt they will have a majority in either house of Congress, after 2026.

So why do you think that people who benefit from Obamacare vote Republican?

If Democrats figured that out and acted on it, they'd sweep the next election.

 

[Marchimedes]

I would hold Obama in much higher regard if he had at least pushed for a public option for the ACA....

I contend that if Slowbama, the half-breed stuttering muslim got on the horn and told some left-wing pollster to do that it would be done.

But would you enjoy the results?

If Slowbama thought that would work he'd have done it.

he was way too timid, way too accommodating to the Repug racists in Congress who hated him.

Fu(k you! The biggest divide in our nation, barring abortion which has almost zero effect presently on our economy is taxes. Slowbama and yous want higher taxes, Republicans want lower taxes.

How the fu(k is that racist, Doctor?

If there was a public option in the ACA,

There's not? I hereby invent sumpin. I call it a "poll." I suggest we question random people on topics such as this and post the results.

I'm convinced this Trump nightmare would not be occurring right now.

So tell us all your train of thought that convinced you of such. Pretend you are posting at an interweb political debate forum instead of your Diary titled...

"My cats love me: Here's why..."

 

[Marchimedes]

The states with the highest percentages of people on insurance under the Affordable Care Act and Republican Red states.

are

Please to show us your source on that.

Can the really fk over their own voters,

The fu(k again with The King's English?

purposely, and retain office? I doubt it. If they do, during this shut down, I doubt they will have a majority in either house of Congress, after 2026.

So, as you say, because of this next mid-term Congress goes full bore left? Well, you did say "doubt." That was powerful.

So many questions...

 

[Marchimedes]

The states with the highest percentages of people on insurance under the Affordable Care Act and Republican Red states.

That's an answer to what question? Maybe I missed it. I'm asking.

 

[White 6]

are

Please to show us your source on that.



The fu(k again with The King's English?



So, as you say, because of this next mid-term Congress goes full bore left? Well, you did say "doubt." That was powerful.

So many questions...

Well, there is this:

Red States Drive Record Obamacare Enrollment With 21 Million Signing Up - KFF Health News

Nationally, enrollment in an Affordable Care Act plan so far for 2024 coverage increased 31% over last year. Republican-majority states like West Virginia, Louisiana, Ohio, Indiana, and Texas saw even higher percentage increases in people now covered under the law that is still a campaign issue...

kffhealthnews.org

and this:

https://www.wsj.com/health/healthcare/affordable-care-act-subsidies-charts-3ec139fa

and:

More Than 3 in 4 ACA Marketplace Enrollees Live in States Won by President Trump in 2024

As Democrats push for an extension of the ACA’s enhanced premium tax credits, new data from KFF show the extent to which states won by Trump in 2024 have come to rely on the ACA Marketplaces and the tax credits, which make health care coverage more affordable for low- and middle-income...

www.kff.org

 

[Marchimedes]

So why do you think that people who benefit from Obamacare vote Republican?

Are you the same guy that was making $h!t up before?

To answer your question: They don't. But then you said they do so, again, what's your source?

If Democrats figured that out and acted on it, they'd sweep the next election.

If...