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Mustafa
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Originally posted by walwor
None of that changes the boundaries of the parable. I'm afraid this is getting to be like a stalemated game of chess where neither of us is willing to give even the slightest bit of ground, and that is not conducive to a genuine debate of issues. I have an answer for you, and you have an answer for me. You make the following claim:
This forum is not a 'genuine debate' to see who can checkmate one another with one being the winner and the other the loser. Like all forums nothing more than the exchange of ideas although sometimes heated, is the purpose of posting.
Religion and politics are things that can never be won in a debate, as neither you nor I can prove anything to anyone. Faith and belief are not pawns on a chessboard. When you find that your points are effectively countered in any exchange, you find a debate where there is none.
Perhaps I have missed something, not having tried to find every post you have ever written, but I have seen several instances where you have started a thread trying to prove the Gospels as contradictory and written in "invisible flax" or whatever that was that you said, and now you are claiming that really you just want to be left alone. The truth is you obviously enjoy the whole debate. But I just can't continue arguing in circles with someone who doesn't see where a parable begins and ends, which is the only reason I got into this discussion. May the G-d of Israel show you all truth, and I add "in Jesus' name" because that's what I believe and how I pray.
You know you too seem to be arguing about what you believe with all your heart but no matter how many Bible quotes or verses from older versions in other languages you post, there is no proof. This is a forum to air our own perspectives and there is no way I wish to change yours nor can you change mine.
The real danger is when one or the other actually goes out to change other's beliefs in order to validate our own unproved beliefs or in your case some kind of free salvation from your sins.
If you want to use this forum as a tool to proselitize, then go to a Christian chat line where you can discuss your points of views with the choir. Otherwise you can openly discuss your ideas where you can try to disprove other persons points but don't imagine for a minute that this is a formal debate with winners and losers.