GOP runs Kansas into ground, another red welfare state.

[hipeter924]

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

Swish, you didn't even understand the question. Skylar did, that's why he ran away and hid

The answer is that nearly every US President has been in the pocket of a corporation or major lobby group, and these days it is impossible to be elected President without the seal of approval of the major corporations and lobby groups.

That's why the moment Obama became President, he watered down his messages and wouldn't live up to promises, whether over human rights, economics, or foreign policy.

 

[toxicmedia]

"So you are saying......". Rarely do people characterize what I think accurately in sentences that start that way

Um...now read this back to yourself...

That little period after the quote marks, along with the capitalized "R", make it two sentences.

What don't you understand?

 

[toxicmedia]

If you're really the "thinker" you claim to be

The very next post!

I never said that, retard

So you claim to NOT be a thinker, and call me retarded.

What's wrong with you?

 

[rightwinger]

More importantly, allowing more wealth to flow into the hands of the wealthy does not guarantee they will invest it into the local state economy....more likely in our globalized world they will find some foreign country to make money in and they'll invest their new found wealth into Asia or something. The state probably will never see the money they lose from those tax cuts for the rich.

Republicans need to stop thinking it's still the 1950's.

Yet you're wrong, who saw that coming? Anyway, you are a clown

Well that's a rather weak comeback.....no, I'm right. Your turn.

You could read my other posts too, dim wit

You could actually say a few words to debate my point - tax cuts do not guarantee wealthy people will invest their money into the state economy.

Of course it doesn't.

These stupid conservatives have never taken an economics course nor have they paid any attention to the reality of their extremely irresponsible economic policies.

No business is going to hire someone to just stand around all day doing nothing. The only reason to hire more people is because your business has more work to do than the existing staff can do in a normal work week.

If that's happening that business is having more sales. If that business is having more sales it's making more money and the last thing that business needs is a tax cut.

No business is going to hire someone without there being a need for it no matter how many tax cuts the business owner gets.

That business owner will not invest that money back into the business. As we've seen over and over again, that business owner is going to put that tax cut in their pocket or park it off shore.

Tax cuts for the rich and big business never create jobs. All it does is deny much needed tax revenue to the state.

Exactly

If you are paying someone $7.25 an hour to sweep floors, a tax cut is not an incentive to hire two guys to sweep your floors
You staff at the level of workload and market demand. Unless that workload or demand increases, you will not increase the number of your employees

 

[toxicmedia]

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

Swish, you didn't even understand the question. Skylar did, that's why he ran away and hid

Your question was "does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?"

I answered that question with "neither" then elaborated.

What's wrong with you?

 

[toxicmedia]

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

Why is it every time you speak, Nancy Pelosi's lips move?

Because you've been programmed to believe anyone that doesn't hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what the Republicans want, is a liberal

 

[BluesLegend]

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

Swish, you didn't even understand the question. Skylar did, that's why he ran away and hid

The answer is that nearly every US President has been in the pocket of a corporation or major lobby group, and these days it is impossible to be elected President without the seal of approval of the major corporations and lobby groups.

That's why the moment Obama became President, he watered down his messages and wouldn't live up to promises, whether over human rights, economics, or foreign policy.

You better include the financial base of the Democratic party public and private sector unions who are heavily invested in these very corporations.

 

[BluesLegend]

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

Why is it every time you speak, Nancy Pelosi's lips move?

Because you've been programmed to believe anyone that doesn't hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what the Republicans want, is a liberal

Here's your last 1,500 posts... "you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed"..."you've been programmed"

 

[toxicmedia]

What do you expect, I learned to hate and distrust Democrats from Democrats. They lie and back stab and are conniving scheming slimes. I will not partner with them on anything, period. Why? Because you cannot compromise with them, they negotiate in bad faith, they are false, they sign a deal with every intention of screwing you over first chance they get. So forget it, we are done with them.

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?

You're not a politician, and I don't care who you think "you work with"

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

 

[toxicmedia]

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

Why is it every time you speak, Nancy Pelosi's lips move?

Because you've been programmed to believe anyone that doesn't hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what the Republicans want, is a liberal

Here's your last 1,500 posts... "you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed""you've been programmed"..."you've been programmed"

Good, let's put all that behind us.

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

 

[auditor0007]

Kansas may furlough 7,000 state workers as tax-starved coffers run dry

Red states, just say thanks to us blue staters who float you through the hard times.

You're welcome.

More than 7,000 state employees in Kansas would be furloughed on Monday if state lawmakers cannot agree on a new annual budget by midnight on Saturday, state officials said on Friday.

The Kansas House and Senate are trying to make up an estimated $400 million revenue shortfall in the wake of tax cuts engineered by Republican Governor Sam Brownback in recent years.

Republicans can't do math.

Maybe not, but Republicans know more about math than Democrats do about economics

That is a proven fallacy. Whenever Republicans are in control, they fuck the economy up, leaving it for a Dems to fix. The only exception in my lifetime was Reagan, but as I have said many times, Reagan would be thrown out of the party based on today's conservative beliefs. Reagan was a pragmatist first and an ideologue second. Today's Republicans are just ideologues.

Come again? All I hear is gurgling kool-aid

John Kasich probably has the best record as a Republican Governor and he is well liked in the state of Ohio, but the fact is that he hasn't really done anything credible other than transfer the tax burden from the state to local government. His biggest moves have been to cut taxes slightly, and to drastically cut school spending. That was his answer to balance the state budget, cut school funding. Now every school district in the state is being forced to increase local taxes to pay for their schools due to the lost state funding. For wealthier communities such as the one I live in, this is not a problem as we have passed all but one school levy over the past few years. Unfortunately, residents of some districts just cannot afford those tax increases, so the poorer school districts are being forced to cut all kinds of programs. This is great if you believe that poorer people and kids form poorer communities should receive an inferior education to those from more well off families.

The whole thing with conservatives that is wrong is that their argument is always that liberals want to increase spending and increase taxes. For the most part that is not true. Liberals just do not want to see drastic cuts to spending when it will negatively affect current services that tend to benefit everyone.

 

[toxicmedia]

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

Of course they are. Do you think that the 'Party of Personal Responsibility' actually takes responsibility? Of course not. Its always someone else's fault. In fact, the folks LEAST responsible a republican lead state government....are republicans.

Good point. BTW, does Obama own the economy now or is it still W's fault?

Neither...it's the fault of the American middle class, which is growing to be obsolete in the global employment marketplace, and economically entitled.

The Stock Market is fine, and there is cash to be invested here, in creating jobs, which is the part of the economy that sucks...but American workers are not the best investment these days.

If politicians say that, they won't get elected, if pundits say that, nobody will subscribe to them

Swish, you didn't even understand the question. Skylar did, that's why he ran away and hid

The answer is that nearly every US President has been in the pocket of a corporation or major lobby group, and these days it is impossible to be elected President without the seal of approval of the major corporations and lobby groups.

That's why the moment Obama became President, he watered down his messages and wouldn't live up to promises, whether over human rights, economics, or foreign policy.

There is only one way to fight that.

The American middle class is suffering the most from an absence of their own participation in the process.

They need to do the boring extra work of understanding how their vote affects them, instead of allowing their toxic media du jour sell them outrage towards the party they oppose

 

[BluesLegend]

You're delusional.

And you're heaping all of your problems on them.

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?

You're not a politician, and I don't care who you think "you work with"

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Run and hide lib.

 

[toxicmedia]

So you are saying its rational for liberals to hate us but not the other way around?

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?

You're not a politician, and I don't care who you think "you work with"

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Run and hide lib.

I'm not running anywhere, my car is in the shop today, I've got plenty of time.

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

 

[toxicmedia]

By the silence from Kaz and Blues...perhaps they're pouring over that KS budget

 

[BluesLegend]

Yes, that's exactly what he's saying. He also says he isn't a liberal. And he takes his own crap seriously. You have to just laugh at him

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?

You're not a politician, and I don't care who you think "you work with"

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Run and hide lib.

I'm not running anywhere, my car is in the shop today, I've got plenty of time.

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Didn't I tell you actions have consequences? You used up all your chances to have a real discussion with your multiple "you've been programmed" nonsense hence I'm done with you.

 

[toxicmedia]

In order for the era of ever expanding government to be over, structural changes need to be made to the three major budgetary cost drivers: K-12 school finance formula, Medicaid, and the the KPERS pension system.

There ya go, the GOP/Tea Party platform.

Cut education, public sector pensions, and Medi-caid reimbursements.

Jerry Brown is doing the same thing, only not hitting education as hard

 

[toxicmedia]

you have been programmed to think is that you must hate anything Democrats do, even if it's what Republicans have been recommending, or you're a liberal

First off this "you have been programmed" bull shit is your lame ass way of avoiding actually making a counter argument. Most likely because you don't have one. Actions have consequences fool and Democrats are reaping what they have sown.

Democrats choose to be lawless corrupt assholes and I choose to hate them and refuse to work with them, on anything. Democrats cannot be trusted. The lie incessantly. They ignore our laws when it suits them. When they can't win an argument they attack the person's character, demonize, and engage in demagoguery. Why in the hell would we work with them?

You're not a politician, and I don't care who you think "you work with"

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Run and hide lib.

I'm not running anywhere, my car is in the shop today, I've got plenty of time.

Let's talk about the topic.

The KS budget.

Kansas Division of the Budget

Didn't I tell you actions have consequences? You used up all your chances to have a real discussion with your multiple "you've been programmed" nonsense hence I'm done with you.

Awe...your feelings are hurt...did I not say I'm sorry?

Sorry.

There, happy?

Did you notice how similar Sam Brownback's plan is to Jerry Brown?

 

[toxicmedia]

Why do I get the impression neither Kaz, nor Blues, wants to talk about the topic?

 

[kaz]

"So you are saying......". Rarely do people characterize what I think accurately in sentences that start that way

Um...now read this back to yourself...

That little period after the quote marks, along with the capitalized "R", make it two sentences.

What don't you understand?

Another illiterate liberal, who saw that coming?