Gov. Jerry Brown released budget

[Wry Catcher]

Orange County, the home of the John Birch Society. .

Wry this is not the 70's......those guys are kinda ancient history today....whenever i hear the name mentioned people under the age of 30....go.... WHO?.....

They're alive and well, now known as the neo conservatives.

 

[Trajan]

I read a blurb the other day that said that for the first time since cali has been a state, the census has not yielded another seat in the house. Something is obviously going on and I suspect the bus. environment and being in the top 3 states re; taxes, fees and regulatory code has a lot to do with it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Quote: Originally Posted by Ernie S.
"Before you thank me for my post, perhaps you should know that I think Kalifornia should go bankrupt. A court tossing out union contracts would be a great precedent in future negotiations with greedy municipal, state and federal workers."

A court tossing out clegal contracts, union or otherwise, without cause would be known as a kangaroo court.
Courts enforce the terms of legal contracts. If you, Ernie, have cause to believe union contracts are illegal please explain the basis for your judgment?

 

[Trajan]

hummmm, really? I seem to recall bond holders and pension funds etc. taking a hit when GM was re- org.ed. Some contracts are more equal than others it seems.

 

[Big Fitz]

Until the politicians deal with the state unions, the outlook for Ca. is going to be grim.
His cuts in salary are for non union state workers.

I say this knowing that it would affect me, but all public sector unions need to be broken. All of them. They are not able to negotiate in good faith with those who must pay them: The taxpayers. The government does not pay them directly, and is not held personally responsible when they negotiate in bad faith for personal gain at the expense of the citizens of the US.

 

[Wry Catcher]

hummmm, really? I seem to recall bond holders and pension funds etc. taking a hit when GM was re- org.ed. Some contracts are more equal than others it seems.

Interesting point. I suppose it depends on the language of the contract, probably that and a number of other legal points. Any attorney's out and about with an interest in contract law?

 

[mdn2000]

Jerry Brown is not cutting a thing, 12 billion dollars, that is nothing. Not even a drop in the bucket. Worst recession in history which followed the worst spending in history. Seems to me as much as housing was part of the problem housing was a nice scapegoat. Record spending before the worst recession in history. So the solution, lets just spend 85 billion dollars. A cut, if I heard 12 billion dollars worth of bloated bureaucratic waste was gone forever I would still demand they cut the tax to the lowest in the nation. Give someone the power to tax and spend and you have created a corrupt person. California has 500 billion in unpaid liabilities. Think retirement for the highest paid government workers in the world.

http://www.senatesite.com/Documents/2009/April%20SBU%20final%20draft_April%2022_.pdf

• California's projected gap is $12.4 billion or 12 percent of the budget.
• Officials in Kansas project a $568 million (9.5 percent) deficit.
• Florida's shortfall is in the $5 billion range.
• Louisiana, one of the more recent states to report budget problems, sees a $2.7
billion gap looming.
• Minnesota has a $4.8 billion deficit for the FY 2010-2011 biennium (with $2.9
billion of that amount counted in FY 2010 tabulations). Officials noted that there is
another projected deficit of $5.4 billion for the following biennium (FY 2012-
2013), so the problem is ongoing.
• Absent federal stimulus funds and other solutions, Pennsylvania expects a budget
gap of at least $2.9 billion.
• Texas, one of the few states avoiding a FY 2009 gap, expects a $3.1 billion shortfall
in FY 2011 (on top of the $3.1 billion gap in FY 2010, the first year of the biennial
budget).
• Vermont's projected gap ranges between 7 percent and 10 percent if ARRA funds
are factored in. The gap is projected to reach 16 percent in FY 2012 and 13 percent
in FY 2013

 

[Intense]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
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SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

 

[Big Fitz]

Orange County, the home of the John Birch Society. .

Wry this is not the 70's......those guys are kinda ancient history today....whenever i hear the name mentioned people under the age of 30....go.... WHO?.....

They're alive and well, now known as the neo conservatives.

The John Birch Society's birthplace and Intl headquarters is in Appleton, WI. Home of "Tailgunner" Joe McCarthy, near Ripon, WI, birthplace of the GOP.

 

[Revere]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
______________________________________________________________________
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

What bullshit. That's $2M a year, or 1/12,000 of the budget gap.

Jerry Brown wants an attaboy for this?

 

[Big Fitz]

Decreases in increases aren't cuts.

 

[Intense]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
______________________________________________________________________
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

What bullshit. That's $2M a year, or 1/12,000 of the budget gap.

Jerry Brown wants an attaboy for this?

Where did you get that impression? Thats just a single hammer blow on a big project, but at least it is in the right direction. It is also a blow to the entitlist aspect of State Employees.

 

[loosecannon]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
______________________________________________________________________
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

What bullshit. That's $2M a year, or 1/12,000 of the budget gap.

Jerry Brown wants an attaboy for this?

and for this:

His budget projects the deficit at $25.4 billion over the next 18 months.

To close it, Brown called for $12.5 billion in spending cuts, including reductions in welfare, social services, health care for the poor, community colleges and a combined $1 billion cut to the University of California and California State University systems.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Wry this is not the 70's......those guys are kinda ancient history today....whenever i hear the name mentioned people under the age of 30....go.... WHO?.....

They're alive and well, now known as the neo conservatives.

The John Birch Society's birthplace and Intl headquarters is in Appleton, WI. Home of "Tailgunner" Joe McCarthy, near Ripon, WI, birthplace of the GOP.

Mea culpa, you are correct.
Orange County, CA was the center of ultra conservative thought back in the day.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
______________________________________________________________________
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

What bullshit. That's $2M a year, or 1/12,000 of the budget gap.

Jerry Brown wants an attaboy for this?

and for this:

His budget projects the deficit at $25.4 billion over the next 18 months.

To close it, Brown called for $12.5 billion in spending cuts, including reductions in welfare, social services, health care for the poor, community colleges and a combined $1 billion cut to the University of California and California State University systems.

Excuse Revere, he is very dumb.

 

[Revere]

He's going to propose cuts guaranteed to bring out the protestors and turn those cuts back, and blame Republicans for not raising taxes to fund them.

He wants the LA Times to lick his balls about reducing 1/12,000 of the deficit in cell phones, because that's a sexy story for taxpayers, then call out Republicans for not "meeting him half way" and raising taxes.

 

[loosecannon]

Excuse Revere, he is very dumb.

that's an incredible understatement!

 

[Revere]

All protestor rich budget cuts...translation...Democrats won't make them.

 

[loosecannon]

He's going to propose cuts guaranteed to bring out the protestors and turn those cuts back, and blame Republicans for not raising taxes to fund them.

He wants the LA Times to lick his balls about reducing 1/12,000 of the deficit in cell phones, because that's a sexy story for taxpayers, then call out Republicans for not "meeting him half way" and raising taxes.

Dumbo, those taxes are taxes that have already been in force for two years and will merely be extended. CA voters are considerably smarter than the inbreds in the 45 more eastern states. We know the score and will do what it takes to balance the budget.

When your Teatards actually force the GOP to make substantial cuts to the federal budget you have a purpose in bitching about our state, sort of, almost, well not really.

But until your cadre walks their talk you are just a pissant projecting his own hypocrisy upon a stand up guy whose name just happens to be moonbeam.

 

[mdn2000]

Smart move. I knew there was a reason to like him.
______________________________________________________________________
SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Jerry Brown is hanging up his state-issued cell phone, and he's ordered half the state bureaucrats who have government-paid cell phones to do the same.

"It is difficult for me to believe that 40 percent of all state employees must be equipped with taxpayer-funded cell phones," the new governor said Tuesday. "The current number of phones out there is astounding."

Brown used his first executive order since taking office a week ago to instruct department heads to cut off 48,000 state employee cell phones by June.

That's half of the 96,000 phones issued to state bureaucrats. Brown said in a statement that dialing back the number of phones will save $20 million a year as the state works to bridge a $25.4 billion budget gap over the next 18 months.

Brown told reporters he would turn in his own phone by day's end.

The contracts each cost taxpayers an average $36 a month, or $432 a year, according to the Department of Finance. Some phones may be under long-term contracts, Brown said, but the state can hang up on others more quickly. He said he wants the state to avoid any early termination penalties that would exceed the potential savings.

"Even with a 50 percent reduction, one-fifth of all state employees will still have cell phones," he said in his statement. "That still seems like too much."

Dialing back: Calif. governor targets cell phones

If thats a 50% reduction or 48,000 state employees that lose the phone, and one-fifth of all state employees still have cell phones, that means there are at least 250,000 state employees in California. Does any other state have that many employees. Seems like Jerry Brown should of fired 54,003 state employees starting with the highest paid.

Our current recession has shown us the very maximum a government can spend in any year. Whatever the revenue was for the worst year of the recession government must decrease spending to 10% less than the lowest amount of revenue collected.

California's budget should be done every other year like Texas, I bet that alone will save a billion dollars.