Government report Illegals increasingly taking "black jobs.'

[tyroneweaver]

The link in your article for the Republican House committee reports states that from Jan 2021 till 2023 there were 7 million apprehensions at the border, with 2.4 million allowed in, as mostly asylum seekers awaiting immigration court hearings.

Trump is a gosh darn LIAR to the nth degree claiming Biden let in 20 million illegals.

Sorry, the guy you support makes me sick to my stomach with all of his BIG FAT LIES he tells without even batting an eyelash. He promotes division, and hatred, thru lying with such ease, about things just like this...

And you all support it.... that's quite disheartening to see.

Trump hyperbole's. He doesn't lie. And if he does it's non harmful as compared to bydone
when he lies, hurts people

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

You mean be guilt-ridden about it

A condition you seem to have mastered

Entitlement is an unearned condition you have mastered.

 

[Care4all]

You mean put people out of business for trying to stay in business?

You people turn my stomach

I can see your side raiding all the businesses that donate to republicans

Then turning the illegals lose after shuttering the business and putting the owner in jail

I want to build the wall and upgrade E-Verify

But if you aren't willing to mass deport the illegals already here it just becomes a game of Whack-A-Mole

Jebus Mac, are you really that myopic and dense? I never thought so...but....you are really silly in that post with little thought behind it, only knee jerk, idiotic, reaction.

Aren't you suppose to punish criminals so to deter others from becoming criminals too?A

by heavily punishing the construction firm for using illegals when it first happens, deters other businesses from doing the same thing to compete. The penalty has to be greater than the savings.

Is that really so hard for you to understand? Right now the penalty for employers is equivalent to a slap on the wrist... There is nothing stopping them from breaking the law.

If that straight construction business loses a bid because a construction company with illegals to need bid him as you claim, then he should rat out the business hiring illegals....

 

[tyroneweaver]

Jebus Mac, are you really that myopic and dense? I never thought so...but....you are really silly in that post with little thought behind it, only knee jerk, idiotic, reaction.

Aren't you suppose to punish criminals so to deter others from becoming criminals too?A

by heavily punishing the construction firm for using illegals when it first happens, deters other businesses from doing the same thing to compete. The penalty has to be greater than the savings.

Is that really so hard for you to understand? Right now the penalty for employers is equivalent to a slap on the wrist... There is nothing stopping them from breaking the law.

If that straight construction business loses a bid because a construction company with illegals to need bid him as you claim, then he should rat out the business hiring illegals....

all we did was report government stats.

 

[Mac-7]

by heavily punishing the construction firm for using illegals when it first happens, deters other businesses from doing the same thing to compete. The penalty has to be greater than the savings.

It could deter some and I’m willing to meet you half way and give it a try

I already mentioned upgrading E-Verify

which you will need to catch the stolen and phony id’s

But you say nothing about building the wall and other measures required to secure the border

And nothing about mass deportations

Maybe you are avoiding the hard decisions in the hope that all the illegals will make it easy for you by deporting themselves

So in your dream scenario its going to be all about what your side wants and to hell with the rest of us

But that's not good enough

 

[eagle1462010]

if you believe that, then why dont you support laws punishing the business owners with huge penalties for breaking the law by hiring illegals? The only way to stop illegals from coming here for a better life is for our businesses not to hire them, there would be no drawing them here....imho

Please continue there. Tell us HOW YOU WOULD DO THAT.

It is already against the law to have a stolen id, and SSN. It is also against the law to falsefy a I 9 employment form.

So. Tell us

 

[eagle1462010]

Jebus Mac, are you really that myopic and dense? I never thought so...but....you are really silly in that post with little thought behind it, only knee jerk, idiotic, reaction.

Aren't you suppose to punish criminals so to deter others from becoming criminals too?A

by heavily punishing the construction firm for using illegals when it first happens, deters other businesses from doing the same thing to compete. The penalty has to be greater than the savings.

Is that really so hard for you to understand? Right now the penalty for employers is equivalent to a slap on the wrist... There is nothing stopping them from breaking the law.

If that straight construction business loses a bid because a construction company with illegals to need bid him as you claim, then he should rat out the business hiring illegals....

Yet this is not happening in a vacuum. It is happening in mass ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY.

You are simply blame shifting on business for abproblem CAUSED BY GOVT.

You want them TO BE NOBLE AND FIGHT THE SYSTEM.

LMAO. That is a path Bankruptcy.

Until they are punished for stolen ids this WILL NOT STOP.

 

[eagle1462010]

It could deter some and I’m willing to meet you half way and give it a try

I already mentioned upgrading E-Verify

which you will need to catch the stolen and phony id’s

But you say nothing about building the wall and other measures required to secure the border

And nothing about mass deportations

Maybe you are avoiding the hard decisions in the hope that all the illegals will make it easy for you by deporting themselves

So in your dream scenario its going to be all about what your side wants and to hell with the rest of us

But that's not good enough

Alabama uses it. Catches a few but most illegals have paid for good Stolen ids. E Verify doesnt catch them.

 

[Mac-7]

Alabama uses it. Catches a few but most illegals have paid for good Stolen ids. E Verify doesnt catch them.

It sure catches a lot of open border libs though

 

[eagle1462010]

It sure catches a lot of open border libs though

Hell they dont even like E Verify. We know why.

 

[Seymour Flops]

that sounds kinda "wrong" and "arrogant" do you agree? I think it doesnt really ok to think so and be like that?

Why would you say that? What specifically do you find wrong with it?

If it's the part about destined by God, what if Americans simply believed that they had evolved into the kind of people who should govern the middle part of North America from the Atlantic to the Pacific? Would that still be wrong?

Americans of European descent, and Americans not of European descent, have created a country that draws millions of migrants willing to even break the law to get here, about a quarter of a million per month, just counting illegals. Plus thousands of legal immigrants yearning to breathe free.

They are voting with their feet that the people who built the United States did a damn good job, are they not?

 

[Mortimer]

Why would you say that? What specifically do you find wrong with it?

If it's the part about destined by God, what if Americans simply believed that they had evolved into the kind of people who should govern the middle part of North America from the Atlantic to the Pacific? Would that still be wrong?

Americans of European descent, and Americans not of European descent, have created a country that draws millions of migrants willing to even break the law to get here, about a quarter of a million per month, just counting illegals. Plus thousands of legal immigrants yearning to breathe free.

They are voting with their feet that the people who built the United States did a damn good job, are they not?

Generally the mindset that "america is the greates country on earth" and it also goes along with actions, not just words or thoughts, in their general foreign policy. I did said in another thread, that i can understand it a bit, since america is like a huge empire, and it might be a legacy of the cold war, and nature of superpowers. And nearly every country on earth receives more or less immigrants even "shitholes" from "even worse shitholes", i dont think that makes america exceptional.

 

[Seymour Flops]

Generally the mindset that "america is the greates country on earth" and it also goes along with actions, not just words or thoughts, in their general foreign policy. I did said in another thread, that i can understand it a bit, since america is like a huge empire, and it might be a legacy of the cold war, and nature of superpowers. And nearly every country on earth receives more or less immigrants even "shitholes" from "even worse shitholes", i dont think that makes america exceptional.

I know of no country that gets a quarter of a million immigrants per month, and from all over the globe.

Who would you say would have been better stewards of the middle part of North America? Surely not the warlike, child-sacrificing pre-Columbian cultures?

 

[Mortimer]

I know of no country that gets a quarter of a million immigrants per month, and from all over the globe.

Who would you say would have been better stewards of the middle part of North America? Surely not the warlike, child-sacrificing pre-Columbian cultures?

Im not really minding white people in america, i dont think they should be in europe. or not there, im not racist to white people. My point is more about the american mindset and foreign policy since like 100 years. My question is about "the greatest country on earth" and attacking other countries, and subjugating them (with puppet governments and/or color revolutions etc.) That was rather my point. Im neither against amerindians nor against whites, i simply realise it as fact, that now whites historically conquered the US and live there, im not commenting on that. Or if amerindians would be better americans?

 

[Care4all]

No laws are needed of the border is secured and the filthy illegals are deported the **** out of our country!

Bologna! Laws and money, is needed. It's why you can't stop Biden by suing his actions and stopping him... it's legal the way it is written, by giving the executive free reign power with little guidance.

 

[BluesLegend]

Bologna! Laws and money, is needed. It's why you can't stop Biden by suing his actions and stopping him... it's legal the way it is written, by giving the executive free reign power with little guidance.

Translation...he destroyed me with facts

 

[Care4all]

Yet this is not happening in a vacuum. It is happening in mass ALL OVER THIS COUNTRY.

You are simply blame shifting on business for abproblem CAUSED BY GOVT.

You want them TO BE NOBLE AND FIGHT THE SYSTEM.

LMAO. That is a path Bankruptcy.

Until they are punished for stolen ids this WILL NOT STOP.

During Reagan's Amnesty proposal, Reagan's bill included heavily punishing businesses that hire illegals....that was part of his overall amnesty/immigration reform he felt was necessary to prevent us from going through this amnesty for the illegals, as we did, in the future.... Reagan saw these businesses hiring these illegals and easily giving illegals jobs, AS THE MAIN REASON for illegals to make the long haul, to our border.

Everything was A-OK, Democrats and Repubs agreed... The heavy punishment was in the Amnesty Bill,

then .......

Small Business and Chamber of Commerce began a huge lobbying campaign to drop the harsh punishment for hiring illegals,

And congress took out Reagan's punishments, and made it, at best, a slap on the wrist at the last minute before congress voted on it.

Look where we are now.... Reagan was right.

 

[Independent thinker]

Oh there's those pesky facts again.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/reports-back-up-trump-contention-that-illegal-immigrants-are-taking-black-jobs-government-report-says

It cited a National Bureau of Economic Research working paper that “suggests that a 10-percent immigrant-induced increase in the supply of a particular skill group reduced the black wage by 4.0 percent, lowered the employment rate of black men by 3.5 percentage points, and increased the incarceration rate of blacks by almost a full percentage point.”

Time for Biden to say that if you don't vote for me then you aren't really black.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Nonsense

If the business owner is a contractor who has to competitive bid on every job against othets who hire illegals then honest or not he will to

Or soon cease to be in business

So what should be done to these contractors who are hiring illegals?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Time for Biden to say that if you don't vote for me then you aren't really black.

MAWA.