GOP To FAA: Drop Dead

[MaggieMae]

The left arbitrarily changed the rules. The house bill funding the FAA has been in the senate for weeks.

Whos holding it up again?

Ohhh, the US is just supposed to keep on bending over and spreading it's cheeks to a bunch of job destructionalist and deficit creating fanatics who refuse to compromise? Who in the hell do they think they are, God? Main Street America is getting pretty sick of that childish behavior as every poll shows. I believe that those poll's opinions will carry over in November, 2012.
There are two chambers in Congress, not just one. One came up with the legislation, the other chamber's job is to approve or disapprove of the legislation. Who held up the legislation in the Senate? It was those who refuse to compromise,,again.

What is with the left's continual cry for compromise? Cut less please, is still not helping our credit rating without twice what is proposed. Agreeing to vote on a balanced budget amendment you plan on rejecting is not compromise, but a forgone conclusion. Raising taxes might have been acceptable, but the Democrats didn't rush in and suggest it go exclusively to payoff the debt now did they? For a bunch of partisans who didn't bring forth a plan and have rejected proposals for six months they have no room to grouse.

I see people are still claiming the Democrats put forth no plan. That is an outright lie.

 

[peach174]

GOP To FAA: Drop Dead


The Republican House went on vacation without reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration, furloughing 4000 federal workers and stranding tens of thousands of workers who can’t continue already-started construction projects. They are holding reauthorization hostage to provisions that would weaken workers’ collective bargaining rights. This is going to cost $1.2 billion in lost passenger tax revenue. Even Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is blasting the GOP’s negligence.

“We’re getting ready to leave for a month. We should not shut down the FAA because of a rider put on the extension of the FAA legislation that has not been negotiated,” Hutchison said.


“It is not honorable for the House to send an extraneous amendment” on a funding extension, she said.

This is an outrage. Ironically, those same assholes who refuse to fund the FAA because they don't like the subsidies going to small commuter airlines, also rejected removal of subsidies for the Fat Cats private jet fleets.

They are a fucking joke, and this will NOT be lost on the public. (Read: Voters.)

An estimated 70,000 construction jobs are now lost due to teabagger radicals.

The House did it's job and passed the bill.
It's the Dems who didn't pass it in the Senate.

 

[whitehall]

The planes are running. The passengers are still getting where they need to be. Should we shed a tear because we no longer have to pay the salaries of 74,000 federal employees? Why not do the same thing to the Dept Ed.or the EPA?

 

[WillowTree]

What part of "We're going to change the way Washington does business" don't you understand people???

 

[Full-Auto]

First of all I was wrong about the cuts the GOP wanted to make, it was for 16.5 million and already $200 million has been lost. By the time Congress gets back to work the cost of this stand off will be $1.5 billion. That's the math.
Now the unionizing thing. The unions want airline and railroad employees to conform to the voting procedures that everyone else uses and a format approved last year by the National Mediation Board. They want all the votes that were cast to count but not to count votes that weren't cast (the GOP wants the votes not casted to count as a "no").
My opinion, well it depends on the interruption of democratic process. I haven't heard of a democratic process where someone who decides not to vote has their vote still count. But I also don't think anyone should be forced to join a union. So it's more or less an issue of Semitics.

First, The GOP want the rules left as they were. So democrats decided the issue of unionizing federals employees was more important then revenue.

Its that simple.

And in the meantime, because of some ideological anti-union bullshit, yet another crisis emerges that affects real people in real time right now. When will this current batch of Republicans start doing something for the people, for the country, instead of doing damage just for another opportunity to grandstand about how great they are now that they've stood their ground against Obama and the Democrats?

And by the way, folks, for the past month, literally NOTHING has been taken up in either chamber because of the debt crisis issue and all the phony horseshit accompanying that. That meant around 525 elected officials were standing around picking their noses. Once that issue was resolved (another joke), the House could have just passed the goddamned FAA extension without all the political posturing (again) and avoided this crisis.

The bills in the senate.

What excuse are you using?

 

[MaggieMae]

This is the real story.

FAA braces for partial shutdown

By Pete Kasperowicz - 07/22/11 01:02 PM ET

The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) is expected to furlough about 4,000 of its employees on Saturday, as the Senate on Friday failed to approve a controversial House-passed extension of taxes that help fund the FAA.

Those taxes expire at midnight Friday, and FAA Administrator Randy Babbitt has already warned that without an extension, furloughs would start Saturday.

"We are going to be forced to furlough valuable FAA employees unless this situation is resolved quickly," Babbitt said earlier in the week. "These employees do everything from getting money out the door for airport construction projects to airport safety planning and NextGen research."

Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood has stressed that essential personnel related to airport and air safety would not be cut. "I want to reassure the flying public that, during this period, safety will not be compromised," he said.

This week, Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation Committee Chairman Jay Rockefeller (D-W.Va.) said the partial shutdown would halt all activities funded out of four accounts. This includes a $3.5 billion fund for infrastructure projects that he said supports 150,000 jobs per year.

Rockefeller also said the FAA estimates it could operate air traffic and support services through mid-August, but said operating this way would likely require the FAA to reduce services to smaller regions so it can focus on "primary traffic."

Despite LaHood's statement, Rockefeller added that operating this way can quickly have safety implications, and also slows technology upgrades.

The House on Wednesday approved an extension of FAA taxes until Sept. 16, but that extension included language that would prohibit federal subsidies from going to three small airports in Montana, Nevada and New Mexico because tickets there are subsidized at more than $1,000 per ticket.

The House extension includes language eliminating subsidies to 10 small airports because they are within 90 miles of a medium or large airport. However, this language is also in a Senate-passed bill.

As a result, House Republicans argued Wednesday that the failure of the Senate to take up the House bill by Friday would mean a partial FAA shutdown would be the fault of Democrats who are protesting the addition of language that affects just three small airports.

"It will be the responsibility of the other body who does not take this up and pass it," House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee Chairman John Mica (R-Fla.) said. "They will be furloughing people and putting people out of jobs."

Mica said Friday that it is "unbelievable" that the Senate left Washington without extending FAA taxes. "In light of the nation’s pending financial disaster and soaring deficits, they couldn't find a way to cut even a few million dollars by accepting this minor request to reduce outlandish subsidies," he said.

LINK

FAA braces for partial shutdown - The Hill's Floor Action

Yes, the removal of subsidies was in the DRAFT Senate bill, but that rider was not approved by the Senate. THAT is the problem.

 

[IndependntLogic]

GOP To FAA: Drop Dead


The Republican House went on vacation without reauthorizing the Federal Aviation Administration, furloughing 4000 federal workers and stranding tens of thousands of workers who can’t continue already-started construction projects. They are holding reauthorization hostage to provisions that would weaken workers’ collective bargaining rights. This is going to cost $1.2 billion in lost passenger tax revenue. Even Republican Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison is blasting the GOP’s negligence.

“We’re getting ready to leave for a month. We should not shut down the FAA because of a rider put on the extension of the FAA legislation that has not been negotiated,” Hutchison said.


“It is not honorable for the House to send an extraneous amendment” on a funding extension, she said.

Orin Hatch is on CNN squirming like hell right now. Rockafeller and Repub Kay Bailey Hustchison (whom I adore, being a former Texan) presented a compromise yesterday that would have saved us a Billion bucks - Orin Hatch blocked it.
His position: "If only they had agreed with me on everything, we wouldn't be in this mess!"

 

[MaggieMae]

Democrats to FAA: Forcing you to have a union and maintaining it are more important to us then your jobs.

FAA shutdown to continue as Congress leaves *| ajc.com

Sen. Jay Rockefeller, D-W.Va., chairman of the Senate committee that oversees the FAA, held out the possibility that if the Senate were able to pass a bill acceptable to Democrats, it could still be approved by the House using obscure parliamentary procedures, and sent to the White House.

But his House counterpart, Rep. John Mica, R-Fla., ruled out that possibility. The only way left to end the shutdown is for the Senate to agree to a previously passed House bill containing $16.5 million cuts in air service subsidies to 13 rural communities that some Democrats — particularly Rockefeller — find objectionable.

Sorry, but the union thing is NOT what held it up. It was once again Republicans like Mica digging in on "principle" at the expense of 75,000 jobs and a loss of over a billion in tax revenue. Nice going, asshole.

 

[J.E.D]

i would think that it takes two to stalemate.

fail

Of course you would see it that way.

It takes one side to hold the other side hostage. All the GOP has to do is give up their fight against airline employees unionizing. I mean, they're all about jobs, right? At least, that's the sham that they sold voters on in 2010. I guess the joke's on the voters.

 

[WillowTree]

Bernie Goldber said.. " dimocrats are like birds on a telephone wire, if one says "hostage" they all say "hostage."

 

[J.E.D]

The planes are running. The passengers are still getting where they need to be. Should we shed a tear because we no longer have to pay the salaries of 74,000 federal employees? Why not do the same thing to the Dept Ed.or the EPA?

It's not 74,000 fed jobs. Please pay attention. Most of those jobs are construction workers. PRIVATE construction workers beinf laid off because infrastructure projects at airports around the country have come to a halt thanks to the shutdown. But hey, fuck them, right?

 

[WillowTree]

i would think that it takes two to stalemate.

fail

Of course you would see it that way.

It takes one side to hold the other side hostage. All the GOP has to do is give up their fight against airline employees unionizing. I mean, they're all about jobs, right? At least, that's the sham that they sold voters on in 2010. I guess the joke's on the voters.

truths and half truths are what liars are all about. The GOP is against employees being FORCED to join unions. Thanks for playing.

 

[J.E.D]

What part of "We're going to change the way Washington does business" don't you understand people???

Laying off thousands is the change you're bringing? No, thanks. You can keep that change.

 

[MaggieMae]

LOL Pure BS

We have spent and spent and spent on infrastructure.

Where? When?

Docudharma:: Infrastructure Report Card -- and the Crumbling of America

Revue the budget of this admin and the last. Add in state spending and the argument becomes extremely weak.

Are we getting our bang for the buck? That answer is a simple NO. Ill try to look up some figures for you when I get a chance. I can tell you a few stories of completely wasted man hours and dollars just from my state alone.

What's that got to do with crumbling infrastructure, which has been either underfunded or totally ignored for at least 60 years? This country needs to start BUILDING THINGS again, and starting with fixing our infrastructure, which translates into more jobs than we could ever wish for. It's a nofucking brainer. Who will the private sector blame when eventually trucks can't move through major thoroughfares when roads collapse under the stress of frameworks constructed in the 1930's? Or when entire sewer systems currently rotting beneath hub cities and towns bring business operations to a standstill because of contaminated water, flooded streets? Will they start screaming that "the government should have done something about this a long time ago"??? You betcha.

 

[WillowTree]

What part of "We're going to change the way Washington does business" don't you understand people???

Laying off thousands is the change you're bringing? No, thanks. You can keep that change.

Thank the dimocrat led Senate.

 

[J.E.D]

i would think that it takes two to stalemate.

fail

Of course you would see it that way.

It takes one side to hold the other side hostage. All the GOP has to do is give up their fight against airline employees unionizing. I mean, they're all about jobs, right? At least, that's the sham that they sold voters on in 2010. I guess the joke's on the voters.

truths and half truths are what liars are all about. The GOP is against employees being FORCED to join unions. Thanks for playing.

Speaking of lies. What a load of shit you just squeezed out. Nobody is trying to force anybody to join a union. Republicans want absent votes to be counted as votes against unionizing. Get it straight. Thanks for playing.

 

[MaggieMae]

The House did it's job.. the Senate did not.

Why? Because they don't bow to every fucking demand of the far right?

 

[J.E.D]

What part of "We're going to change the way Washington does business" don't you understand people???

Laying off thousands is the change you're bringing? No, thanks. You can keep that change.

Thank the dimocrat led Senate.

Yep, it's aaaall the Senate Dems fault for not just passing the House bill as is. Everybody knows that's how laws are made, right? The House passes a bill, and the Senate must pass the same exact bill.

 

[MaggieMae]

This is an outrage. Ironically, those same assholes who refuse to fund the FAA because they don't like the subsidies going to small commuter airlines, also rejected removal of subsidies for the Fat Cats private jet fleets.

They are a fucking joke, and this will NOT be lost on the public. (Read: Voters.)

An estimated 70,000 construction jobs are now lost due to teabagger radicals.

The House did it's job and passed the bill.
It's the Dems who didn't pass it in the Senate.

^Obviously the talking point of the right that will be repeated ad nauseam but which is absolutely meaningless without also acknowledging the back story. But hey, "We don't have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem" worked so well for several months, so I'm sure they'll go with those two lines. After all, there seem to be very few people who can actually piece together all the facts and arrive at the genuine truth these days.

 

[WillowTree]

The House did it's job.. the Senate did not.

Why? Because they don't bow to every fucking demand of the far right?

Hey.. the bill passed in the house. The ball is in the Senate's court. Your play.