nakedemperor said:
Ok, having clarified all that, I don't necessarily understand 1. how Kerry is going to garner more int'l support 2. what 'doing more' to train Iraqis is. I also am not sure that I agree that invading Iraq was a 'diversion' from the War on terror. ALL I'm saying is that I'm not OK will the president willfully misrepresenting what John Kerry has been saying. Although I will admit he did so in a very clever and effective manner (both sides do it, its a function of being in a tight presidential election race).
Atleast this quote shows that you are one of few democrats that have some sense. Yes, how is Kerry going to go about doing many of the things he has said he will do, to make this war 'right'? I also do not think this war is a diversion from War on Terror. It is an essential part of the War on Terror. Whether democrats will agree or not, I think we know Saddam was capable of anything. Saddam did have connections with terrorism. This does not mean he had anything to do with 9/11, but it means he had the capability of supplying terrorists for future terrorist attacks against the U.S. and other countries. The world is much safter because of the fact that we went in and took out Saddam. Regardless of who you are, you have to agree with that!
The marines on the ground are fighting for a worthy cause. Saddam needed to be deposed. This is Kerry's stance.
The Marines and other military in Iraq are fighting for a worthy cause. But this is not what John Kerry gives me the impression he thinks. How can they be fighting for a worthy cause, yet it is the "wrong war, wrong time, wrong place"? How can they be fighting for a worthy cause if this is a "grand diversion"? How can they be fighting for a worthy cause if this is the "wrong war"? John Kerry said numerous times during the debate that Iraq was a mistake. But, when asked if the troops were dying because of a mistake, he answered "no". It just doesn't add up.
Bush asserts that in Kerry's opinion, the 'liberation of Iraq' is a colossal error. That's a shamefully dishonest representation of what Kerry believes, which is that the way in which the war was prosecuted was the colossal error......John Kerry believes that a war in which 90% of the casualties and 90% of the money are coming from the United States is "the wrong war". I agree. If we are able to garner more international support, it would be "the right war".
All I have heard Kerry say is what I said in my above statement, "wrong war, wrong time, wrong place", "mistake", "grand diversion", etc. Yet, he doesn't think it is a colossal error? No it is not. We have taken out one of the most evil dictators, ever! We have changed the regime! Most of Iraq is secure! The media, of course, reports on the few cities which are not secure. They report as though the Iraqis do not want us there. They, in my opinion, make it worse than it is. The truth is what I stated above. Saddam out, new regime in, training Iraqis to fight and secure for themselves, election to be held in January, etc. The people we are fighting in Iraq, are not he Iraqis, they are the terrorists who are afraid of a free, democratic country amongst them, in the Middle East.
And I don't appreciate the comments by Kerry and Edwards regarding the 90% casualties. If you take the number of troops America has in Iraq, approx., and the number of American troops that have died, approx., it ends up being somewhere around 1%. If that 1% is 90% of all of the casualties, than I am surprised. Personally I think the 90% is a bit too high, and used in a way to make it seem like America has received mass casualties, much more than we have. The truth is, less have died in this war, to this point, than have died at this point in previous wars. In fact, less have died in this war, than have died in Detroit this year.
The truth is John Kerry consistently makes comments about the war that don't add up with other comments. He claims he is going to get all of this international support, yet how? France and Germany have already said they will not join, even if Kerry is elected. If he cannot get more help, than how is he going to start bringing troops home on 6 months? Kerry/Edwards like to use the comment "more of the same", when describing a second Bush term. I see "more of the same" if Kerry is elected, as far as Iraq goes. I think Bush is the one better equiped to finish off our work in Iraq. Kerry just seems too much into trying to please everyone. I have seen no other counties express their being pleased with Kerry, as a couple, two fo the biggest ones we would like to have join, have already said, "no"!