GOP - the economy, the Middle East - it has nothing to do with us. It's Obama's!

[Sallow]

That's right, things get better after GOP rule and they had nothing to do with it, they won't even take responsibility for Boosh! or the GOP Congress...The GOP is not into taking personal responsibility, but it makes for a good ad pitch during campaigning..

History for conservatives goes like this:

Jesus came to the US and gave the founders the Constitution to establish a Christian Nation. Then the North attacked the poor south and took away their guns. Then Reagan came and kicked the asses of the commies and the unions. Everything was cool until Clinton got a blowjob. Then it really went to shit in 2009 with the election of a guy with an arab name.

The end.

that Orange Sunshine must be some pretty good stuff......

Well is it?

Let us know.

I reckon you drink deeply of the Orange Sunshine.

 

[mudwhistle]

History for conservatives goes like this:

Jesus came to the US and gave the founders the Constitution to establish a Christian Nation. Then the North attacked the poor south and took away their guns. Then Reagan came and kicked the asses of the commies and the unions. Everything was cool until Clinton got a blowjob. Then it really went to shit in 2009 with the election of a guy with an arab name.

The end.

that Orange Sunshine must be some pretty good stuff......

Well is it?

Let us know.

I reckon you drink deeply of the Orange Sunshine.

I think he meant LSD.

 

[Mad Scientist]

Obama is the 4th US President in a row to Bomb Iraq.

Obama
Bush II
Clinton (1998 Operation Desert Fox)
Bush I

 

[Sallow]

that Orange Sunshine must be some pretty good stuff......

Well is it?

Let us know.

I reckon you drink deeply of the Orange Sunshine.

I think he meant LSD.

And?

LSD is a liquid.

Generally put on paper. Commonly known as "blotter".

 

[Dot Com]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

 

[Avorysuds]

This message is hidden because rdean is on your ignore list.

 

[Machaut]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

Do you honestly believe that the current state of the Middle East is the result of any one political party's policies? Do some deep-thinking about this before answering. Are big-tent, general groups like Republicans and Democrats truly to blame for the rise of ISIS and all the other chaos going on in the area? Are all Republicans responsible for "setting the fire" in the Middle East?

 

[Harry Dresden]

History for conservatives goes like this:

Jesus came to the US and gave the founders the Constitution to establish a Christian Nation. Then the North attacked the poor south and took away their guns. Then Reagan came and kicked the asses of the commies and the unions. Everything was cool until Clinton got a blowjob. Then it really went to shit in 2009 with the election of a guy with an arab name.

The end.

that Orange Sunshine must be some pretty good stuff......

Well is it?

Let us know.

I reckon you drink deeply of the Orange Sunshine.

me and a couple of friends did it at Disneyland once....had a nice time....

 

[Harry Dresden]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

Do you honestly believe that the current state of the Middle East is the result of any one political party's policies? Do some deep-thinking about this before answering. Are big-tent, general groups like Republicans and Democrats truly to blame for the rise of ISIS and all the other chaos going on in the area? Are all Republicans responsible for "setting the fire" in the Middle East?

in order for Dottie to answer that she would have to question her party.....dont hold your breath....

 

[Dot Com]

Obama has done more to help the cause of Islamic Jihad in the Middle East than even Osama bin Laden. Under Val Jarrett's leadership, AQ now controls vast section of the ME, has modern weapons that Obama left their for them, has gold and now has state sponsorship.

ummm..... by Republican logic maybe

how was the Repub $3 TRILLION (of borrowed taxpayer $$$ & 4500 servicemen casualty ) policy of "keeping a lid on it" working Frank57 How many tours you do over there since you're so willing to keep other people's kids on endless deployments to that shithole?

why do Repub Presidents, & thier yes men in Congress, start & leave unfinished fantastically expensive wars of choice?

[MENTION=19448]CrusaderFrank[/MENTION]

 

[Sallow]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

Do you honestly believe that the current state of the Middle East is the result of any one political party's policies? Do some deep-thinking about this before answering. Are big-tent, general groups like Republicans and Democrats truly to blame for the rise of ISIS and all the other chaos going on in the area? Are all Republicans responsible for "setting the fire" in the Middle East?

We've had a rather simplistic and dangerous policy regarding the middle east, based on the fact that many countries their sit on vast oceans of oil.

Both parties share blame for that..but it's mostly been driven by big oil.

And a lack of respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

 

[mudwhistle]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

They put the thing out and Obama poured gasoline on the ashes.

Obama drops a match in the damned thing and says it's not his fault it blew up again.

 

[g4racer]

This is not a response which supports or opposes the action of President Obama. Mistakes have been made and it is not possible to undo them. It appears that errors in judgment of President Obama have caused increased tension in the ME and if examined individually will appear differently that if viewed in the context of time when we have been both friend and foe to most nations in the ME.
Our interference with governments is not limited to the ME. The most publicized account has been with Panama when the CIA took action and placed Manuel Noriega in power. The USA wanted a particular outcome on a Pan American issue and replaced the existing leader with Manuel Noriega to assure the outcome of the vote. They overlooked his association to the drug trade to secure his vote. As he obtained wealth his obedience to the desires of the USA dwindled and it was found necessary for the USA to invade Panama to remove him. I’m sure the CIA came out of this action with several contacts that could be used in the future.
We have taken the same action with country in the ME. We have been interfering with the governments in the ME on a regular bases since WW2. At various times Iraq and Iran have existed as both friend and foe. As friend when we had bought their new ruler and as foe when the nation replaced him with their own. These actions are taken for our Nation, business or both. In the ME we interfere to protect “Our Interests” which is petroleum. The advantage of having a powerful friend is the ability they hold in influencing smaller nations around them. Iran and Iraq are the two key nations which exist in the ME and are at odds because of differences id religious sects and that difference works to our advantage.
It is possible that the greed, which is a part of all of us, has eliminated the concept of good and bad or right and wrong as we have chosen “the end justifies the means”. Good has become what you want to accept as good and bad is what remains.
Since 9/11 we have carried out a War on Terror. Since we invaded Iraq with little or no justification we have been attempting to eliminate Al-Quadra and it appears we have never made any progress with that. Though reports from our intelligence agencies told us of the progress we have made it appears they did not provide correct information.
Afghanistan is a war the Taliban and it appears that history is repeating itself. The previous action ended when an agreement between the Afgan government and the Taliban was reached. The Taliban waited a few years before rejecting the agreement and things started again. The same end appears to be happening again. An Afgan – Taliban agreement.
The involvement of the USA in the ME should be considered as a part of the problem.

 

[rdean]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

They put the thing out and Obama poured gasoline on the ashes.

Obama drops a match in the damned thing and says it's not his fault it blew up again.

They never put it out. Anyone will sit quiet for a few minutes if you point a gun at them. But at some point, you have to set the gun down, even if it is to wipe your butt.

 

[rdean]

Republicans. Blaming the firefighter for not containing the fire they set

Do you honestly believe that the current state of the Middle East is the result of any one political party's policies? Do some deep-thinking about this before answering. Are big-tent, general groups like Republicans and Democrats truly to blame for the rise of ISIS and all the other chaos going on in the area? Are all Republicans responsible for "setting the fire" in the Middle East?

We've had a rather simplistic and dangerous policy regarding the middle east, based on the fact that many countries their sit on vast oceans of oil.

Both parties share blame for that..but it's mostly been driven by big oil.

And a lack of respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

Considering that the GOP is 90% white and held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court, not sure how it was the Democrats fault. Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

 

[Machaut]

Do you honestly believe that the current state of the Middle East is the result of any one political party's policies? Do some deep-thinking about this before answering. Are big-tent, general groups like Republicans and Democrats truly to blame for the rise of ISIS and all the other chaos going on in the area? Are all Republicans responsible for "setting the fire" in the Middle East?

We've had a rather simplistic and dangerous policy regarding the middle east, based on the fact that many countries their sit on vast oceans of oil.

Both parties share blame for that..but it's mostly been driven by big oil.

And a lack of respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

Considering that the GOP is 90% white and held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court, not sure how it was the Democrats fault. Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

I can see the point you're making with regards to the Second Gulf War, but I have trouble understanding why the bolded portion is relevant.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We've had a rather simplistic and dangerous policy regarding the middle east, based on the fact that many countries their sit on vast oceans of oil.

Both parties share blame for that..but it's mostly been driven by big oil.

And a lack of respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

Considering that the GOP is 90% white and held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court, not sure how it was the Democrats fault. Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

I can see the point you're making with regards to the Second Gulf War, but I have trouble understanding why the bolded portion is relevant.

its not....he can make the same point without mentioning that.....but there is something about skin color to a racist...

 

[Rozman]

Obama is the most successful President this country has ever had.
Obama can't accomplish anything because the Republicans obstruct him and he can't get anything
done.

This is what we see here all the time from Obama supporters on this site.

 

[blackhawk]

Let me see almost six years in Obama and the Democrats controlled all of Congress for two years they have held the White House and the Senate for the rest of this time and yet somehow nothing is ever Obama or the Democrats fault. Obama may go down in history as being the first President to never have anything be his fault.

 

[rdean]

We've had a rather simplistic and dangerous policy regarding the middle east, based on the fact that many countries their sit on vast oceans of oil.

Both parties share blame for that..but it's mostly been driven by big oil.

And a lack of respect for the sovereignty of other nations.

Considering that the GOP is 90% white and held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court, not sure how it was the Democrats fault. Clinton didn't invade Iraq. Bush did.

I can see the point you're making with regards to the Second Gulf War, but I have trouble understanding why the bolded portion is relevant.

It's easy. The GOP is scared of the rest of America. Their leaders lead them to do things we know are destructive to the country and they still follow.

Only right wing white Republicans would cheer, "Obama wants everyone to have an education, what a snob" and "Obama wants more teachers, police and firefighters. The people have spoken. It's time to cut back".

The whites in Kentucky hating Obamacare and loving "Kynect". They say the country should have passed "Kynect" for the entire country. Only "Kynect" is Obamacare.

The Democratic Party is black, white, brown and Asian. Sure, there are 60% white, but those whites include gays, college professors, scientists and all the whites Republicans don't want. With such a diverse group, it's very difficult to lead them to do something that is against their best interests. Not so with the GOP and we all know it. Certainly the leaders of the GOP know it. It's why they lead their base by scaring them. I can provide at least a hundred examples. Starting with "Obama - Kenyan/communist/fascist/socialist/more "ists" than it's possible to be.

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