Gore Refuses to take The Pledge

[maineman]

The nerve of me to post how global warming is causing record cold

What gall

the nerve of you to throw a cut and paste article in my face when I politely asked you to refrain from using other people's words to make your case.

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

 

[red states rule]

the nerve of you to throw a cut and paste article in my face when I politely asked you to refrain from using other people's words to make your case.

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

Cold snap breaks region's record lows
STEVE LYTTLE
slyttle@charlotteobserver.com

A historic cold weather outbreak shattered records this morning in Charlotte and elsewhere in the Carolinas, producing bone-chilling conditions for Easter sunrise services.

Forecasters say a slow warming trend will begin today, but we face one more night of freezing weather.

The polar air outbreak that began Thursday reached the bottom this morning, when temperatures dropped to 21 degrees at 7 a.m. at Charlotte/Douglas International Airport.

That not only broke the low-temperature record for the date, but it was the coldest for any April day in Charlotte history.

Previously, the coldest temperature ever recorded in the month of April was 24 degrees, on April 1, 1923.

The coldest temperature previously on April 8 was 30 degrees, back in 1961.

At the Greenville-Spartanburg Airport, this morning’s unofficial low of 24 degrees also was the coldest ever in April – breaking the mark of 25 degrees set on April 20, 1983.

Charlotte’s unofficial low temperature reading this morning was among the coldest in the area. Albemarle had a low of 18 degrees, but most other nearby reporting stations – including Monroe, Rock Hill and Gastonia – had lows in the middle 20s. This morning’s cold temperatures in the Carolinas are merely a part of the story.

Sleet fell Saturday afternoon in parts of Texas, including the Dallas and Austin metropolitan areas. It was the first time in 70 years that frozen precipitation fell in April in those areas.

Up to 10 inches of snow accumulated in parts of North Carolina’s mountains, including a 1.5-inch snowfall Saturday morning in Asheville – the first recorded April snowfall in that city in 20 years.

To the north, along the southeast shores of Lakes Erie and Ontario, it’s a winter wonderland.

Suburbs to the southeast of Cleveland have reported a foot of snow, and the snow belt areas of Lake, Geauga and Ashtabula counties could get another 6 to 12 inches today. Heavy snow also is falling southwest of Buffalo and near Watertown, N.Y.

The Cleveland Indians’ home opener, postponed Friday due to snow, was snowed-out again Saturday. The Indians hope to be able to play the Seattle Mariners in a doubleheader again today, but snow was falling this morning in Cleveland.

The cold air gradually is relenting, allowing for more seasonal conditions to re-assert themselves.

Forecasters expect temperatures to reach the middle 50s today, with lows tonight in Charlotte tumbling back into the middle 20s.

Highs on Monday are forecast in the upper 50s, and temperatures in the 60s finally will return Tuesday.

Conditions more like mid-April are forecast for the rest of the week.

http://charlotte.com/115/story/78479.html

 

[Paul Revere]

The nerve of me to post how global warming is causing record cold

What gall

 

[red states rule]

Ah, Paul the troll has moved to another thread

No, finger painting classes today with your Dr?

 

[maineman]

Ah, Paul the troll has moved to another thread

No, finger painting classes today with your Dr?

he is exacty on point...all you can do is cut and paste.


here: try to use your own words to respond to this:

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

 

[red states rule]

he is exacty on point...all you can do is cut and paste.


here: try to use your own words to respond to this:

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

Paul is a BIGGER asshole then you MM - that takes a lot

You seem to have a serious problem with facts

Anyone who disagrees with a lib is attacked - that is how libs operate

 

[maineman]

Paul is a BIGGER asshole then you MM - that takes a lot

You seem to have a serious problem with facts

Anyone who disagrees with a lib is attacked - that is how libs operate

did you miss this:

here: try to use your own words to respond to this:

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

 

[red states rule]

did you miss this:

here: try to use your own words to respond to this:

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

Is that why it is so damn cold during Springtime?

Your global warming hype is crashing and burning MM

Tell your gloabl warming theory to the guys shoveling out Tiger Stadium so they can play some baseball

 

[maineman]

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

Is that why it is so damn cold during Springtime?

Your global warming hype is crashing and burning MM

Tell your gloabl warming theory to the guys shoveling out Tiger Stadium so they can play some baseball

I rest my case

 

[red states rule]

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.




I rest my case

Are you going to help shovel out Tiger Stadium?

 

[maineman]

Are you going to help shovel out Tiger Stadium?

do you or do you not understand what I was saying about ocean currents and the fact that they will undoubtedly make certain areas of the planet colder because of the overall effects of global warming, or is that just too ******* complex for you to wrap you amoeba brain around?

go ahead and just admit it if you can't grasp the concept. I'll certainly understand.

 

[red states rule]

do you or do you not understand what I was saying about ocean currents and the fact that they will undoubtedly make certain areas of the planet colder because of the overall effects of global warming, or is that just too ******* complex for you to wrap you amoeba brain around?

go ahead and just admit it if you can't grasp the concept. I'll certainly understand.

You might want to give the lecture on the myth of global warming to Mother Nature - she seems to be the one ******* up your hype and bullshit about global warming

 

[maineman]

You might want to give the lecture on the myth of global warming to Mother Nature - she seems to be the one ******* up your hype and bullshit about global warming

I understand ...you really are too stupid to grasp complex processes.

 

[red states rule]

I understand ...you really are too stupid to grasp complex processes.

Translation - do not mention the weather in relation to global warming

 

[maineman]

Translation - do not mention the weather in relation to global warming

no...translation: RSR is too ******* stupid to understand that the weather on any particular day is not indicative of global warming patterns. RSR is too ******* stupid to understand that global warming induced changes in ocean currents would actually cause some parts of the non-tropic regions of the globe to get colder due to the loss of warmth brought north (and south) by ocean currents.
you really are an ignorant, illiterate moron, aren't you?

 

[red states rule]

Two major storms are impacting the country, one over the Midwest and the other is entering the country through California.

The storm over the Midwest is responsible for a swath of wet, gloppy snow from North and South Dakota to the west to Michigan to the east.

Temperatures hovering just above freezing and a high April sun angle are combing to keep most of the accumulations to grassy surfaces, while paved areas remain mostly wet.

There could be some slight accumulations on paved surfaces tonight if the temperature cools below freezing.

The southern end of this storm is bringing moderate to heavy rain and heavy thunderstorms to the Ohio Valley and South.

A tornado watch is in effect until 8 p.m. CDT for much of northern Alabama and a small part of southeastern Mississippi.

Other areas that could have severe thunderstorms through tonight include southeastern Alabama and the southern half of Georgia.

This storm moves into the Northeast Thursday with snow flying across northeastern New York and northern New England. A swath of 6 to 10 inches of heavy, wet snow is possible across that area. The weight of the snow could bring down some trees and power lines.

The West Coast storm promises to be a doozy as it crosses the country over the next 5 or 6 days.

The system is bringing valley rain and mountain snow to northern and central California today.

Tonight and Thursday the system brings valley rain and mountain snow to the Intermountain West. Some accumulations of 12 or more inches are possible above 8,000 feet.

Thursday night and Friday the storm crosses the Rockies and emerges onto the western Plains bringing snow to the front range of the Rockies and severe thunderstorms to the southern Plains, eastern Texas and the lower Mississippi Valley.

Saturday the system moves through the Midwest and Southeast and finally Sunday and Monday the storm could impact the Northeast.


http://www.weather.com/newscenter/stormwatch/?from=wxcenter_news

 

[red states rule]

did you miss this:

here: try to use your own words to respond to this:

and the nerve of you to have such an infantile understanding of global warming that you do not understand that seasonal weather patterns may very well change such that certain areas of the planet experience colder temperatures because of global warming due to changes in ocean currents.

If the gulf stream stops pumping warm tropical water from the equator to the north atlantic because of icecap melt, the average temperature of northern europe will go down.... because of global warming. I realize that concept is just too ******* complex for your infantile either/or, black/white brain.... but it IS the facts.

NYT: Fight Global Warming with Your Clothesline!
Posted by Matthew Sheffield on April 12, 2007 - 13:16.
This first-person article by Kathleen Hughes needs nothing to make its idiocy apparent. Read the whole thing and you'll really see an almost religious fervor to the words. Except, of course, instead of the thing being promoted being an actual religion, it's a political philosophy being promoted by someone who is supposedly an objective observer of politics:

As a child, I helped my mother hang laundry in our backyard in Tamaqua, Pa., a small coal mining town. My job was handing up the clothespins. When everything was dry, I helped her fold the sheets in a series of moves that resembled ballroom dancing.

The clothes and linens always smelled so fresh. Everything about the laundry was fun. My brother and I played hide-and-seek in the rows of billowing white sheets.

I remember this as I’m studying energy-saving tips from Al Gore, who says that when you have time, you should use a clothesline to dry your clothes instead of the dryer. [...]


I decide to rig a clothesline as an experiment. My mother died many years ago and the idea of hanging laundry with my own daughter, Isabel, who is 13 and always busy at the computer, is oddly appealing. I’m also hoping to use less energy and to reduce our monthly electric bills which hit the absurdly high level of $1,120 last summer.

That simple decision to hang a clothesline, however, catapults me into the laundry underground. Clotheslines are banned or restricted by many of the roughly 300,000 homeowners’ associations that set rules for some 60 million people. When I called to ask, our Rolling Hills Community Association told me that my laundry had to be completely hidden in an enclosure approved by its board of directors. [...]

There were more than 88 million dryers in the country in 2005, the latest count, according to the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers. If all Americans line-dried for just half a year, it would save 3.3% of the country’s total residential output of carbon dioxide, experts say.

“It’s a huge waste of energy to tumble dry your clothes,” said Tom Arnold, chief environmental officer of TerraPass, a San Francisco company that sells carbon offsets, which aim to reduce greenhouse gases to compensate for one’s activities. “It’s one of the simplest things to do to help with global warming.”

The laundry underground is a mixed group. It includes the frugal, people without dryers, and people from countries where hanging laundry is part of the culture. Many people hang a few delicate items. Tim Eames, a British designer who lives in Los Angeles, does not own a dryer. “The thought of getting a machine to do something as simple as drying my laundry is totally inconceivable,” he said.

http://newsbusters.org/node/11999

 

[red states rule]

I am ignoring nothing.... I do not for a minute think that global warming can be proven or disproven in a season. Why do you continue to run away from my point about ocean currents?

CNBC Anchor Challenges Sheryl Crow and Laurie David Over Global Warming Alarmism
Posted by Noel Sheppard on April 12, 2007 - 11:49.
Most people are probably not familiar with Joe Kernen, a morning anchor for the financial network CNBC. On Tuesday, he invited singer Sheryl Crow and “An Inconvenient Truth” schlockumentary producer Laurie David on to discuss their “Stop Global Warming College Tour.”

As Kernen tried to present the skeptics’ side of this debate, the ladies clearly got uncomfortable and, to say the least, a bit defensive with their interviewer.

For instance, when Kernen referenced the British documentary “The Great Global Warming Swindle,” and presented evidence from it refuting anthropogenic global warming theories, David astoundingly responded (video available here, h/t NB member Sick-n-Tired):

Well, I haven’t seen it, but I do believe in fact and science. I mean, this is, again, isn’t my opinion. And the world has complete consensus on this. And I would just question who funded the documentary, and what their agenda is. I mean, I would ask that question, really. Because we, the debate, the debate is over.

Amazing. So, she admitted she hadn’t seen the documentary, and dismissed its contents by bringing up the now-infamous “c-word,” questioning the agenda of who funded the film, and declaring the debate over. Yet, she first claimed that she was interested in “fact and science.” Obviously, that’s not the case if “the debate is over.”

Regardless, Kernen ably pushed on by reading a quote from the documentary about the United Nation’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report being “politically driven” and that skeptics’ views were “deliberately censored” even though their names were included in the report “leading some to even threaten legal action against the IPCC.” David responded:

Let me just say this, okay. There’s now more CO2 than in the last 650,000 years. Now, just basic common sense says that cannot be a good thing. And, you know, it’s extreme weather in both directions. Every single day on the news, you guys are talking about extreme weather. So, there you go. 2006 was the warmest, wait a second, 2006 was the warmest on record, and they’re saying 2007 is going to be worse. Something is happening, and we really need to start acting, we really need to put the debate behind us.

Kernen then pointed out that in the past, there have been CO2 levels “fifteen and sixteen times” as high as today “without any warming.” It appears David wasn’t aware of this.

Furthermore, using newly updated climate calculations, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration has determined that 2006 was not as warm as 1998. So much for science and fact, huh Laurie?

Kernen continued to press the issue:

Are we sure it has nothing to do with cosmic rays or sun spot activity or volcanoes? The footprint of humans for CO2 is apparently fairly small compared to volcanoes.

What was David’s response? Incredibly:

You know what? I urge you to see “An Inconvenient Truth” ’cause Al Gore answers all these questions beautifully in the movie. It’s the reason why this movie has had such a big impact. And I urge you and all of your viewers to watch it.

Amazing. No response about fact or science, Laurie? Just watch former vice president Al Gore – with absolutely no formal training on this subject whatsoever – and all of your questions will be answered? What unmitigated arrogance. Kernen then brought Crow into the discussion asking for her opinion on what we should use as fuel if not hydrocarbons. Crow answered:

I think there are lots of opportunities to explore wind power, solar power obviously. We can use coal. We’ve got to go with clean coal plants instead of these dirty coal plants. And, I guess I don’t understand the reticence that people are displaying on this subject when we’re living through what I feel like are perfect examples of what’s happening and what we can expect in the future. And, I think there’s a certain amount of arrogance with that. Obviously there’s a lot of fear there, and lots of misinformation. And, I think the longer we drag our feet, and we’ve got scientists all over the world who are saying the window is about ten years, and these are conservative people, that the time is now to start acting. And we can certainly wait until the outcome is on our doorstep and its affecting us in our daily life. And you’re talking about disease. We don’t even know disease yet. We’re talking about malaria entering into Texas. We just heard the governor of Arlington talking about this. Talking about what’s going to happen in health just in this country. And talking about the Andes not having ice on the mountains. And that is the water source to all the people in Peru. This is dire, and it’s happening. And, to sit back and think that this is not happening, and we’re just going to wait until we really see the outcomes is a dangerous, dangerous way to look at this.

Amazing. So, we should listen to the mayor of Arlington, Texas, about the future of the planet more than scientists from our finest learning institutions that, despite absurd claims of a non-existent consensus, are indeed skeptical about all this? Extraordinary. Yet, here was Crow’s marvelous conclusion: “When you’re talking about climate, when you’re talking about the organism we live on, when it starts becoming sick, we’re going to suffer the outcome of that.”

Amazing. The earth is an “organism” that’s “becoming sick?” I yearn for the facts and science that David spoke of at the beginning of the interview, don’t you? However, in reality, we learned what the real fact is, as David concluded the interview thusly:

And by the way, it’s going to become a top-tier voting issue for both parties. You’re going to see candidates from both parties take on global warming in a big way.

Frankly, this was the only thing that either Crow or David said that had any validity or basis in truth, and clearly demonstrated what this is all about – politics. Period. Everything else is a thinly veiled lie.

For those interested, here was what Crow had to say about this interview at her blog (emphasis added):

After a short night’s sleep on the bus, Laurie and I got up early to do CNBC. We were interviewed live, via earpiece, by a militant sceptic who’s [sic] sole objective seemed to be to disprove us and the theory of global warming at every turn.

Now, I’m not exactly sure what planet this guy is living on (or what planet he thinks he’s living on, perhaps one that is not suffering the extreme weather patterns that planet earth is experiencing) but to argue that global warming does not exist and that the IPCC reports are a political maneuver, is irresponsible and overtly unethical…and at 7:30 in the morning, just plain irritating. Laurie David may be a great mom, a fun girlfriend and busmate, and absolutely adorable but let me tell you, when it comes to the subject of global warming, you better step back because she is not going to go down without a fight.

How delicious. Of course, here’s the really inconvenient truth that Crow and David will likely also blow off as they ignore all opinions different from their own. CNBC did a poll after the interview, and published the results at its website (emphasis added): “About 80% of viewer responses sided with Kernen, many referencing the indignation that Crow and David expressed at having to answer questions about the global warming debate.”

I bet all these viewers are funded by oil companies, don’t you?
http://newsbusters.org/node/11995

 

[maineman]

when will you ever learn to use your own words and actually carry on a conversation instead of cutting and pasting other people's words exclusively?

Or do I just need to accept the fact that you never will and put you on ignore?

I really come to this site to debate with people.... not read editorials. If you can only provide me with editorials and no independent thought, I really will have to end our little "relationship" and try to find others on here or elsewhere who are willing to actually engage their own brains and put their own thoughts down on the screen and actually communicate with me.

I am sorry RSR.... no hard feelings.

 

[red states rule]

when will you ever learn to use your own words and actually carry on a conversation instead of cutting and pasting other people's words exclusively?

Or do I just need to accept the fact that you never will and put you on ignore?

I really come to this site to debate with people.... not read editorials. If you can only provide me with editorials and no independent thought, I really will have to end our little "relationship" and try to find others on here or elsewhere who are willing to actually engage their own brains and put their own thoughts down on the screen and actually communicate with me.

I am sorry RSR.... no hard feelings.

Translation - stop with all the evidence global warming is a hoax, carbon offests do nothing but make liberals feel better, and how Al Gore is buying them from his own company