GOP view of economy disconnected from reality

[Harpy Eagle]

Pointing out that you are factually incorrect isn't whining.

I would say 'nice try' but it really wasn't.

what have I posted in this thread that was factually incorrect?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

still wonder why i call you an arrogant ass?

Nope, I never wondered at all, I did not even disagree with you.

....many die hard republicans think like that.....

and the Repubs tell me many die hard Dems think that way.

Two sides, one coin.

 

[citygator]

It's not my fault you posted a chart that disproved your own claim, moron.

Can you not read a chart? You are better off in 2023 than you were in 2019 and way better than 2018 and 2017. If you aren’t you are an outlier and need to look for a new job.

 

[martybegan]

And it's full of lies; though perhaps it is redundant for me to say that about a PMSNBC opinion piece.

Anyone who is working at an honest job, trying to make a living, and finding it increasingly difficult to fit his budget into his income, knows very well that every claim made in that piece is false.

As alluded to in the Orwell quote in my previous post, the modern left wrong is very big, these days, on demanding that we accept as truth, claims which we can clearly tell by direct experience and knowledge to be outrageously false. Whether it is demanding that we believe that a man can be a woman, that it is acceptable to brainwash children into fucked-up sexual perversions, or that the economy is doing great even though everyone is experiencing greatly-reduced buying power; modern LIbEralism is built on a foundation of lies and bullshit.

And by the way…

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One big indicator is that the NYC mayor is facing a huge budget deficit, but even he isn't trying to raise taxes because he knows people are already approaching their limits.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Republicans have never been more disconnected from the performance of an economy.

Democrats must have received the same memo.

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[Fueri]

what have I posted in this thread that was factually incorrect?

You are attempting to present a segment of the workforce instead of real household income, which was clearly shown by Census data to be falling, and is an obviously better aggregate picture of where households stand, while at the same time pointing at Republicans for being disconnected from reality.

Either intentionally misleading or obtuse.

Never a good idea to take talking points from such a clearly liberal hack as the author of this trash piece.

 

[otto105]

gator....people go to the store and pay their bills,then they decide if the economy is good....not you and joe biden....and apparently there are many that dont agree with you and biden........

So, how did the consumer do on Black Friday?

 

[otto105]

Democrats must have received the same memo.

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See Black Friday

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You are attempting to present a segment of the workforce instead of real household income, which was clearly shown by Census data to be falling, and is an obviously better aggregate picture of where households stand, while at the same time pointing at Republicans for being disconnected from reality.

Either intentionally misleading or obtuse.

Never a good idea to take talking points from such a clearly liberal hack as the author of this trash piece.

I did not present shit, are you drunk or something?

 

[Harry Dresden]

So, how did the consumer do on Black Friday?

probably lots of credit cards being used.....

 

[citygator]

Democrats must have received the same memo.

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78% of democrats do not agree with the statement that the economy is poor. Those are the same numbers we saw under trump and Obama. Pretty consistent and not colored by politics.

During the pandemic when shit was shut down the republicans answered that 77% thought everything about the economy was excellent and good. The same nearly 80% thought the economy sucked up until the Trump election and then thought it went back to sucking the day he left office. What a group of morons.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

See Black Friday

I agree. There are mixed signals out there, however, Americans have a tendency to live beyond their means and especially when it comes to Christmas, they will spend money they don't have and go into debt to pay for it.

 

[Fueri]

I did not present shit, are you drunk or something?

You presented a chart showing income of full time workers.

Alzheimers as well. You should see a doctor.

 

[citygator]

probably lots of credit cards being used.....

Credit card debt as a percent of disposable income is still at all time lows.

 

[Harry Dresden]

78% of democrats do not agree with the statement that the economy is poor. Those are the same numbers we saw under trump and Obama. Pretty consistent and not colored by politics.

During the pandemic when shit was shut down the republicans answered that 77% thought everything about the economy was just fine.. it was excellent and good. The same nearly 80% thought the economy sucked up until the Trump election and then thought it went back to sucking the day he left office. What a group of morons.

a poster in another thread just put up a "poll" that says that 70% of all Americans polled think the economy kinda sucks....77%?.....yea right....

 

[citygator]

You presented a chart showing income of full time workers.

Alzheimers as well. You should see a doctor.

You are so old you are confusing someone who is called golfing gator with another post called citygator. They dont look remotely the same. The avatars aren’t even close as one is a cityscape and the other is Indiana Jones.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Credit card debt as a percent of disposable income is still at all time lows.

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there is a trillion dollars in CCcard debt.... credit card debt in America has increased by $45 billion from Q1 of 2023. That represents a 4.6% increase in a single quarter, with cardholders shouldering thirteen-figure debt at $1.03 trillion for the first time.....

How much credit card debt does the average American hold in 2023?

With inflation on the rise, Americans are relying more and more on credit to make ends meet. See where you line up in this overview of the average credit card debt nationwide.

fortune.com

 

[citygator]

a poster in another thread just put up a "poll" that says that 70% of all Americans polled think the economy kinda sucks....77%?.....yea right....

That’s not what it says. 77%of republicans say the economy is poor like lemming losers. 25% of democrats say it is poor which reflects a normal level of people dissatisfied with their economic situation from Obama, through Trump and now into Biden. It’s the republican crazies that said the covid shut down economy was great (80% of those dumb fuckers) and now those same 80% say the economy sucks. They are morons.

here is the survey the article was written about: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive...es-siena-battlegrounds-registered-voters.html

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You presented a chart showing income of full time workers.

Alzheimers as well. You should see a doctor.

no, that was CityGator, not me.

you need to lay off the sauce this early in the morning

 

[Harry Dresden]

I agree. There are mixed signals out there, however, Americans have a tendency to live beyond their means and especially when it comes to Christmas, they will spend money they don't have and go into debt to pay for it.

thats right......

How much credit card debt does the average American hold in 2023?

With inflation on the rise, Americans are relying more and more on credit to make ends meet. See where you line up in this overview of the average credit card debt nationwide.

fortune.com