Great Idea, Let Customers Say If Executives Get Pay Raise

I can tell most of those replying to this thread didn't read the article.

All of you conservatives should know that this bill is a republican bill.

State representative Michelle Caldier is a REPUBLICAN from Gigi Harbour.

Do you now want to keep bashing this?

From the article:

GIG HARBOR, WA - Many of the largest health insurance companies in Washington are organized as nonprofit corporations, which means they are exempt from paying taxes even as they collect billions from health insurance ratepayers. And some are paying executives and corporate board members — many who work only a few hours per week — six or seven-figure salaries.

State Rep. Michelle Caldier, R-Gig Harbor, doesn't think healthcare nonprofits should be setting such high compensation in private. She's introduced a bill that would establish a public board to oversee nonprofit health insurance compensation.

Under her bill, any nonprofit insurer with a paid board of directors would have to create a board comprised of 10 customers. They would vote annually on board pay, and the pay of the top five highest paid executives. The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state.


Besides the fact it is a stupid idea that has failed with ObamaCare...

This right here makes it wrong as well...The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state

What happened to equal protection? Why treat a company different just because it is bigger?
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here...well after any Rdean post
 
I can tell most of those replying to this thread didn't read the article.

All of you conservatives should know that this bill is a republican bill.

State representative Michelle Caldier is a REPUBLICAN from Gigi Harbour.

Do you now want to keep bashing this?

From the article:

GIG HARBOR, WA - Many of the largest health insurance companies in Washington are organized as nonprofit corporations, which means they are exempt from paying taxes even as they collect billions from health insurance ratepayers. And some are paying executives and corporate board members — many who work only a few hours per week — six or seven-figure salaries.

State Rep. Michelle Caldier, R-Gig Harbor, doesn't think healthcare nonprofits should be setting such high compensation in private. She's introduced a bill that would establish a public board to oversee nonprofit health insurance compensation.

Under her bill, any nonprofit insurer with a paid board of directors would have to create a board comprised of 10 customers. They would vote annually on board pay, and the pay of the top five highest paid executives. The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state.


Besides the fact it is a stupid idea that has failed with ObamaCare...

This right here makes it wrong as well...The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state

What happened to equal protection? Why treat a company different just because it is bigger?



I don't know.

Ask the republican who wrote the bill.
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here...well after any Rdean post



Tell that to the republican who wrote the bill,
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here...well after any Rdean post



Tell that to the republican who wrote the bill,


I'd be happy too. By the way I'm not a republican
 
I can tell most of those replying to this thread didn't read the article.

All of you conservatives should know that this bill is a republican bill.

State representative Michelle Caldier is a REPUBLICAN from Gigi Harbour.

Do you now want to keep bashing this?

From the article:

GIG HARBOR, WA - Many of the largest health insurance companies in Washington are organized as nonprofit corporations, which means they are exempt from paying taxes even as they collect billions from health insurance ratepayers. And some are paying executives and corporate board members — many who work only a few hours per week — six or seven-figure salaries.

State Rep. Michelle Caldier, R-Gig Harbor, doesn't think healthcare nonprofits should be setting such high compensation in private. She's introduced a bill that would establish a public board to oversee nonprofit health insurance compensation.

Under her bill, any nonprofit insurer with a paid board of directors would have to create a board comprised of 10 customers. They would vote annually on board pay, and the pay of the top five highest paid executives. The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state.


Besides the fact it is a stupid idea that has failed with ObamaCare...

This right here makes it wrong as well...The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state

What happened to equal protection? Why treat a company different just because it is bigger?



I don't know.

Ask the republican who wrote the bill.

I do not care who wrote the bill, it is a shitty bill. That is the bottom line
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here...well after any Rdean post



Tell that to the republican who wrote the bill,


I'd be happy too. By the way I'm not a republican



Then write her a letter.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978. So I have no problem with giving credit for a good idea to anyone who has one. It doesn't matter to me what party the person is from.

This is a good idea. I hope it gets passed through the state congress and is signed into law.
 
You have never been in business for yourself, obviously. Nor run a non profit. They have no customers.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers
 
I can tell most of those replying to this thread didn't read the article.

All of you conservatives should know that this bill is a republican bill.

State representative Michelle Caldier is a REPUBLICAN from Gigi Harbour.

Do you now want to keep bashing this?

From the article:

GIG HARBOR, WA - Many of the largest health insurance companies in Washington are organized as nonprofit corporations, which means they are exempt from paying taxes even as they collect billions from health insurance ratepayers. And some are paying executives and corporate board members — many who work only a few hours per week — six or seven-figure salaries.

State Rep. Michelle Caldier, R-Gig Harbor, doesn't think healthcare nonprofits should be setting such high compensation in private. She's introduced a bill that would establish a public board to oversee nonprofit health insurance compensation.

Under her bill, any nonprofit insurer with a paid board of directors would have to create a board comprised of 10 customers. They would vote annually on board pay, and the pay of the top five highest paid executives. The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state.


Besides the fact it is a stupid idea that has failed with ObamaCare...

This right here makes it wrong as well...The law would only apply to the top five biggest healthcare nonprofits in the state

What happened to equal protection? Why treat a company different just because it is bigger?



I don't know.

Ask the republican who wrote the bill.

I do not care who wrote the bill, it is a shitty bill. That is the bottom line



I don't care who wrote the bill either. I've been a registered Independent since 1978.

I think it's a very good idea and would help to bring the cost of dental care down.
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

Possibly the dumbest thing I've read on here...well after any Rdean post



Tell that to the republican who wrote the bill,


I'd be happy too. By the way I'm not a republican



Then write her a letter.

I've been a registered Independent since 1978. So I have no problem with giving credit for a good idea to anyone who has one. It doesn't matter to me what party the person is from.

This is a good idea. I hope it gets passed through the state congress and is signed into law.

No need to write a letter it'll never get off the ground. Well maybe it is fruitloop Washington
 
You have never been in business for yourself, obviously.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers





Actually I have.

I owned my own photography business for a couple decades. I was so successful that I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

Have you ever owned a business?
 
You have never been in business for yourself, obviously.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers





Actually I have.

I owned my own photography business for a couple decades. I was so successful that I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

Have you ever owned a business?

I own my own business. I don't think CEO pay should be capped but I think companies that lay off thoudands to pay executives millions should be considered A-Holes.
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers
Anyone who believes CEOs only work 12 hours a week is ******* delusional!
 
Actually, yes. Retired earlier than you.

And if you did, you would know that to become successful you work many hours without compensation for the first few years.

So far as a not for profit, there are no customers. Only donors. Much different. The money they receive is strictly from donors.
You have never been in business for yourself, obviously.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers





Actually I have.

I owned my own photography business for a couple decades. I was so successful that I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

Have you ever owned a business?
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers


And with your first sentence you show you know little about actual business activity.....but thanks for posting....
 
You have never been in business for yourself, obviously.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers





Actually I have.

I owned my own photography business for a couple decades. I was so successful that I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

Have you ever owned a business?

I own my own business. I don't think CEO pay should be capped but I think companies that lay off thoudands to pay executives millions should be considered A-Holes.



That's not what the bill says. It says that a board of consumers would have a say in pay raises for CEOs, executives and board members.

Since those salaries are decided by the board which is packed with people who are all friends and vote to give their friends gross amounts of pay for working only 12 hours a week at most while the workers barely get a living wage working 40 hours a week. Also while customers pay high rates for their coverage while the insurance company doesn't pay very much.
 
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I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers
Anyone who believes CEOs only work 12 hours a week is ******* delusional!




I guess you didn't read the article.

Included in that compensation: a $766,943 raise for then-CEO James Dwyer and raises for Delta Dental's board of directors, who work, on average, between seven and 12 hours per week. For example, the then-board chair, Douglas Beck, got a raise from $96,732 in 2015 to $154,573 in 2016. Beck worked 11 hours on average per week for Delta Dental, according to tax filings.

I guess according to you Delta Dental is guilty of fraud for formally filing tax records stating that their CEO works anywhere from 7 to 12 hours a week.

I guess you're the one who is delusional.
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers


And with your first sentence you show you know little about actual business activity.....but thanks for posting....


You might want to tell that to the republican who wrote the bill and is trying to make it law in Washington state.

I've actually owned my own business for a couple of decades. I was so successful I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

What business do you own?
 
Being a Republican in Washington state makes you a Dem in middle America.
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers


And with your first sentence you show you know little about actual business activity.....but thanks for posting....


You might want to tell that to the republican who wrote the bill and is trying to make it law in Washington state.

I've actually owned my own business for a couple of decades. I was so successful I was able to retire financially independent at the age of 54.

What business do you own?
 
I think this is a great idea.

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

Why is it that it's Important to pay CEOs, board members and executives gross amounts of money but it's not ok to pay workers a living wage?

If it's important to pay those people such gross amounts of money to attract good people why isn't it ok to do the same for the regular workers?

Why should non profits be able to make over a billion dollars a year without the customers having any say to how that money is used? The customers are the ones who are generating that money, they should have a say in how the CEOs, board members and executives get paid.

WA Rep. Wants Health Care CEO, Board Pay Regulated By Customers

People who work at the most 12 hours a week should never earn over 1 hundred thousand dollars a year for that little amount of work.

You should definitely use that policy in every company you own.



Tell that to the state senator who wrote the bill.

I'd be happy to tell that idiot that private property is private and that he should **** off.
 

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