Green New Deal

[boedicca]

 

[boedicca]

She needs to go back to bartending.

No! She's a walking talking billboard for Trump 2020. The more she outs the Prog Agenda of turning the U.S. into a Socialist-Slave State the better our chances of the Dems being defeated.

 

[Polishprince]

Moral forms of indignation should require morals.

....says the guy whose party has gone so 'bugfuck crazy' they are now demanding the right to murder children who have been born...

The GOP controls the Virginia legislature, they should impeach Gov. Northam on charges of Accessory before the Fact for Infanticide, and see if the Democrats want to get rid of him. Get the libs on the record

 

[ColonelAngus]

AOC = Another Obstreperous Communist

 

[iceberg]

“I think one way that the right does try to mischaracterize what we’re doing as though it’s like some kind of massive government takeover,’ Ocasio-Cortez said on MSNBC’s ‘MTP Daily.’ ‘Obviously it’s not that because what we’re trying to do is release the investments from the federal government to mobilize those resources across the country.”

I hope that clears things up for you.
It’s outlandish to think a socialist got elected to Congress with the intent of government takeover.....

Ocasio-Cortez: Green New Deal Not a 'Massive Government Takeover'

so she doubled down on stupid.

you're going to rebuild every building in the country.
get rid of air travel in 10 years
get rid of gas in 10 years
ensure everyone has an income whether they work for it or not

i have to now wonder how she'd define a takeover.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

She needs to go back to bartending.

No! She's a walking talking billboard for Trump 2020. The more she outs the Prog Agenda of turning the U.S. into a Socialist-Slave State the better our chances of the Dems being defeated.

You have a point!

But the downside is that every time I listen to her my IQ drops a point.

 

[boedicca]

She needs to go back to bartending.

No! She's a walking talking billboard for Trump 2020. The more she outs the Prog Agenda of turning the U.S. into a Socialist-Slave State the better our chances of the Dems being defeated.

You have a point!

But the downside is that every time I listen to her my IQ drops a point.

Think of her as intellectual homeopathy. A little of her poison everyday will make you stronger!

 

[Weatherman2020]

"Obviously it’s not that because what we’re trying to do is release the investments from the federal government to mobilize those resources across the country.”

What investments?? ...

There were to be no questions of her clarification. Because shut up.

 

[Weatherman2020]

She needs to go back to bartending.

No! She's a walking talking billboard for Trump 2020. The more she outs the Prog Agenda of turning the U.S. into a Socialist-Slave State the better our chances of the Dems being defeated.

I’m sure AOC is a Republican plant.

 

[rightwinger]

Gotta love all these RW threads about the Green New Deal

Has them in a panic

 

[easyt65]

“I think one way that the right does try to mischaracterize what we’re doing ....

'MISCHARACTERIZE'?

Cease Using Oil, Coal, Natural Gas, and Nuclear Power

Cease Using Fossil Fuels

Elimination of the internal combustion engine

Elimination of all cars / trucks / vans / SUVs / planes, trains, boats, etc....
*** Resulting in over 7 million Americans losing their jobs

Use of alternate sources providing 11% of our energy must begin accounting for 100% of our energy

Use of technology not even invented yet must be used

EVERY building in the US must be upgraded or Re-Built

Use of Trans-Continental - Over-Ocean Railways to eliminate use of airplanes

Forced Unionization of ALL GND-related jobs

$7 TRILLION in new debt for energy conversion - IF all this was possible, which it is NOT

$35 TRILLION in new debt to forcibly convert the US to Single Payer Health Care
*** An admission that if we stole every dime from the richest people in the US and if we steal every resource from the richest corporations in the US we would still NOT be able to even come close to paying for all of this....

THIS IS IN THE 'GREAT NEW DEAL' AND STATED BY AOC IN AN INTERVIEW.....

HOW THE HELL IS IT BEING MISCHARACTERIZED?

 

[danielpalos]

In ten years; a policy of tax cut economics is worse.

We've had tax cut economic before, leading to prosperity / growth...we're still here.

Proven national suicide / Socialist Collapse is better?

in right wing fantasy, you are Always right.

in the real world, we have to deal with this: U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time

fundamentals matter under Capitalism; only AOC doesn't need to explain her fundamentals.

 

[boedicca]

She needs to go back to bartending.

No! She's a walking talking billboard for Trump 2020. The more she outs the Prog Agenda of turning the U.S. into a Socialist-Slave State the better our chances of the Dems being defeated.

I’m sure AOC is a Republican plant.

I don't think the GOP is that clever. But the Green New Deal does read like it was written by a conservative as satire.

Robert Conquest's Rules of Politics #3 is rather applicable:

1. Everyone is right-wing about what he knows best (the words “right-wing”, “conservative”, and “reactionary” are all used in renditions of this law)
2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing
3. The simplest way to explain the behavior of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies

 

[easyt65]

Moral forms of indignation should require morals.

....says the guy whose party has gone so 'bugfuck crazy' they are now demanding the right to murder children who have been born...

The GOP controls the Virginia legislature, they should impeach Gov. Northam on charges of Accessory before the Fact for Infanticide, and see if the Democrats want to get rid of him. Get the libs on the record

Don't forget his sexual assaulting Lt Gov who is, as per the Dems' claims against Kavanaugh, 'GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT'...

 

[Polishprince]

Gotta love all these RW threads about the Green New Deal

Has them in a panic

The GND is a major liberal initiative, proposed by top Democrat Party politicians.

Why shouldn't it be a big point of discussion?

It will be a major issue in 2020.

 

[danielpalos]

[Q

increasing the minimum wage means Labor could help pay for it.

Capitalism will increase wages in the free market of labor. Government mandated wage only increases unemployment.

the right wing is funnier and more fantastical than AOC; free markets. Pure right wing fantasy in modern times.

Let me guess, you are what AOC would call "the unwilling"? Am I right or am I right?

So I have a plumber coming to my home later today to do some repair work. Should I pay him what the market here in my area demands for plumbing services or should I pay him what a stupid politicians (receiving campaign donations from the Plumber's Union) says I should pay him?

Capitalism has a natural rate of unemployment. I can claim I am naturally unemployed in our at-will employment States. If the minimum wage is fifteen dollars an hour and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed is the equivalent to fourteen dollars an hour. Why does the right wing have a problem with those market based metrics under our form of Capitalism?

Valid arguments Only, please.

Bullshit Moon Bat. You are confused. Capitalism creates the employment. If anybody ever told you different they lied to you.

The plumber that is coming to my home today created his own business. The only thing the government does is tax him, regulate him and make it more difficult for him to make a living. Disgusting, isn't it?

in right wing fantasy, every fallacy can be right.

in the real world, Capitalism is about Boom and Bust.

it is Socialism that automatically stabilizes those cycles.

 

[Moonglow]

"Obviously it’s not that because what we’re trying to do is release the investments from the federal government to mobilize those resources across the country.”

What investments?? ...

The US govt. does investments...

 

[danielpalos]

Moral forms of indignation should require morals.

....says the guy whose party has gone so 'bugfuck crazy' they are now demanding the right to murder children who have been born...

yes, taking hypocrites seriously about morals, is immoral.

y'all don't care about natural rights.

Bigotry is all that matters to the right wing.

 

[jc456]

Actual quote.

She's absolutely right as far as technology for ending pollution.

we know she wishes to kill everyone. she starts with babies and slowly works her way to the older folks. yep only way to end pollution. we all excrete methane gas. so all life needs to be expunged .

 

[Moonglow]

“I think one way that the right does try to mischaracterize what we’re doing ....

'MISCHARACTERIZE'?

Cease Using Oil, Coal, Natural Gas, and Nuclear Power

Cease Using Fossil Fuels

Elimination of the internal combustion engine

Elimination of all cars / trucks / vans / SUVs / planes, trains, boats, etc....
*** Resulting in over 7 million Americans losing their jobs

Use of alternate sources providing 11% of our energy must begin accounting for 100% of our energy

Use of technology not even invented yet must be used

EVERY building in the US must be upgraded or Re-Built

Use of Trans-Continental - Over-Ocean Railways to eliminate use of airplanes

Forced Unionization of ALL GND-related jobs

$7 TRILLION in new debt for energy conversion - IF all this was possible, which it is NOT

$35 TRILLION in new debt to forcibly convert the US to Single Payer Health Care
*** An admission that if we stole every dime from the richest people in the US and if we steal every resource from the richest corporations in the US we would still NOT be able to even come close to paying for all of this....

THIS IS IN THE 'GREAT NEW DEAL' AND STATED BY AOC IN AN INTERVIEW.....

HOW THE HELL IS IT BEING MISCHARACTERIZED?

There are electric and ion drive planes.